MGTOW Literally Cured My Depression

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

Growing up 17 – 19 was a f~~~ing tough thing for me. I haven’t had much experience with girls yet. I basically made it my life mission to change myself extravagantly (A LOT). I hated who I was. I felt like I was behind in life. Society expected, and therefore I expected, myself to be a professional with women so that I could find the right woman and get married and have a boy, so that I could bring them up to not make the same mistakes I did, and so he could be a player that would get all the women. How f~~~ing shallow, and a waste of resources. But it was still an obsession, and my mind was on this s~~~ 24/7.

Everytime a girl rejected me, I took it very personal. It didn’t even have to be a “no”. If I felt like I just f~~~ed up a conversation with a girl in general, I was banging my head against the wall for the next three days.

I was sick of being a virgin, so I got a hooker. At EIGHTEEN. This made me feel better for a few days, but it didn’t really change that I still felt like a social reject. Fast forward I learned some basic game, I’ve had some relationships, and after they ended, I found myself craving the validation from women. I had this demonic voice in my head, you see. Constantly telling me I was a piece of s~~~. That I wasn’t good enough. That I’m horrible and ugly and fat and weak etc. It would hit me at random times of the day, and at times became very suicidal, and when I was younger…homicidal. It would tell me the only way that I only have worth is if I’m getting sex regularly, and if I wasn’t making steady progress towards that goal constantly, that I might as well just pull the trigger and start over. Soon I found MGTOW.

MGTOW teaches us that this is INCORRECT. This is a thoughtform created by women, and programmed into every man from birth. This is what gives women value. All women can truly provide is sex. Feminists want dominion over men. But that’s an impossibility, it is unnatural, and it could never work. I’m f~~~ing sick of living my life trying to live up to these standards, because it is a very INCONVENIENT TRUTH for WOMEN that they will NEVER be SATISFIED. No matter what you do, no matter how much gifts and money you shower them with, there is nothing you can do to make a woman happy. True happiness is when you’re happy regardless of the presence of others. Only now is it beginning to make sense.

So now I’ll go my own way. I don’t text girls anymore, it just creates drama and distances me from my friends, which my relationship with is stronger than ever. It’s been a month and a half since I’ve had an actual relationship, and this has been the longest amount of time in 5 years that I’ve gone without a serious suicidal thought. There have been days where I felt like s~~~(but not actually wanting to kill myself), but the next day I came back twice as hard. The values that MGTOW teaches has cured my sadness and loneliness. I am thankful for all of the failures I have made in my past, all of the negative influences, because it would not have made me who I am today, and I would not have found MGTOW. I have no regrets. Everything that has happened, happened because it was supposed to lead me here, and therefore it was good. By adopting these principles, it ensures that I will live up to my full potential, and become my best self.

Thank you for reading.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

You might want to get and read the books by Ariel and Shya Kane with the titles WORKING ON YOURSELF DOESN’T WORK and another one PRACTICAL ENLIGHTENMENT. Both books have insights on accepting yourself and others.

[Anonymous 5]

With me I’m schizophrenic but I always thought that I was weird because I didn’t care if I got a girl in high school I was always poor in that time I was more worried about losing my house because my mom and dad lost their jobs because of their backs I had my old video games like doom hell I was happy that I had games .I felt that I was the happiest person in the world.l felt lucky to have what I had I could give a s~~~ about women .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

The_Young wrote:

I felt like I just f~~~ed up a conversation with a girl in general, I was banging my head against the wall for the next three days.

Be VERY careful what you blame yourself (or accept personal responsibility) for. Most of the time it’s got NOTHING to do with you.

EXAMPLE:

When a woman is in love with you she moves to Paris and you buy a plane ticket to follow her… she will think you are “the most romantic man in the world”.

If she is NOT in love with you…. POOF!!! You’re a “stalker”.

In both cases, you are the same man, and you have done nothing different – or even wrong! So the line between “most romantic” and “total stalker” is purely imagined in her head.

It’s got NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

It’s not your gesture which counts as romantic. It’s purely her perception of it. It doesn’t exist unless she wants it to exist and imagines it. Your depression over it is fabricated too.

So it is NOTHING to be depressed about. If you went through all of the examples of times where you have made efforts and blamed yourself for “saying the wrong thing”, you would be able to cross nearly all off your list. And if we dug ourselves a grave every time, we would be eating noodles in Singapore right now.

We’re talking about the sex that dumps a boyfriend/husband for being “too nice”. Is that really YOUR PROBLEM? Did you do anything WRONG?

It’s not your problem.

The_Young wrote:

MGTOW teaches us that this is INCORRECT

That’s right. It’s not your problem.

The_Young wrote:

All women can truly provide is sex.

That’s patently false and also incorrect.

Women CAN provide much more than that. But just because a woman “can” bring more to the table, doesn’t means she does. That’s not up to YOU either. It’s up to HER.

The_Young wrote:

No matter what you do, no matter how much gifts and money you shower them with, there is nothing you can do to make a woman happy.

If that’s even a goal of yours, you’re going to be as frustrated and angry as this guy.

It’s not your job to give a woman what she wants, or be the man SHE wants you to be. Could you imagine if it were? One woman wants this. One woman wants that. Then she changes her mind about what she wants.

What a f~~~ing nightmare.

Your only responsibility is to be the man YOU always wanted to be. And a woman has absolutely no say in the matter.

NONE.

The_Young wrote:

True happiness is when you’re happy regardless of the presence of others. Only now is it beginning to make sense.

True happiness is not about being “happy” at all.
It’s about being CONTENT.

When you are content, happiness is sure to follow. Unless you’re a “happy” chaser – like a woman who constantly asks “why am I not happy right now?” – and then starts a conflict because of it. She will even create a conflict or a problem and treat you like an asshole when you’re “too nice”. That is the first best way to make yourself miserable and everyone around her.

Work on being content.

A woman has no f~~~ing idea what that even means.
Because she’s “happy”-est when she’s complaining.

“I have a problem with how my husband of 16 years greets by aging, fat miserable ass with a SMILE in the morning, because after 16 years of living with me, he still hadn’t figure out that I prefer to behave like a C~~~ before 10AM.”.

She’s got a very big f~~~ing problem, and it’s not her husbands. She just TALKS like it’s his problem. Don’t ever fall for that s~~~. She deserves to live the rest of her life is agonizing misery she cultivates for herself every day.

So what do women want? What would it take to make her happy?
There’s an answer to all of it:

WHO CARES.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I agree, MGTOW has improved my mental health by 100%.

It isn’t my fault.

I don’t need a female to be happy.

Females didn’t cheat on me because Im a bad man, but because that is what they do.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey young, So you’ve been going a month or more without a “relationship” a “bond” to this insane society’s narcissistic indoctrinated women! Wait until the smoke clears and your inner self is fed nutritious meals of self esteem.

Your focus will become more focused on your sovereignty and less on others and their bulls~~~.

You can’t maintain a healthy mind, body, and soul when things outside this realm are working against any part of your “being” (mind, body, soul).

Setting “you” to primary default in your mental settings under “concern” is the only way to raise the bar, then you rise above the scum that tries to elevate their self esteem by diminishing yours.

It’s called “taking care of #1” Otherwise you’ll be used for moping up someone’s #2. It’s a vicious world out there of mental domination and control, it’s your helm, your ship, your life, anyone that is offended by that, kick their asses overboard into the icy sea.

[bob__Participant 946]

Depression is a “disease” made up by Jewish psychiatrists. The goal of “treatment” is to make you conform to Jewish standards. These people call you sick if you don’t live the way you’re expected to.

[Anonymous 42]

bob__ wrote:

Depression is a “disease” made up by Jewish psychiatrists. The goal of “treatment” is to make you conform to Jewish standards. These people call you sick if you don’t live the way you’re expected to.

Bob, that’s f~~~ed up on every level of logic! Depression is a reality created by refusing to accept reality. Has nothing to do with religion.

Feminism is having a field day in the destruction of Israel’s men! That’s where all the Jewish “made up” disease of depression is from, it’s Jewish feminism!

[Jack123Participant 324]

The_Young,

I have had a similar experience. Hopeless with women and self-improving to oblivion. What should I do? Become a gym rat PUA or give up and eat cheezles and pork rinds whilst watching youtube clips on Saturday night. Is there a happy medium?

Since breaking up with my psychotic, depressed girlfriend in December I have joined tinder and have been on roughly 2 dates per week for 6 months. Believe me, I have had some utterly miserable, soul destroying experiences dealing with these girls. I have also had some very happy experiences.

The answer:- Your own way, it really is just that. Your own way will not be a woman’s way and it will not be what some guy on a forum says it should be. If you choose to self-improve, do it for yourself and not for a woman or any approval from anybody. You will not achieve any satisfaction, happiness or peace if you derive your sense of self-worth from others.

Personally, I enjoy dating for two reasons. If I have a bad date, it reminds me how happy I am being single. If I have a good date, I might have sex or have a short term relationship until things ultimately turn sour and I can rinse and repeat the process. The Mgtow philosophy simply reinforces the notion that you can be happy when you are not with women and that you should leave when being with a woman is not making you happy. These two concepts are profoundly important for guys who are depressed being by themselves or for guys who don’t realise that they should leave their horrible relationships.

Do what makes you happy brother. All the best.

[bob__Participant 946]

Anonymous wrote:

bob__ wrote:

Depression is a “disease” made up by Jewish psychiatrists. The goal of “treatment” is to make you conform to Jewish standards. These people call you sick if you don’t live the way you’re expected to.

Bob, that’s f~~~ed up on every level of logic! Depression is a reality created by refusing to accept reality. Has nothing to do with religion.

Feminism is having a field day in the destruction of Israel’s men! That’s where all the Jewish “made up” disease of depression is from, it’s Jewish feminism!

Ok, it’s only Jewish feminism we have to worry about. We don’t have to worry about Jewish domination of the media which they use to brainwash people into feminism and Jewish domination of psychiatry which they use to lobotomize people who don’t believe the media and put them into straitjackets.

[HitmanParticipant]

“Flowers grow best in s~~~ ”
my friends irish mom was full of wisdom..
“if you’re looking for sympathy,
it’s in the dictionary between s~~~ and syphilis ”
i would say ,
handling adversity is the best way to learn how to HANDLE ADVERSITY.
we all have to learn and grow..
i was a classic “late bloomer”..
………….depression is anger towards one self.
social programming can be strong.
learn my friend ..LEARN ..
so much to learn in life..
art
science
math
technology
cooking
conversation skills
there are great books, literature filled with wisdom..
never any reason to be bored.
fill your time with the pursuit of understanding the world around you…
and you begin to understand yourself.
don’t kick your own ass.
be kind to yourself.

[Jack123Participant 324]

Bob__

I respect your racist views on Jewish people. Freedom of speech right?

Perhaps you’re in the wrong forum.

Consider a KKK or Neo-Nazi, skin head forum? You can “White-power, F~~~-yea America woot woot!” all day long on there.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

bob__ wrote:

Depression is a “disease” made up by Jewish psychiatrists. The goal of “treatment” is to make you conform to Jewish standards. These people call you sick if you don’t live the way you’re expected to.

I agree thats totally f~~~ed , so we can strike the “jewish” / religion part out, but fabricated diagnoses are rampant, and the world can do without most “psychologists” who bill $225 an hour to pretend someone has “ADHD” when they can just learn to pay f~~~ing attention.

During WWII , nobody rejected a glass of milk because they were “lactose intolerant”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bob__Participant 946]

I am not saying anything racist. I am simply stating facts. That tribe totally dominates the media and psychiatry (and a few other important fields). So now it’s “racist” to tell the truth? You’ve bought into Jewish political correctness (i.e. censorship).

[AttonParticipant]

To grow beyond the validation of others, especially those of women is a true show of progress in your life. I must say should everything you say be true then you have made massive progress.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[DarkThunder30Participant 201]

Just remember most women spend their days when they are young and hot going for f~~~ boys. but when it finally comes time to settle down they end up alone or with a terrible guy that abuses them when they could have picked a better guy all along but ignored him They ruin it for themselves.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Society wants all men at each others throats. That’s one reason we always supposed to be in a relationship with women. A relationship with a woman today is like a house built on sand. Men stay friends without manipulation and backstabbing.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

MGTOW saves lives; its been proven time and again. That is why I stay even if its not the blissful paradise of Neverland.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

Thank you so much for all of your wisdom. I’m definitely bookmarking this forum for myself.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[Anonymous 54]

When i first saw this web site, where it says Mgtow is a lifstyle that refuses to defere to women in determining a Mans worth. BOOM !A light bulb went of in my head. That simple frase gave me a new life of mental freedom.

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