MGTOW VS WGTOW (single mothers)

[bagsofsandParticipant 1391]

So, it seems MGTOW has existed for a loooong time, and I just realized WGTOW has become more prevalent in society in the last couple years – by women choosing to have children without a partner/no father for the child.

I just googled the thing, and many articles are supporting the issue: no stigmas, free fertility treatments, not knowing the identity of the donor being no issue for the child, strong social support groups for the moms, etc. etc.

I don’t believe it’s all coming up roses… And many are quick to proclaim: “well, I never had a father in the first place”, or “my dad left us when I was 3”. Ok, so these examples doesn’t really make fatherhood LESS important, or dismiss the importance of a father re: the development of the child’s self, does it?

How about discussing WHY daddy left you/the family? Or talk about WHY many men are opting out?

Or you can just raise your kid alone…

But you don’t really raise him/her alone. Society is your partner now.

But society doesn’t give A S~~~ about you when you grow old(er), – please have that in mind, dear woman, when you reject your men throughout your 20’s and 30’s, because you see men as something you can just get on tap from a dating app, or you think you can choose a beta suitor, whenever you feel like that time has come.

[joetechParticipant]

By doing this and having the mothers raise these kids with no fathers in the picture it’s going to illustrate how unnecessary child support really is, and what a scam it’s become. Good for them!

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[OgreParticipant 5863]

It will take time to play out.

Check back on both groups in 30 years.

Old dudes who never married will be sitting on millions and dating the daughters of these women, or not. The women will be more bitter, nastier, older versions of what they are today.

Go your own way ladies, it’s always worked out in the past.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

There’s no comparison because wgtow is an oxymoron.

Men go their own way and want only to be left alone to live their lives in peace
Women “go their own way” only with massive state (read: taxpayer, read: predominantly male) support and spend most of their days bitching about how there are no “good men” to provide said support instead.

[OldBillParticipant]

WGTOW? The very name is a lie.

Those women aren’t going their own way any more than any other woman does. Their lives are wholly underwritten by men, their mistakes are paid for by men, their “successes” come at the expense of men, and their choices only amount to how much they’ll take and not whether they’ll take money from men.

As a group, women are a liability to the state their entire lives. They never pay into the system anywhere near the amount they receive from the system. On the other hand, men as a group become an asset upon becoming adults and don’t become liabilities until after about 80 years of age.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Well personally I’m all for it. Just like I’ll be all for the artificial womb when they get that figured out. Then a man can have a baby without a woman involved. And I’m all for the male birth control pill.

Because……..Equality.

Order the good wine

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

The irony is, they think they are destroying men, but they are really destroying themselves.

It works out great for them at first. They get the free government money and benefits, and child support. They love it because they love money but don’t want to work for it, and they love attention which they get for being “brave, empowered” single women.

They dont GTOW the same way as men either, they are not strong enough to do this willingly. For the first few years they continue dating, and assuming they didn’t completely let themselves go. But there is one key difference, one which they are unable to detect: most of the men they date, especially the ones they want most, immediately lose long term interest in them once they know there is a child involved. So essentially, they will never be more than a pump and dump for the men they want, and still think they can get.

Over time they will start to deteriorate sharply, much worse than their child free counterparts. Soon they cant compete, and they start becoming neurotic. Over the next 10-15 years, all the attention from men they took for granted vanishes from their lives. Then when their kids grow up, most of the welfare and child support vanishes too.

In other words, they are left woth absolutely nothing, and no hope for getting back the opportunities they sacrificed 20 years ago. No woman today has the foresight to see this, but nevertheless it is inevitable.

These single mothers have nothing to look forward to except a lifetime of loneliness, misery, and abject poverty. The rewards they get last only a few years, but the consequences last a lifetime. Enjoy the show, my brothers. This will be the entertainment for our retirement.

[narwhalParticipant]

The other’s have already stated it. Most women who claim to be independent are far from it. They are getting unearned money from a man or the government in some way.

So for those that are actually going their own way, I have no problem with that. I have concerns about fatherless children, but a actual WGTOW isn’t going to exacerbate that problem. I should be better then a dependent single mom in almost every way, quite possibly better than a lot of married women.

As for her happiness and well being, that isn’t really my concern.

Ok. Then do it.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Ogre wrote:

Check back on both groups in 30 years.

Old dudes who never married will be sitting on millions and dating the daughters of these women, or not. The women will be more bitter, nastier, older versions of what they are today.

I definitely want to see how this pans out.

I’ll be one of those old dudes.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[bagsofsandParticipant 1391]

MGTOW VS “WGTOW”

Topic title fixed in quote…

xanthine wrote:

These single mothers have nothing to look forward to except a lifetime of loneliness, misery, and abject poverty. The rewards they get last only a few years, but the consequences last a lifetime. Enjoy the show, my brothers. This will be the entertainment for our retirement.

Will do. As you said in another post

Don’t need a man? That’s good bitch, because you have decades of poverty and being single to look forward to, and when you die, you will be utterly alone. Not even your bastard kids will care or try to save you. This will become a pandemic, and i cannot wait to watch it from my early retirement spot in the Philippines.

Count me in..

Can we get little miss cupcake’s struggles with trying to raise her bastard kid transmitted in a reality show to the island — showing her little daughters out-of-control tantrums or herself dealing with the increasing monthly bills, – her being pumped and dumped during the weekends, – her trying to keep up with her career in the weekdays, – scarfing down Sertraline and Prozac, ice cream and red wine on sundays, and so much more fun…!

Actually just give me pornhub instead.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

KID: “Why did Daddy leave?”

SINGLE MOM: “Daddy left because he’s bad.”

KID: “Then why did Mommy get with Daddy if he’s bad?”

SINGLE MOM: “Daddy tricked Mommy. He pretended to be good but he was secretly bad.”

KID: “Ok, so not only are all men bad, but they are secretly bad when pretending to be good. I won’t trust any man ever.”

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

They are not WGTOW, they are WGSW, women going state way, where they are either directly or indirectly married to the state and drawing benefits from the state (public sector sinecure, social security payments, child payments, etc) And kids are total mess.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

One thing p~~~ me off…

Is that we are paying for all of it, even with no alimony, I got to pay extra taxes couse im single, no kids.

I have to find a way to get out of it.

I don’t mind paying for roads, police officers,fire fighters, army, but I will not pay for a bitch egotistical desition to have a “bebeee”.

Nor for women issues or feminist bulls~~~.

Women hate my guts, why should I help them?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Carnage wrote:

Is that we are paying for all of it, even with no alimony, I got to pay extra taxes couse im single, no kids.

Excellent point. We’re already paying for their s~~~, even while we’re MGTOW!!!!

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

bagsofsand wrote:

Can we get little miss cupcake’s struggles with trying to raise her bastard kid transmitted in a reality show to the island — showing her little daughters out-of-control tantrums or herself dealing with the increasing monthly bills, – her being pumped and dumped during the weekends, – her trying to keep up with her career in the weekdays, – scarfing down Sertraline and Prozac, ice cream and red wine on sundays, and so much more fun…!

Actually just give me pornhub instead.

Actually, that sounds like a great idea to me! Of course the MSM would never do a show like that, they never show women in any kind of negative light. However, it would be fairly easy to make an internet show out of it. You could start off just interviewing single mothers, maybe following them around for a few days and documenting their lives. I’d watch that show, hell I might even produce it just for fun. I doubt it would cost much.

As an added bonus, we could produce an exclusive Pornhub edition where we’d take the same women and record some degrading sex with them. It would still be fairly cheap to produce. Around here you can bang single moms for around $80 a piece if you really want to, and I live in a pussy wasteland in the midwest. You’d have to compensate the male actors quite handsomely for that job, though; banging single mothers, they get combat pay for that s~~~.

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

And since the the boys of these single mothers are growing up and starting to figure this s~~~ out, at what point do the new c~~~s becoming these single mothers start selective breeding? A la China, only having girls out of abject hatred.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

And since the the boys of these single mothers are growing up and starting to figure this s~~~ out, at what point do the new c~~~s becoming these single mothers start selective breeding? A la China, only having girls out of abject hatred.

They already did.

Feminist aborted a lot of kids because they where males.

I don’t mind I mean, a boy is better off death than becoming a slave, because that’s next, men slavery.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MonkParticipant 17047]

Carnage wrote:

One thing p~~~ me off… Is that we are paying for all of it, even with no alimony, I got to pay extra taxes couse im single, no kids.

Exactly.

Single mothers are married to the state, and the state has its hand in your pocket. Politicians buy their votes with your money.

When you consider how many single mothers there are, and how much they are paid, it’s fair to say that every working man has a monkey on his back.

I have to find a way to get out of it.

I pay no direct taxation because I ensure that my income never rises above the threshold. I have no debts and my needs are very simple, so I don’t require very much.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Because they do this, they will have no arguments to raise when men have children without women. Either by surrogate or artificial womb.

We already have data that show single dads do really well with THEIR kids. Single moms are the real disasters in the statistics and reality of things.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Carnage wrote:

One thing p~~~ me off…

Is that we are paying for all of it, even with no alimony, I got to pay extra taxes couse im single, no kids.

I have to find a way to get out of it.

I don’t mind paying for roads, police officers,fire fighters, army, but I will not pay for a bitch egotistical desition to have a “bebeee”.

Nor for women issues or feminist bulls~~~.

Women hate my guts, why should I help them?

What would be awesome is if our ‘taxes’ are taken out as per normal but instead of given to the government they would be set aside and given to us at tax time. Then when we go to pay it either online or go to an accountant(or H&R Block or wherever you go to get your taxes done) you’d have a choice on where that money would go, like a checklist and whatever you checked off that money would go there. Firefighting..check. Police services…check. Single moms…..

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

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