MGTOW_medic on scene

[MGTOW_MedicParticipant 184]

Greetings,

I don’t think everyone here wants to hear the whole “Lemme’ start from the beginning” speech. This has been a hard road to start down, but I believe that it will be worth it. There is certainly growth in challenging your own perceptions. Of course my story will not be anything completely new, nothing none have you have never heard before.

I am a father of two that was manipulated in a relationship. I had told friends and family in the past “It just seemed like she took an exit ramp somewhere in the relationship and totally became dissatisfied with anything I did! When I made a mistake I tried my very best to fix it, and that didn’t make anything better.” The concept of the mistake had to be burned into my mind and was never forgotten. I was shocked at the dramatic difference in behavior from dating to marriage, how things only seemed to go downhill for her. I was happy being married and having someone to come home to. Even if it just meant relaxing to a tv show together.

I was expected to throw out my views and my personal values if they didn’t comform to her’s. This is especially bothersome to me as an Objectivist. *It bothers me more so now than it did then, since I am no longer blinded by her insanity.* Toward the end of the relationship she would often reference my apprehension in changing my views as us not being happy since we have nothing in common anymore. I would often tell her, in these moments, that there is nothing wrong with us being married and still having our own individualities.

This was emotional blackmail and psychological terrorism, it was certainly not what she saw it as. Cooperation. I was guilted out of studying certain philosophies, discussions, and practices merely because she was afraid of how she would look to her friends and family. This caused a serious frustration deep inside of me, like a serious discomfort deep in my gut or something to that extent. I always had to fight to make time to see my family and constantly went to parties in her home town, no complaining. She has, to this day, tried to label me a “compulsive liar” however, toward the end of the relationship my “lying” was merely knee jerk reactions to prevent getting into knock down drag out fights.

My family seemes to think that if I yield to the authority of some cognitive therapists then I will be okay to date again. I very much respect my family and appreciate what they have done for me in my life, however I am very shocked to hear them go so far as to tell me to look into Mail-Order Brides and cognitive therapy to avoid joining MGTOW. I think their response is mostly due to their social programming, religious values, and the era in which they grew up in. While I don’t mean to set those things up as mere excuses, my parents are still married to this day, and it’s quite possible they don’t really know how to respond to Men Going Their Own Way.

MGtOW_Medic - EMT - P, Firefighter Lvl 2, Hazmat Ops

[Duke TogoParticipant 2664]

Welcome to the best place on the internet for men.

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[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Welcome home!

[Anonymous 42]

Modern women cling to every surrounding hive while banishing their mans leadership skills in a mental mind melt to get you to go alone with any particular one of her hives with opinions and standards changing daily and sporadically.

Ignore them and enjoy your lifelong journey to regained sanity.

MGTOW is good stuff in this bent and twisted world where men are 2nd class citizens and swept under the carpet like dust and dirt or something.

Welcome to the philosophy of MGTOW and out of the dark ages!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home brother.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 43]

I went through all of that and more

Did yer wife seem like she was a different person/possessed
unhappy with everything you did
explosive rage over small s~~~
accused you of lying, cheating and being an ahole?
turned from being married to being room mates, then an employee?

You attitude towards your relationship…if she isn’t on fire or drowning in a lake she is fine.

Her attitude: He hates me, he is plotting against me and he is fukn any thing female in this county.

Yup, welcome to the party pal.

[MGTOW_MedicParticipant 184]

Anonymous wrote:

I went through all of that and more

Did yer wife seem like she was a different person/possessed
unhappy with everything you did
explosive rage over small s~~~
accused you of lying, cheating and being an ahole?
turned from being married to being room mates, then an employee?

You attitude towards your relationship…if she isn’t on fire or drowning in a lake she is fine.

Her attitude: He hates me, he is plotting against me and he is fukn any thing female in this county.

Yup, welcome to the party pal.

She still accuses me, two years post divorce that I am just “dishonest about everything.”

I never got the whole “You’re sleeping with someone else.” bit but I am sure it was tucked somewhere in that pandora’s box of a mind.

She really did seem to dramatically change. Ironically chanting the mantra that “You’re not the same man that I loved when we were dating.”

I would even tell my friend’s if I could go back to moment I did something that seem to flip that switch, I would. The only problem was I never knew when it was. Now, I know that I wasn’t me that flipped any switches or forced her to act any certain way, she was just f~~~ing insane lol.

MGtOW_Medic - EMT - P, Firefighter Lvl 2, Hazmat Ops

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome brother and it’s the rest of the world that needs therapy (or a good kick in the butt) not us!

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

MGTOW_Medic wrote:

I would even tell my friend’s if I could go back to moment I did something that seem to flip that switch, I would. The only problem was I never knew when it was. Now, I know that I wasn’t me that flipped any switches or forced her to act any certain way, she was just f~~~ing insane lol.

This has to be the most freeing thing men learn after reading MGTOW content — “Holy s~~~, all this time it’s THEM, not me!”

Welcome to the forums!

[Anonymous 24]

MGTOW_Medic wrote:

There is certainly growth in challenging your own perceptions.

Many men do not understand this. Without it, one is stuck in a calm sea without a sail in the ocean of learning and progressing.

Jiddu Krishnamurti says it something like this-

Unless a man is in constant rebellion against everything he knows and has been taught, he can never become an enlightened being. He can only be a construct of what has been put before him.

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome brother!

[AttonParticipant]

Velcome.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

MGTOW_Medic wrote:

My family seemes to think that if I yield to the authority of some cognitive therapists then I will be okay to date again

The only authority you should yield to is your own sovereignty.

Be your own man.

Go your own way.

Welcome home brother medic.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

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