MGTOW Relationship

[eng_87Participant 122]

So,

As some of you know, my other half recently called it quits on our relationship, I went over yesterday to get the last of my stuff. I was distant, formal, in to get my stuff and leave.

Anyway, cut a long story short, the ex-other half, straight away said she had made a mistake, and that she didnt realise what she had until it was gone. Her reason is she has spent so much time fighting for her own turf after an abusive relationship (before me) that she became too independent.

I know it wasn’t because of some other dick…as I have remote access to her email and phone (a little security measure to cut through the bulls~~~- she used my comp once so it stays logged in). She was worried after ending it I would come back and damage anything, I told her, I work in the tech industry, I could’ve remote hacked all her accounts and wiped everything, but I didn’t because I am not like that. Anyway, I am intelligent and cordial and full filled her desire to talk.

I basically told her that she blew it, I was a catch and a half and if I wasn’t good enough then good luck finding some chump that is, I was kind, considerate, loving and f~~~ed her four ways from Sunday whenever the need arose.

Anyway, I told her that I was raised proper enough that forgiveness was not out of reach, only that if we were to mend the bridge and continue, if would involved her conceding to my rules. She would have to make it a 50/50 effort, that I’m tired of doing s~~~ without reciprocation. I used to talk marriage, but told her straight up, the love was there, but I have no intention and wouldn’t marry her. We talked kids, I told her, I’m over that as well, I’m not down for the kids thing any more and that if we got back together, I would love her like nothing happened but I would do my own thing, I would finish my books, see my friends and travel again. She would need to accept the man I was before we met. This wouldn’t make me an  arsehole, I wouldn’t act like a douche, I am a gentleman (and a f~~~ing sir, raised with manners in the shadow of a wooden spoon whooping).

Anyway, those were my terms, I have told her we will take a break for a week, meet to talk and if she wants to act like a person, we can move forward, with me in charge. Otherwise, I go my way without her, and never look over my shoulder. Or she can take my hand, be with a man that knows that life is his bitch and be happy with what she has.

Am I MGTOW, yes, am I possibly still in a relationship….yes. Am I under the thumb, no. Why is this, because no matter what happens, I can walk away from it in 15 seconds if I feel the heat coming around the corner.

Posted while feet up on a desk, smoking a cigar, enjoying a 18 year single malt. Tonight I finish the draft of my first poetry collection.

Life is good because I love and am my own man.

MGTOW is making yourself stronger. Love yourselves.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

One of the single biggest joys of MGTOW is in the third and fourth words. It is not men going Keymaster’s way, or Brit’s way or BadKan’s way or anyone’s way, it’s men going their own way. If this is indeed your choice made of your own free will and you think you can make it work, go with whatever God you look up to and the best of British to you, I hope it works out. Just bear one thing in mind, unless you’ve been fixed one “split” condom and you aren’t walking anywhere inside of the next 18 years. Fly safe.

[eng_87Participant 122]

I checked the cost the other day on the fix, I’m contemplating getting it done sometime in the near future.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I can bet she will f~~~ it up, it’s women nature not to give a s~~~ about a man. She’s too f~~~ed to really care, she’s probably just saying s~~~ hoping you’ll marry her. I hope you don’t live with her, it can be a real headache and depending where you live she can collect alimony with common law marriage.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I have my fingers crossed but I’m also wincing.

[experiencedParticipant]

Who initiated this recent travail? – Her.     Gotta agree, make it a chronological prerequisite for yourself to get snipped as laydeez never stop pondering in a scheming manner. You want her powerless when she starts round two.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Her reason is she has spent so much time fighting for her own turf after an abusive relationship (before me) that she became too independent.

And now its: “I didn’t know what I had until it was gone”???
But she knew she was in an “abusive relationship” and kept going back for more.

That’s entirely f~~~ed up on so many levels.

STAYS in an abusive relationship – because she doesn’t know what she has.
LEAVES the good guy – because she doesn’t know what she has.

Tell me you recognize the problem with that.

Conclusion: She doesn’t know what she has no matter how well – or badly – she is treated. After an “abusive relationship” she should already know what she has with you every goddam day. You don’t even need to work that hard! Not abusing her should already be a plus! And now treating her well was STILL not good enough? She gave you a s~~~ty cop out line, and I wouldn’t accept it. When neither being treated like s~~~ (or being treated well) are good enough for her, then she should remain single. Exclamation point.

If I were with a girl who just came from an abusive relationship and she isn’t GUSHING over being treated well, she is history. Permanently. THAT’s a girl with more issues than Vogue. That’s like adopting a beaten dog, and a year after you nurse it back to health, it bites your face off.

eng_87 wrote:

She had made a mistake

This one loves making mistakes. That’s TWO in a row now. Enjoys generating drama and is using you as a plaything. How you treated her is totally irrelevant. I’ll get him to move out… I’ll get him to move back. Yay! I win!! I can have whatever I want!!! like a drug addict getting her fix.

•••••

Quite sincerely, I wish you every success. And while we’re on the topic of you outlining all the terms, you may enjoy reading the terms of Einstein’s marriage contract. He remained married but added clauses that said:

You will renounce all personal relations with me insofar as they are not completely necessary for social reasons. Specifically, you will forego…
1. my sitting at home with you;
2. my going out or traveling with you.

… which is another way of saying “I will to go my own way and its not negotiable”.

I hate that line: “I didn’t know what I had until it was gone”.
Just like that song chicks love: “didn’t know you loved her ’til you let her go”.
Whatever bulls~~~ sell albums, I guess.

Men will put with all kinds of s~~~ and hang on her even when its’ not great for him. When it’s great for a woman, she lets him go anyway and realizes it after the fact. That makes about as much sense as an orange with handlebars. For that reason, I believe in “One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.” Did the best of what I was prepared to do. If my “best” isn’t good enough, that’s the end of it – regardless of who calls it off.

Don’t call me and tell me “I didn’t know what I had until it was gone”. I already know women play like that. That’s WHY I was good to them. So I can respond with “That’s your own f~~~ing problem. Don’t make it mine.” when the phone rings again, and feel really good about it.

One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[eng_87Participant 122]

Thanks for the above advice, I am taking it all on board. To clarify, I have moved out, I am not moving back in, I live down the road and have my own place, I kitted it out this weekend, bookshelf, shelf for my whiskeys and tobacco pipes, humidor is on the way, 2 min away from my gym, new flat screen tv, the works,

Heading to the doctors, end of the week to get info on that procedure.

Any others been through it?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Excellent job. It’s obvious you’ll do fine and have your head on right.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Heah Eng 87.  From Canada.  Had a vasectomy.  Most guys who’s b~~~~ hang well below the penis can have it done at the doctors office.  Guys with their b~~~~ higher up or closer to their penis have to have general anesthetic.  But it was easy.  Two very tiny cuts.  Over in less than a week.  But let me givc you one piece of advice.   Get some of your sperm frozen.  You never know.

I just love your last statement “Am I under the thumb, no. Why is this, because no matter what happens, I can walk away from it in 15 seconds if I feel the heat coming around the corner”.  To me that is pure MGTOW.  No longer pussy whipped, in full control, no absolute attachment, can pull the plug at any moment without any remorse, no regrets and no concerns.  That puts you in absolute full control.  That is having your own way.  She’ll try coming back with a compromise but tell her its your way or the highway.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

What does it take to have your sperm frozen and how much does it cost?
When the time comes – do you have to use it in vitro or what? How much is that?

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

No scalpel vasectomy is ideal considering it’s less pain. You should still use condoms because vasectomy isn’t 100% effective.

http://www.noscalpelvasectomy.com/about-the-procedure

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[BDParticipant 1146]

Keymaster wrote:

One chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.

The KeyMaster is brilliant. If you bring her back she will just hook you in until you care again, and then she will screw you over, it’s just a game women play if you have control of if you’ve dumped them, they want the last laugh. One chance.

Crazy Canuck wrote:

No scalpel vasectomy is ideal considering it’s less pain. You should still use condoms because vasectomy isn’t 100% effective.

I had the no scalpel  vasectomy, it was quick, just get your semen tested a couple times after to make sure. And it is reversible, I think I found a statistic of around 78% success if reversed, if for some reason lightning struck you and you found a unicorn, the Aerosmith song “Dream On” just started randomly playing in my head… hmmm

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