“MGTOW Men Are More Likely To Be Good Looking & Successful”

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

MGTOW Isn’t Just a Bunch Of “Ugly Losers”
There are a lot of articles out there by mainstream media that attack the MGTOW philosophy, but more specifically attack the practitioners of the philosophy. Most of the insults include a variable slur of “ugly, loser, beta-male, pathetic, bitter and so on”. It’s a curious sight that other groups are attacking men that simply want to opt out of certain societal games because they no longer see them as beneficial.

Looks like someone’s been sniffing around this forum.

[LowKeyParticipant 702]

you would think PUA’s would be happy less men care about dating and women – more for them right?

This phrase struck me, back on my blue pill days I used to read this PUA stuffs and I can specifically vouch for that – less competition as they say.

But then again why are they bashing on MGTOWs? oh thats right….they’re losing money.

Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

It’s unsubstantiated insults that are the true sign of defeat. They try to shame and make fun of appearances because they CAN’T address any of our points. For Example:

MGTOW
I don’t do relationships because

Most Relationships don’t benefit men on any significant level.
Men have to make incredible sacrifices for most relationships (time, money + risk)
Marriage is a legal disaster for any man. (Alimony, child support, custody, etc.)
Men are seen in society as utilities and disposable and generally are treated as such.
The juice for the most part isn’t worth the squeeze (relationships, purposeless career-grinding, governmental subservience).

… What do you think about that?

Woman:

“lol you’re an ugly loser”

Ok, there’s not going to be any productive discussion, there can’t be one because women realize they will lose, and so they resort to shaming language, or just shout misogyny. There’s no point in engaging them, just like there’s no point in trying to talk calculus with a 2 year old. They simple aren’t capable.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Since MGTOW is a philosophy of self sovereignty and self discipline it’s more probable for most long time MGHOW to be physicaly fit than not ( self sovereignty of your body ). Regarding shaming, my opinion is that most gynocentrism and pandering of societies towards women is based upon consumism. SInce women ( and children even more ) spend up to 4 times more than men, goverments need to create a hamster wheel for all citizens, need men to marry hypergamous women who will spend his money, need women to have lots of children drains his wallet even more, so this two effects combined turm a man into a wild beast that works , works and works, so big corporations can increase their production ( more work slaves ) and their profits ( more consumers ).
So in term of a socio-economic problem, goverments need to somehow make sure those men keep falling into the trap of women+children since i.e. 80% of MGTOW population would be an economic disaster for them. In order to achieve this goverment and society will try to manipulate us the same way women have been doing it since the dawn of time, by emotional and psychological manipulation and shaming.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[LowKeyParticipant 702]

Silverstone the Second wrote:

It’s unsubstantiated insults that are the true sign of defeat. They try to shame and make fun of appearances because they CAN’T address any of our points. For Example:

MGTOW
I don’t do relationships because

Most Relationships don’t benefit men on any significant level.
Men have to make incredible sacrifices for most relationships (time, money + risk)
Marriage is a legal disaster for any man. (Alimony, child support, custody, etc.)
Men are seen in society as utilities and disposable and generally are treated as such.
The juice for the most part isn’t worth the squeeze (relationships, purposeless career-grinding, governmental subservience).

… What do you think about that?

Woman:

“lol you’re an ugly loser”

Ok, there’s not going to be any productive discussion, there can’t be one because women realize they will lose, and so they resort to shaming language, or just shout misogyny. There’s no point in engaging them, just like there’s no point in trying to talk calculus with a 2 year old. They simple aren’t capable.

Hence the reason why most men pull hair when arguing with a woman cause most women, if not all, are not capable of logical debates nor reasoning.

Never apply logic to women.

Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

“The juice for the most part isn’t worth the squeeze” (relationships, purposeless career-grinding, governmental subservience).

Hmm, I wonder where I’ve seen that before?

I don’t see a problem with this guy telling it like it is, almost a positive promotional piece.

He really gives a good succinct summary to the main arguments of MGTOW.

It’s about time someone told the truth.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Anonymous 7]

That article is actually a website of a good MGTOW youtuber, Trevor Freeman. He makes 6 digits a year and is good looking (no homo). Definitely true because MGHOW’s spend their time learning and being productive. Ever since I went MGTOW I get hit on more because of my mindset change

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

Looks like someone’s been sniffing around this forum.

http://theordinarylife.com/best-mgtow-forums/

You are correct. Check out #1 on his list.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

He forgot Leonardo DiCaprio and The “Homeless Billionaire”, Nicolas Berggruen.

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“MGTOW are nothing but a bunch of ugly losers who can’t get laid” is so grossly dishonest it’s not even funny. And it’s as much of a cliché as finishing a sentence with “it’s not even funny”. It’s the first thing detractors need to convince themselves of rather than accepting the reality that women are an EXPENSE that doesn’t pay. They only cost, and smart men know it,

Even women know it. Consider this post from a couple of days ago how a single mother TEACHES HER SIX YEAR OLD SON to dig into his wallet for a woman. which went positively viral with + 2 million “likes” from women all over facebook. “How to be a man”. The worst lesson in the word – taught by a woman.

There you go. Leave it up to women they want you to pay for them and waste money on them. Endorsing teaching a 6 year old that women are a f~~~ing expense and cost every time you just want to EAT. Then she wants to be paid to f~~~ off and get lost too (divorce). Men have FAR better investments to make and greater successes that don’t include female approval.

What a PERFECT reason to GYOW. Enforced and proven by women themselves.
And they think men who aren’t willing to be ATMS for women are “ugly losers”?? Guess again.

MGTOW are f~~~ing WINNERS.
But women refuse to use that word: “winners”.

Listen to the way women talk about men and they only use the words “losers” and “players”.
When she doesn’t get her way, you’re just an “asshole” and a “jerk”.

Fascinating, isn’t it.

For all the names MGTOW get called out there “stupid” is never one of them.
There’s a reason for that.

Take an “ugly loser who can’t get laid” and make him a millionaire, and then watch how laid he really gets.
Can a WIFE make you a millionaire? SURE!!! if you’re a billionaire.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Keymaster wrote:

And they think men who aren’t willing to be ATMS for women are “ugly losers”??

Oh, I am willing to be an ATM for an attractive woman.
But not the kind of ATM that dispenses money, but the acronym that stands for “Ass-To-Mouth”

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[economistParticipant 225]

Well, I’m gonna be honest here. A lot of MGTOW are bitter as hell. And angry. But no, that doesn’t mean all of us can be clumped into one stereotype. By definition, MGTOW are all on a different, individual path. By rejecting all women, of course we’re going to be seen as bad guys, women hate rejection. I think it’s just one of those cases where you have to live and let live, let people think whatever they want, you’re never going to stop them but they can’t stop you from being happy.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Once upon a time I really did live in my parent’s basement, but I was a sophomore in high school then, and the basement was totally remodeled into a living space.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 1]

I will give my take on things.

I think that, people that try to say Mgtows “are nothing but a bunch of ugly losers who can’t get laid” are the ones to which the only value in life is: having sex.

It doesn’t matter, as the article says, if Mgtows are Brad Pits or Quasimodos: relationships with women are not worth it. There are little to no to gain entering a relationshiop with the opposite sex, and EVERYTHING to lose. And those are FACTS. Whoever think that there are, indeed, any benefits for MEN (not women, not SOCIETY, but INDIVIDUAL MEN) to enter into a relationship wth women, please, present them. Instead, what we have are the same old and tiresome ad hominem, that at this point are not even worth rebutting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are so much losers that it hurts OTHERS what WE do with OUR LIVES.

If MRAs want to protect women, and try the what should be obvious and, dare I say, useless task to preach that feminism is wrong on a lot of things, and return to the “old gender roles”, be my guest. We need fresh meet for the grinder.

If PUAs want to use “techniques” to get laid, be my guest. We need fresh sacrificies for the women’s “beliefs”.

If Feminists want to be “strong and independent” and “need no men”, be my guest, corporations need more replacable cogs for the their engines.

I don’t know about you, but I… am… done. I work for myself, and I LIVE for myself. I help those that I deem worth of help, and just having a vagina is not taken in consideration, not anymore.

Does that makes me good looking and sucessful? I am not sure. But regardless of if I am or not these things, I am sure FREE, and this, is far more important to me.

Let the “real men” pay women’s bills, and clean their mess, after all, someone has to take the blame for women’s “fewings”. I am Mgtow and it is not my responsability.

Cheers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

MGTOW Men Are More Likely To Be Good Looking & Successful

Obviously.

Successful men have the most to lose. Also, if a man is fool enough to f~~~ up with a woman, he’s not bound to be very successful. And handsome men get a lot of exposure to women, and well… familiarity breeds contempt.

Just look at the reaction from women for confirmation. If MGTOW really were the fat, ugly, basement dwelling virgins women try to claim they are, then women wouldn’t give any f~~~s about them Going Their Own Way. But if you look around you’ll see it’s exactly the fat, unwashed, unshaven, unlaundered, and unemployed hamsacks with poor taste in hats who do all the simpering and white knightery to women.

Meanwhile I don’t think I’ve ever said “m’lady” in my life.

No, despite all their disparagement, women know exactly who the MGTOW are, and they are well aware their premium meal tickets are walking the f~~~ away. It started with successful Black Men walking away from black women, and now it’s all successful Men abandoning women in general. Thus all the rage and insults. And the constant attacks against this website.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

economist wrote:

Well, I’m gonna be honest here.

No need to start with that. The entire point is to be honest here. And we’re being honest. Honest!

economist wrote:

A lot of MGTOW are bitter as hell. And angry.

A lot of MGTOW have a lot to be angry about. The “angry” angle is also their angle. It’s right up there with “ugly loser”. But there are just as many MGTOW who have not experienced the hardships others have – because of them.

economist wrote:

But, that doesn’t mean all of us can be clumped into one stereotype.

Careful there. It can start to sound like a reverse-NAWALT argument. “Not all MGTOW are like that!”

Simple truth of the matter is MGTOW are not the only ones not getting laid either. Plenty of young & way outwardly attractive women who think they are fabulous are suffering in quiet desperation. Where’s the media and BBC shaming now?? Why aren’t the docu-dramas telling them “they just need a confidence boost to have success with men”. It’s all a bunch of horses~~~.

….. so all this “MGTOW = losers” nonsense is busted wide open.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

economist wrote:

A lot of MGTOW are bitter as hell. And angry.

What’s your point?

That doesn’t mean they’re not also handsome and successful.

But let us look at this “bitter and angry” thing a little deeper. When a MGHOW says: “”The juice isn’t worth the squeeze,” is he making a bitter statement? Does he sound angry? It sounds more to me like he simply gives no f~~~s.

Now compare that to the woman who responds: “You MGTOW are all just fat, ugly losers!” Doesn’t that seem a lot more bitter and angry? And sour grapes as well. And resentful.

Seriously, if you want to see angry, bitter, and hateful, look no further than your unfriendly neighborhood feminist:

The accusations of anger and bitterness and hate and all are just female projection from angry, bitter, hateful women panicking because they are losing their meal tickets.

Sucks to be them.

[Anonymous 7]

economist wrote:

A lot of MGTOW are bitter as hell. And angry.

You mistake seeing the world for its true colors with bitterness

Only men that just took the red pill might be angry but after the initial acceptance there is not much to be angry about.

If i call a women a stupid c~~~ it is not because I am angry but because she is a stupid c~~~.

[BryantParticipant 229]

just like kids who play online games who automatically default to the your a f~~~~~ etc etc, cant stand to take a loss

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

“MGTOW is just a bunch of ugly losers!”
Aaah
the sound of t~~~s in frustration
isn’t it beautiful?
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003792252/170566038_screaming_lil_girl_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

sidecar wrote:

economist wrote:

A lot of MGTOW are bitter as hell. And angry.

What’s your point?

That doesn’t mean they’re not also handsome and successful.

But let us look at this “bitter and angry” thing a little deeper. When a MGHOW says: “”The juice isn’t worth the squeeze,” is he making a bitter statement? Does he sound angry? It sounds more to me like he simply gives no f~~~s.

Now compare that to the woman who responds: “You MGTOW are all just fat, ugly losers!” Doesn’t that seem a lot more bitter and angry? And sour grapes as well. And resentful.

Seriously, if you want to see angry, bitter, and hateful, look no further than your unfriendly neighborhood feminist:

The accusations of anger and bitterness and hate and all are just female projection from angry, bitter, hateful women panicking because they are losing their meal tickets.

Sucks to be them.

I’d totally take one for the team and plough this bird, show her what she’s missing out on. Yep, an evening with “The Deep” and I’d have this fembot purring like a kitten and leading her like a man should.

And btw, i NEVER let aonyone make my sammiches…I like the ones I make!

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