MGTOW + nofap … scary results !

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

OK so first of all I gotta say huge thank you to this community, have only been a member for a very short time and already the transformations in every area of my life are epic!!! I have learned so much from every single post or reply that I have read on here. Any time I feel tired, de-motivated or negative I just jump onto the forums and get inspired!

So… Just a quick update for y’all of my triple barrel approach and how it is going. I am currently employing the following three lifestyle choices:

1) MGTOW mindset + daily education and inspiration. Red Pills Red Pills..lol
2) Ghosting 6 days a week. ( 1 day social + shopping )
3) NoFap. ( No masturbation or watching pornography AT ALL )

Basically I work from home, ghosting 6 days week and only go out on one day for food/supplies or social meets. My days are spent focusing on work, weight-lilfting + cardio, learning/reading and eating a balanced diet. My dedication to this regime has increased massively since joining this community.

Although I realise this Triple Barrel approach is more extreme than most would want to take it, the benefits of having all three in alignment have been staggering! I have tried having one and even two of these in the past, but it seems (for me at least) that the magic combination for personal growth has been to have all of them in harmony with each other. It actually feels like real spiritual growth.

The funniest part is how people react to me now when I do go out on my one social day… the attraction and attention from women is hilarious. I used to get a fair amount of attention from opposite sex but it was always mixed results. But now… it is beyond a joke, despite my efforts to ignore women totally when I’m out .. nearly every female looking my way, smiling , or in some cases following me around a store lol … What’s ironic is that i’m looking at them with contempt or flat out blanking them and I’m getting insane positive vibes and flirting coming back at me. It must be an aura or some s~~~ like that because it’s extremely noticeable. I guess the body language you give off when you have your s~~~ together in life is what triggers it?? The way I’m looking at bitches right now is practically insulting and they be smiling.. I mean wtf lol

Also, I have had several major break-throughs in my work which I directly attribute to this new and improved regime. Bit that like the movie Limitless… brain fog is lifted lol

Anyway, Just wanted to share my personal experience with you guys, having employed this routine for some time now and reaping massive rewards from it in every area of my life. Huge thanks once again to the MGTOW community and this bad-ass forum 😀

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Amazing what a MAN can do when he is focused on his purpose and NOT distracted by pussy. Glad to hear your positive results. Keep posting.

BTW – my life is far far better now that I am MGTOW and largely a ghost in life. Much thanks to this site and the MEN here.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.

How old are you? Just asking because of the no fap.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Thanks guys – wasn’t sure if anyone would be that interested in a general update, but things have changed so significantly I felt I needed to share it.

Pedal, run, row wrote:

How old are you? Just asking because of the no fap.

I’m 28 Pedal. It’s not like I was fapping every day , but I wasn’t cutting that s~~~ out completely like I am now.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Anonymous 6]

MGTOW + No Fap + Time = Enough Strength to Break a Wall

(Venom’s Laws of Physics)

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW + No Fap + Time = Enough Strength to Break a Wall

(Venom’s Laws of Physics)

Good job about the ‘Time’ part… I will need that to repair my office wall, turns out you were right! 😛

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Do as you please but it seems unhealthy.

“only go out on one day for food/supplies or social meets” mean that sometimes you spend some weeks without social meets, practically without meaningful human contact (because buying food cannot be “meaningful social contact”)

Sexual release is healthy, the problem with masturbation (and with sex, for the very few people in the world who have the chance to have too much sex) is when it’s too much: it’s like chocolate or a glass of red wine. If you’re afraid about too much masturbation (or sex): masturbation without using porn, once or twice per week. You’ll experiment positive effects in your mood.

Regarding women attention: it’s normal that when the opposite sex give you signals you feel better, there’s nothing bad in feeling your sexual worth. To me MGTOW isn’t about not enjoying validation, it’s about giving the right value to such validation, that is very low: in other words I appreciate signals throwed by a woman, but I give to such signals the very same value I give, in example, to feeling my muscles strong every morning after the pushovers – it’s a good sensation, I like it, but it cannot drive my life nor being a goal in my life – I don’t live for the good sensation after the 120-130 morning pushovers just like I don’t live for the good sensation I get when the candidate mayor touch my arms and my shoulders too much (I’m the candidate deputy mayor here).

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Now your arms will be the same size.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

I totally get that it might not be a good fit for everyone, and could also be highly dependent on circumstances, life goals , age etc. This is also why I acknowledged early on in my post that it is rather extreme.

Eric Lauder wrote:

Do as you please but it seems unhealthy.

With regard to it being unhealthy, here are the changes so far:
1. Significant Increase to Income 😀
2. Massive strength gains in workouts
3. Better mood, higher energy and concentration levels.
4. Healthier diet and a desire to plan my nutrition.
5. Skin and complexion healthier
6. Better quality sleep
7. More compassion and love for the important people in my life
8. More patience and discipline

The list goes on and on. For me it has been nothing but healthy.

Eric Lauder wrote:

“only go out on one day for food/supplies or social meets” mean that sometimes you spend some weeks without social meets, practically without meaningful human contact (because buying food cannot be “meaningful social contact”)

When did I ever say I went a week without social meets? I have a wide circle of friends so there are always people to hang out with on my social day. Shopping takes no more than an hour… so I usually have time for lunch with one or two friends , and then go see a band or visit a bar with friends in the evening.

Furthermore, on my ghost days I will still make some calls and chat over the
phone to my close inner circle of friends. This is a more exclusive list, only THE most important people who don’t try to influence me with negative s~~~ 😀

I agree with your comments on validation. I wouldn’t make changes just to feel this validation, nor would I place the value of that extra attention above other benefits in my life such as health and wealth. I simply noticed a significant increase and wanted to convey that in my post.

I wouldn’t suggest everyone go out and do it, but considering the positive effect these things have had on my life, I felt someone may benefit from hearing about it 🙂

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[BalthazarParticipant 722]

as far as no fap and physical vitality goes, it’s my understanding that current medical research says “if you don’t use it, you lose it” haha. to clarify that a bit more: if you don’t jerk off to release at all, eventually your testosterone levels will go down. if you jerk off too much it will also go down because you don’t have enough time to recover. apparently the optimum amount of frequency to keep your test. levels at a maximum is about once a week.

This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

True Balthazar, I am familiar with that study. As far as I know there is a lack of serious scientific research available on this topic so that study has stood out for analysis.

Is just my personal experience with Nofap when combined with other lifestyle changes.

I doubt it is unhealthy to stop beating your junk to a computer simulated stimulus. But each to his own, can try it and see 😀

I’m definitely not trying to say my way is best or anything like that, everyone is so different and for some this lifestyle would probably make them miserable lol Just wanted to put my experience out there, seeing as it improved my life so much. Peace 🙂

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Have you tried cold showers?

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Anonymous 3]

How old are you?

I rarely look at porn or masturbate, but I don’t make a conscious decision not to do either, I simply just don’t have any desire. When I do have the desire, which seems to be a couple of days here and there every few months or so, I don’t bother holding back or anything, I just do what I wish to do and get it done.

In my mid-20s my desires were strong, and I am really glad that time is behind me. NoFap in your 20s is probably a terrible idea. I did do something like that a few times, but I obsessed over it more than anything else. In your 20s, you might as well just screw as many girls as possible. You do that, by the time you hit your 30s your sex drive drops out and you no longer care. I have a few 4 and 5 at a time sessions, where I f~~~ed 4-5 women at once, aged 18-20 usually. Funny thing is they’d always approach me, then act very submissive. I’m fairly sure I can’t perform like that now, but in your 20s I think any healthy, fit man with a strong sex drive can do so.

The men that are the most messed up are the ones that got no sex in their teens and twenties, and maybe a trickle in their 30s. Then they’re in their 40s and 50s, trying to convince everyone that 40+ year old women are sexy. Try not to be one of those guys. Sex is something to enjoy as a young man, and then leave behind and do other things as your passions cool.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Just to be clear I’m not talking about No SEX here…Healthy natural sex with a woman , totally different thing in my opinion.

I’m talking about not jerking off to a fake stimulus, ie: porn….which I feel is an unnatural reward system that conditions the brain in unhealthy ways.

IMO you are essentially providing your neural system with the highest level of pleasure (orgasm) for the least amount of effort ( clicking a button and dropping your pants ) . Thereby establishing a strongly embedded pleasure reward system which doesn’t inspire you to increase your work ethic in life in order to obtain it.

Anyway was just my 2 cents on the subject, based on personal experience. I wasn’t intending Nofap to be the sole focus of the thread, probably chose a bad name for it lol

I’m pretty sure there have been many influential men throughout history who have practiced abstinence from sex , combined with solitude .. which has lead to breakthroughs in their work. I am very happy with the results and proud of the life I am living 🙂 Waking up every day seeing personal goals being crushed is a damn good feeling. Bring on the future 😀

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Gone Ghost wrote:

Just to be clear I’m not talking about No SEX here…Healthy natural sex with a woman , totally different thing in my opinion.

Natural?
What’s natural in using a condom?

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous 3]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Gone Ghost wrote:

Just to be clear I’m not talking about No SEX here…Healthy natural sex with a woman , totally different thing in my opinion.

Natural?
What’s natural in using a condom?

My tuna warnings went off with that last post. Seems like yet another poster wanting to perpetuate the female validation gynocentric system. Control the male sex drive, demand the male pursue the female and put his self worth on her approval.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Oh man I give up lol … kinda surprised to see men on a forum devoted to ‘going your own way’ attacking abstinence from porn and calling it unhealthy.

And I didn’t say that I was seeking validation or attention from women, merely that it was an observed OUTCOME OF THE CHANGES…

Each to their own. I’ll leave it at that.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

Gone Ghost wrote:

Just to be clear I’m not talking about No SEX here…Healthy natural sex with a woman , totally different thing in my opinion.

Natural?
What’s natural in using a condom?

My tuna warnings went off with that last post. Seems like yet another poster wanting to perpetuate the female validation gynocentric system. Control the male sex drive, demand the male pursue the female and put his self worth on her approval.

Indeed.
Saying that to no fap is good (and actaully possible in the long run!), then saying that sex with women is healthy and “natural”…
The reasons to not fap – not even once a week – are the same to not have sex, in fact sex could be even more problematic due the problem of STDs and the fact that you even lost sleeping hours while pursuing the women.

So, I had similar doubts, too.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous 3]

Gone Ghost wrote:

Oh man I give up lol … kinda surprised to see men on a forum devoted to ‘going your own way’ attacking abstinence from porn and calling it unhealthy.

And I didn’t say that I was seeking validation or attention from women, merely that it was an observed OUTCOME OF THE CHANGES…

Each to their own. I’ll leave it at that.

Now playing the victim, acting passive aggressive, taking a condescending tone, virtue signalling.

Tuna, tuna, tuna.

KM needs to do a better job disposing of tuna, this and X11 have been running around for awhile, being too obvious about it. It’s not even a weekend.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Anonymous wrote:

Control the male sex drive, demand the male pursue the female

I said I noticed a significant increase in female attention , despite trying to ignore them. At what point did I talk about pursuing the female???

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