mgtow of faith

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Bring any stories, articles, sayings, pictures, prayers and anything pro-faith or pro-religion..regardless of the creator you choose God, buddha, allah or flying spaghetti monster…This is not a place for debates but prayers….

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I believe the word creator was important and also that people of faith are more open minded and less prone to attack other people based on their religious beliefs or practices, even those with no belief..

…The room next door is “athiest mgtow” we should respect their right not to believe in a creator. And accept they were born with that right inherent…Nothing stops you from going next door but I would ask that you not criticize or attack when you do….they are welcome here under the same request that they don’t  attack….My experiment in boundaries while creating a safe place for believers and non-believers alike…..

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

About drinking to exess

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

My concern is that my nephew has celiac disease… is there a gluten-free FSM or must we wait for a ‘second coming’ or ‘rapture’ type event? Can my nephew be fully embraced by His Holy Noodliness or are His appendages both gluten and gluten free?
My question has more to do with becoming holy and revered as fast as humanly possible. I have a demanding career, a busy social life and enjoy quality programing on HBO. I think also an aura of holiness can serve me well at the bar. Can I do this by carbo-loading? That is fasting from pasta for 3 days and then gorging on carbs, such as pasta, for 3 days… for on the 7th day I will rest. Will this be a quick route to enlightenment?
Ramen

Can the noodle be consumed? Or is it too Ravi-holy to be consumed by man?

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

My dear brother in FSM, with regards to your concern, I personally believe that your nephew can not be harmed by the starchy caress of His Noodliness. The way I look at it, we consume pasta in a spiritual way because within it resides a spiritual essence, or bond, that links us to FSM. The pasta being it’s vessel, channeling FSM. Now, can pasta not come in different shapes and contain different ingredients? Do we not use different methods to make cavatappi and tortellini? or Egg noodles and rice noodles? Gluten free PASTA is still PASTA. His Noodliness will reach your nephew with all the strength of uncooked fusilli.

With regards to the way we consume pasta, I always thought that it’s not dissimilar to the christian diety’s ‘essance’ found in blessed bread. Of course credit where credit is due, they are on the right track in discovering the spiritual power that lies within all ingredients of pasta, but stop there. They present it in the wrong form…and praise the wrong name 🙁 but I also believe FSM is forgiving; I pray for my lost friends and hope His Noodly appendage dips them back into the right sauce.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

The “Flying Spaghetti Monster” was first described in a satirical open letter written by Bobby Henderson in 2005 to protest the Kansas State Board of Education decision to permit teaching intelligent design as an alternative to evolution in public school science classes.[6] In that letter, Henderson satirized creationism by professing his belief that whenever a scientist carbon-dates an object, a supernatural creator that closely resembles spaghetti and meatb~~~~ is there “changing the results with His Noodly Appendage”. Henderson argued that his beliefs were just as valid as intelligent design, and called for equal time in science classrooms alongside intelligent design and evolution.[7] After Henderson published the letter on his website, the Flying Spaghetti Monster rapidly became an Internet phenomenon and a symbol of opposition to the teaching of intelligent design in public schools.[8]

Pastafarian tenets (generally satires of creationism) are presented both on Henderson’s Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster website, where he is described as “prophet”, and in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, written by Henderson in 2006. The central belief is that an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. Pirates are revered as the original Pastafarians.[9] Henderson asserts that a decline in the number of pirates over the years is the cause of global warming.[7] The FSM community congregates at Henderson’s website to share ideas about the Flying Spaghetti Monster and crafts representing images of it, as well as to discuss “sightings” of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Because of its popularity and exposure, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is often used as a contemporary version of Russell’s teapot – an argument that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon those who make unfalsifiable claims, not on those who reject them. The Flying Spaghetti Monster has received praise from the scientific community and criticism from proponents of intelligent design. Pastafarians have engaged in disputes with creationists, including in Polk County, Florida, where they played a role in dissuading the local school board from adopting new rules on teaching evolution.

 

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is typically depicted as a clump of tangled spaghetti with two eyestalks, two meatb~~~~, and noodly appendages. This iconic image, Touched by His Noodly Appendage was originally created in August 2005 by the Swedish designer Niklas Jansson as a parody of Michelangelo’s The Creation of Adam. The image has become the de facto brand image for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Qbeck01Participant 57]

I’ve considered that being MGTOW means living for yourself; it’s about pursuing your own goals; Not sacrificing yourself for women…or gods.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

MG-TOWER had some profound words on submitting or sacrificing yourself to your faith….

Faith is not a tyrannical ruler..

MG-TOWER wrote:

We don’t SUBMIT like cattle to our faith, we merely walk along life’s trail keeping our faith on a friendly order, like having a friend that has wisdom over both logic and emotion; it takes courage to allow your mind, body and soul to be entered by a spirit, other than yours…..a duality, yet I’m singular. I am MGTOW all the way! I don’t judge others, I don’t shame others, I am never condescending to others, I’ve been there. I realize the difficulty atheists have in opening there minds to other options.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Do any of you regularly attend a brick and mortar 501c3 church..I am a man of faith yet I will not go to a church of the states creation…And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
-Ephesians 5:11.  Please read this written by an IRS employee

http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/501c3.php

 

Hosea 4:6 New King James Version (NKJV)

NKJV  Hos-4-6  My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

“My faith quenches my thirst for knowledge”  HarpoMason

And then, where in the Bible did Jesus Christ say ‘thou shalt have thy tax-exempt status’? Tax “exemption” is not some God-given right. A true new-testament church is a spiritual entity, not material, so it is automatically not taxable. When the IRS says “exemption,” it means you already owe them taxes, but they allow you the privalege of being exempt. Just signing the 501c3 contract turns your church from spiritual entity by God to a material corporate business, and nowhere in the Bible does God protect men with special rights if they get yoked up with an evil government.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[RoyDalParticipant]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

Do any of you regularly attend a brick and mortar 501c3 church..I am a man of faith yet I will not go to a church of the states creation…And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. -Ephesians 5:11.

Nope. Not any more. I was raised Episcopalian (Church of England in GB), and I am still a card-carrying member. I quit going because the church has been taken over and dominated by feminazis. Yes, feminists of the fascist persuasion. I now believe all establishment churches are nothing but tools of the state — the politically correctness wing of the state.

These days I just stay home with my dog. I read the Bible and surf the net for Biblical inspiration. But, that’s just me. There are heaps of non-denominational and independent churches in my area, and I live in the rural sticks. Maybe one of those would suit you.

My final advice: Shop Until You Drop.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

RoyDal wrote:

These days I just stay home with my dog. I read the Bible and surf the net for Biblical inspiration. But, that’s just me. There are heaps of non-denominational and independent churches in my area, and I live in the rural sticks. Maybe one of those would suit you.

I do the same as you RoyDal, feel free to post any online Biblical inspirations you find in here. I live in Texas we have cowboy churches that meet outdoors weather permitting. everyone welcome and no overhead..I seldom go.. but I know they are private not state run…

I now believe all establishment churches are nothing but tools of the state

yes that was what the link proved…so your belief is fact…interesting read… http://www.creationliberty.com/articles/501c3.php

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

RoyDal wrote:

I quit going because the church has been taken over and dominated by feminazis.

That is everywhere.  I was waiting for someone to bring this point up. +1

I go, but not for the people.  I pay my respects to God and leave.  Other than that, it can be a painful experience to deal with the people.  I understand why men have left, but I do not agree it is right.  God is God.  I am not there to worship or pay my respects to man.

Give to God what is God’s to Caesar what is Caesar’s.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

friends are found in the strangest places. I have found no stranger place than this..HarpoMason

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Yellow WizardParticipant 41]

This dual thread “mgtow of faith” versus “athiest mgtow” (funny how you de-legitimize atheism by spelling it wrong) is a farce. Harpo Mason advocates religion through intellectual dishonesty.

1) You promote the faith side by encouraging “…stories, articles, sayings, pictures, prayers, and anything pro-faith or pro religion”, yet you encourage no such pro ANYTHING on the atheist side. You only tell the atheists not to argue.

What a load of myopic, one sided bias. Atheists have many positive things to add to the world. You could encourage humanism, ethics, evidence based reasoning, or any number of SECULAR notions on the atheist side, Harpo. A fair comparison isn’t what you’re after, obviously.

2) Atheist bashing (in the form of pro “faith” sophistry) is happening on the atheist thread, yet you do nothing to discourage it. You fold your arms in front of you and act like a troll. Meaningful arguments are being repeated over and over again (such as Qbeck’s notion that critical thinking and reasoning requires positive evidence for the existence of something in order to formulate belief). You even acknowledge these arguments by re-quoting them. And then, like a schizophrenic, you ignore what’s happening and tell us how you have such free will and how great you are. Nice.

3) You try to shame the atheists (or antitheists, in my case) in your topic introduction by asking…

“Is atheism hatred of religion and religious people? Do you Hate the people next door? Can you refrain from going next door and telling them?”

Which aren’t questions you ask on the “faith” side, implying that atheists are haters. To make it fair, on the “atheist” side, why didn’t you ask…

“Is religion hatred of secular people? Do you hate the atheists and secular humanists next door? Can you refrain from going next door and telling them?” 

Seriously, why is there one standard for the side you agree with and not the other? Do you need to claim that you need protection from “atheist privilege” because atheists are “natural” haters and are instinctively aggressive? Why do you use these patently FEMINIST TACTICS? Are you a woman, Harpo? If not, then why do you portray “mgtow of faith” as being pro-this and pro-that while denying that “atheist mgtow” can have positive attributes?

Other people have already fallen for your dichotomy, so changing your wording retroactively would be useless.

What you have labeled an “experiment” is nothing more than you masturbating into your bible. How blasphemous.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Yellow Wizard wrote:

You could encourage humanism, ethics, evidence based reasoning, or any number of SECULAR notions on the atheist side,

What contributions exactly?

Yellow Wizard wrote:

You try to shame the atheists (or antitheists, in my case) in your topic introduction by asking… “Is atheism hatred of religion and religious people? Do you Hate the people next door? Can you refrain from going next door and telling them?”

Legitmate question.  After the swearing and name calling why wouldn’t one ask that?

Yellow Wizard wrote:

“Is religion hatred of secular people? Do you hate the atheists and secular humanists next door? Can you refrain from going next door and telling them?”

First question:  Many religions exist with secular authorities.  Catholicism for a quick example.  Can atheism coexist without trying to influence secular standards?  Double standard there.

Second:  By being “pro faith” you are claiming we hate someone.  To be “pro”-anything would require hatred according to your standards.  So to be “pro” atheist means one has to hate religious people according to you.  Double standard there.

What positive attributes has atheism brought?  Give specific examples please.  Because the only thing I see is persecution, no ethical standards, condemning people for beliefs, etc.

 

[Yellow WizardParticipant 41]

John Doe, your statements are moronic.

You ask, “Can atheism coexist without trying to influence secular standards? Double standard there.”

ATHEISM IS SECULAR. It is worldly. It is in a state of being SEPARATE FROM RELIGION. Your question is as ridiculous as asking if you can solve mathematics problems without relying on numbers.

You ask, “What positive attributes has atheism brought? Give specific examples please. Because the only thing I see is persecution, no ethical standards, condemning people for beliefs, etc.”

Two responses. First, ETHICS IS AN ATHEIST FIELD. Ethics is a branch of Philosophy that creates a SECULAR (meaning separate from religion) method of determining right and wrong. Utilitarianism? Atheist. John Rawl’s Theory of Justice? Atheist. Deontology, Pragmatism, Normative Ethics, etc., etc.? All secular, all Atheist contributions. “Right and Wrong” to a bible banger is following the bible. Ethics is a contribution of Philosophy that has nothing to do with religion.

Second, Atheism’s biggest contribution is to clear thinking. It is a lack of acceptance of superstition, mythology, primitive fantasies, and dogmas concerning the origin and state of Man. If you say this is no contribution, then by the same utterance you are saying that MGTOW is no contribution. MGTOW, after all, is a lack of acceptance of superstition, injustice, fantasies, and dogmas about marriage and relationships.

You say, “So to be pro Atheist one has to hate religious people according to you.” Preceded and proceeded by a bunch of nonsense that wasn’t stated and wasn’t implied.

Wow, um, wow. No one but you is talking about hating PEOPLE. No one but you, John Doe.

You exhibit all of the classic symptoms of schizophrenia, dude. Seriously. I have known some people with schizophrenia in my life, and it is sad to watch mental illness progress. I would suggest you consult the mental health community for an evaluation, since it is clear your cognitive faculties are impaired.

For your sake and ours, please seek assistance.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Yellow Wizard wrote:

ATHEISM IS SECULAR

Athiesm has no epistemology according to some, if you look on the free will thread.  So in this sense is can be government promoted but not an authority which creates government or gives them authority (does not create concept of government).

Yellow Wizard wrote:

Utilitarianism? Atheist.

And that ended up having men treated like a utility.

John Rawl’s theory of justice, made the state of justice as fairness (If I remember my studies, I read him like 5 years ago.) but gave know rational or consistent answer as to how to determine value in order to be “fair”.

You are just listing a bunch of philosophies for the others.  Every “group” has a philosophy.  So if value is determined by a mindset then everyone is equally right.  But it is not that way.

Yellow Wizard wrote:

Second, Atheism’s biggest contribution is to clear thinking. It is a lack of acceptance of superstition, mythology, primitive fantasies, and dogmas concerning the origin and state of Man.

That leads one to science and in that sense nothing as change.  Half of modern science is based on unproved/unprovable theories.  Athiesm gives no answers but rather raises the power of the human ego to an almost mythical status.

Dogmas are unavoidable wherever you go.  They are just a set of rules and guidelines.  That and Athiesm does not have a dogma, and if it has one then you are contradicting yourself.  If it does not, as I just said, then the ethics/philosophies you have just promoted are to be tossed out the window.

Yellow Wizard wrote:

If you say this is no contribution, then by the same utterance you are saying that MGTOW is no contribution.

MGTOW has no rules.  If it does, then the members are not going their own way.

I am not hating anyone at all.  I am simply saying you make no sense and that:

Yellow Wizard wrote:

You exhibit all of the classic symptoms of schizophrenia, dude. Seriously. I have known some people with schizophrenia in my life, and it is sad to watch mental illness progress. I would suggest you consult the mental health community for an evaluation, since it is clear your cognitive faculties are impaired.

So make up your mind.

 

[Gravel PitParticipant]

See? Harpo was on GOD going back to the very beginning. heheheh

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