MGTOW's advesary really isn't just women, it is unconscious and sociopaths

[Anonymous 0]

One of the things I like about MGTOW is that I identify completely with most of the more intelligent bloggers and messengers. However, I do believe that I have taken a better version of “the red pill” before I even ran across MGTOW philosophers. The difference is, although I get most of my experience from women who had no empathy towards me and were, quite frankly, cruel to me, I have noticed this behavior in men (coworkers/family/friends). The only difference is that I do not, nor never did covet my buddies vaginas.

Although the intellectual purveyors of MGTOW knowledge have names for these men, like “man-ginas” and “purple-pillers”, etc… I think blaming their behavior on the nature of women is wrong. I think men, especially in modern society, are increasingly becoming bitches too…. In other words, I don’t think it is the nature of women; I think it is the nature of HUMANS; it is just that it is more likely for a person with a vagina to have more passive/aggressive and covert power over men who let them walk all over them.

Case in point:

I consider myself a nice and intelligent guy. I grew up with a group of dudes, that were much like a wolf pack. But fate put me in male clan of bitchy jerks. It took me a couple decades of them treating me with disregard and using my friendship, until they needed a drinking buddy. Then, as soon as they find a girlfriend, or got married, they became extremely cruel bitches-with-penises. Also, when I had girlfriends or “significant other” females they would openly try to sabotage it. They would become very competitive and take great delight in trying to destroy any effort I took to educate myself or improve my lot in life…. And, needless to say, most men I have known will take great delight in screwing your girlfriend, if they got a chance, and do it to dominate you… even if you are their life long friend.

These types of stories do not let women off the hook, as in the case of an old friend nailing your wife or girlfriend, however I would never ever never ever never ever never do that to my friend. I have watched the behavior of men as well as women, and I am here to say that MOST people on the planet are full of s~~~, and will stab you in the back whether it be a job position, a few dollars, a piece of ass, or to be in first place driving down the highway….

My point is, even among MGTOW’s, you have to be careful about how much you trust, as I am sure that about 90% of MGTOW’s are bulls~~~ artists, and are simply filling their ego by playing a role in the game. In other words, especially among sociopaths, who learn to role play through life, and are often highly intelligent, people can stare you straight in the eye for years/decades and tell you they care, and then one day when the opportunity arises, they may even try to kill you…. In fact, male or female, it is often the case that the “nicer” they act, the more likely they are COMPENSATING for their real intentions and lack of character.

I think that the problem with MGTOW is that we focus on the negativity and lack of integrity in women, and not enough at the behavior of stupid, sociopathic, and egocentric males/humans….

THAT is the REAL “red pill”. Knowing that most beings on the planet are still unconscious animals with the added power of modern technology and information systems.

Men love to dominate other men and women, too. They just don’t have the power of the vagina…. In fact, this lack of passive power makes men even more dangerous than women. If you don’t believe me, commit a crime that will land you in a penitentiary, and bend over in front of the most masculine heterosexual man in the shower to pick up your soap…. See how powerful your man-gina is…. In fact, while you are their, if you are cute enough, YOU might even use your man-gina to get what you want in prison….

Of course that is an extreme example. I am just saying that, in my experience, you have not swallowed the red pill till you understand it isn’t necessarily female behavior, but human UNCONSIOUSNESS… which I will admit that the women have in spades.

Take that bitches!

[peterfaParticipant 833]

There are jerks everywhere, but I agree with you that one should be careful before gushing out facts. Accountability is important lest MGTOW becomes corrupt like Feminism.

MGTOW is at risk of supporting victim complexes and other mental disorders. Accountability will be the saving grace of this. We’ll need to hold each other accountable. Yet there is a limitation, the basic premise of MGTOW is tolerance for differences, we grant each other freedom and refuse to judge them. I see nothing wrong with pointing out intellectual dishonesty, incoherence, or lack of integrity.

I believe that all humans are deeply flawed and without proper discipline, most or all would become incredibly dangerous. Even with discipline, we have a clever and rebellious spirit that finds a way to cheat everything. All things are corrupt as all things we make. If we fail to hold each other accountable, then it will be the pain of nature who will teach us. Only the ardent foolish will hold steadfast to her lashes, or if we protect that person with a supply of drugs or lies.

All humans want to dominate. I’ve had a great deal of trouble with other men who pander to women, lie, bully, and cause all sorts of havoc. My father was a bully. My life was messed up from it all. I believe that many men will pander for the approval of women whom they’re not even interested. Take male teachers in grade school. Without even the slightest sexual interest, they’ll try to pander to the little girls. They do this by bullying around little boys. It’s not sexual, but certainly sick.

It’s not gynocentrism that creates this drive, but that it excuses the drive and uses the drive. You know have your moral rule you can use, since female approval is of all things. Only her opinion of you is what matters so do anything for that. I would say that a clever woman figured this out and established it within a feudalistic and already gynocentric culture. That triggered the whole avalanche and we’re seeing the finality of today. So, I could say that aggression is at the heart of our still barbaric culture, to destroy the lives of whomever for our sadistic pleasures, sexual or not.

I guess you could even drag that out to say that women are being manipulated and used just for the excuse to bully.

I’m not sure the fate of MGTOW. I really can’t see it either blooming or falling apart internally due to corruption. I do believe it to be vulnerable to corruption, but also it’s attitude of freedom and tolerance to protect it from that. It might be resistant since men tend to be individuals who unit rather than social clubs that stick together for safety. It’s generally safe fro Queen Bee syndrome that plagues female circles.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I see feminism as more of a labor union for our hysterical feminists. One of the reasons for a labor union is so the rank and file can say stuff through their union and not have to take the heat. But you and everybody in your bargaining unit make bank.

This is how it is with women and feminism. A lot of women don’t openly endorse feminism, but scratch the surface and you will find greater than 90% of females in the US are feminists. They support all feminist edicts or you would see them publicly denouncing what feminists say.

They don’t because they want men to have less rights. They think men are subhuman. Your mother, your sister, your wife, your daughter your co-workers all female all think men are somewhere above a lamp but below the cat.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

OK. It’s widely known that sociopathic behavior was previously more exclusive to males. And driving accidents are also something that is more likely to happen to a man because because the majority of drivers on the road are also men. That will not change as long as supply trucks and deliveries are mostly driven by men too.

However , have a look at this if you haven’t seen it already:

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Let’s remove what you personally “think” about it for a moment.

Have you ever seen a group of men – lead by a panel of five – laughing with coffee on national television endorsed by advertizers about sticking a knife up a woman’s vagina and throwing the remains the dog’s bowl?? Would ANY MEN you have ever met in your life shout out to the panel that “she deserved it” after she filed for divorce because she simply didn’t want to live with him anymore… and they all shriek with laughter about it??

That’s not “the nature of humans” . That is the nature of WOMEN – and only women.
Because for every ONE Hitler, there were 20 million good men who fought and died to defeat that son of a single mother.

That is the nature of MEN and almost exclusively MEN.

50 million abortions in the US since 1973 alone.
3500 per day. ONE BILLION WORLDWIDE.

…. and they want this to be their “right”. Not even Hitler compared to that kind of horror.

Kill a pregnant woman and you are guilty of murder on TWO counts.
But for some reason (the nature of WOMEN) they don’t think its “murder” when they do it.

That about wraps this up.

I think that the problem with MGTOW is that we focus on the negativity and lack of integrity in women, and not enough at the behavior of stupid, sociopathic, and egocentric males/humans….

And you would be gravely mistaken.

MGTOW is legit s~~~. It’s not a personal opinion, and it exists for a reason.

While you may think you have “taken a better version” of the red pill…..
There is no alternate “version”. The truth is not open for your interpretation.

We must be rigid about this , you understand.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

They think men are subhuman. Your mother, your sister, your wife, your daughter your co-workers all female all think men are somewhere above a lamp but below the cat.

The younger they are the worse this attitude is too. The hell with them all.

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Wes:

 

You just explained many of the academics I dealt with both as a graduate student and as an instructor at a certain post-secondary institution.  Let them have tenure or permanent status and they become like spoiled brats, acting like they’re immortal and invincible.

 

That type of idiotic behaviour was one reason I quit my teaching post.  My colleagues were some of the most petty, petulant, and conniving SOBs I ever met.  Many were worse than the scumbags I had to deal with while I was in industry.

 

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