MGTOW: Journalists Still Don't Get It

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  • #470245
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    FunInTheSun
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    http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/03/what-james-jackson-reveals-about-mgtow-and-the-alt-right.html

    This news article makes me angry because it seems to be written for the purpose of selling sensationalism instead of addressing the important issues related to MGTOW. I have found no racism here nor any agenda that would exclusively benefit white people. This is a website made for MEN to discuss and inform themselves about issues that affect their lives. Why is that hard to believe? To me: this is a place for men to figure out the best way to live their lives while adapting to their particular insane societies—namely: pro-feminist societies that proudly vilify men. This is a social phenomenon that affects men all over the world—in every nation! MGTOW can be a lonely journey for each individual. It is a journey toward peace and prosperity for many of us—with pitfalls to avoid along the way (such as: marriage or forced fatherhood).

    We’re not all the same, but we have common ideas. David Futrelle (the author of the article) doesn’t get it, or at least he half gets it. The problem is: he doesn’t do enough research to back up his claims. As long as these online newspapers/magazines can cash in on ad revenue, they could care less about factual information. It’s supermarket tabloid news that triggers people’s emotions. The general public will remain misinformed when they read articles like this. And the social justice retards may try to use their governments to censor us because they believe we’re a hate group.

    If journalists really cared about educating the public, and publishing articles of interest, they could INTERVIEW men who are going their own way. It’s a novel idea that’s worth a try.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #470259
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    Blade
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    F~~~ been interviewed by anyone . They do and will write a negative view because it is opposite to what they percieve as social norms . Never ever beleave a journalist will write the truth outside of social norms . I have experienced this in real life .

    THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

    #470261
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    Constantine
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    The problem is: he doesn’t do enough research to back up his claims.

    They never need to. In a society that thrives on fear-mongering, nothing has to be accurate. Feminism itself is built on lies, and as long as they have the power to make people tremble beneath them, idiots like him will go along with it.

    I once read an article which claimed that Ian McKellen came out in 2012 on an episode of Anderson Cooper. That is so blatantly wrong. Did they even try? And nobody in the comments section pointed that out. That should tell you something about journalism now. Not only do they have the freedom to get things wrong, they can get them so outrageously wrong and few people tend to call them out on it.

    To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

    #470266
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    Joetech
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    Futrelle has a bad rap with me which is why I don’t read his articles. Mainstream media is too geared toward women for me to bother with it. Investigative journalism died decades ago with the advent of reality TV. Today’s youtube videos are too often a monologue with no redeeming visuals to engage the viewer. The internet discussion is riddled with articles and videos that tell only one side of an issue. When the mainstream media starts shaming people who make false allegations, and start demanding changes in our court systems that target bias and corruption, that’s when MGTOW will be revealed for what it truly is. Until then, we’re going to be labeled and ridiculed by the other side, and the issues will continue to be polarized. More reasons to go your own way and leave the dialogue behind along with the non-sensical attitude society has developed.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #470272
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    Sidecar
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    Fake news is fake, not news.

    1. Journalists can’t afford to be honest about MGTOW. Speaking the truth would lose them income from their target audience, which is not MGTOW.

    2. Since when have journalists given a f~~~ about the truth anyways?

    #470276
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    Anonymous
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    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    The left is full of a bunch of feminists who think I’m an evil piece of s~~~ just because I was born with a penis.

    The right is full of a bunch of tradcons who think it’s my duty to “wife up” and play the role of the diaposable male because “that’s what a man is supposed to do”.

    BOTH SIDES CAN KISS MY F~~~ING ASS!

    I’m not here to be used as a walking ATM machine, and I’m not here to have my body get used as a bullet catcher to serve the agenda of some government that clearly doesn’t give a f~~~ about me, and thinks that the only purpose of my existence is for me to be used as a disposable utility for its benefit, or for the benefit of women. F~~~ THAT S~~~!

    Also, pretty funny how these f~~~ers are trying to tell non-whites “Oh, those MGTOW guys are a bunch of racists! You’re much better off here on the plantation playing the role of the disposable male!”

    Come the f~~~ on! Any man that falls for that tactic is a moron who will get what he deserves!

    I’m on the same side that I’m always on: MY SIDE, MOTHERF~~~ERS!

    #470278
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    Chir
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    David Futrelle is not a journalist. He is a hack, pedo apologist. mangina, cuck. (did I get all 4? Yup.)

    He is the blogger at We Hunted the Manboobs.. Skim the site and you can see the high quality *puke* writing he is capable of.

    He has a hate on for MGTOW and goes through insane mental magical thinking to come up with reasons to blame everything on anything MRA or MGTOW. So it was no surprise that he pretzel twisted it to cover his narrative.

    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

    #470284
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    FunInTheSun
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    2. Since when have journalists given a f~~~ about the truth anyways?

    There used to be a time, in the 20th Century, when journalists (the legitimate ones who wrote for newspapers) would actually do some research, conduct interviews, and gather up evidence before writing their articles. They used the standards they learned in college.

    What we have today: internet blogs and cable TV news. These are shameful mediums for any aspiring journalist.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #470291
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    Trapper
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    I’m starting to think they actually DO get it. They know perfectly well what a MGHOW is. They can’t afford for it to continue.

    This is a smear campaign, not a search for the truth. The seriousness of the charge is more important than the truth.

    -“How do we stop people from going their own way? It actually sounds logical and way better than my marriage?

    “What do people hate?”

    “Racists?”

    “Yeah! Call them racists and people will run away. Nobody will WANT to be called a MGTOW!”

    “What about the people on the forums from Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan, India…they have every race on those forums!”

    “Just call them racists and nobody will see past it.”

    #470304
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    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    Its about putting us in a “group” so it creates a easier target as well as painting the narrative however they please. Its pretty hard to throw strikes at moving, individual, free thinking ,targets. I also think they are trying to label us to create a buffer from those who may not favor those said groups (Alt right,Left) so they wont favor MGTOW. What they dont understand is when you understand MGTOW philosophy a light bulb goes on and this happens..one by one this is what they see

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #470358
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    Buller100
    Buller100
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    Most men are unable to understand it, most are unable to think about it as it is almost an attack on their life long goals and desires, I have spoken to a friend who has married 3 times and lost so much money, he is now 58 and has to watch how he lives.

    He accepts you can lose thousands with women and asks what choice ?

    Some men do not have the intelligence or are prepared to self inspect and admit they are were being conned were.

    A journo in the main will not want to write anything other than PC or they lose work, so they see nil benefits and will never be open minded.

    #470366
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    Sandancer37
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    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    The left is full of a bunch of feminists who think I’m an evil piece of s~~~ just because I was born with a penis.

    The right is full of a bunch of tradcons who think it’s my duty to “wife up” and play the role of the diaposable male because “that’s what a man is supposed to do”.

    BOTH SIDES CAN KISS MY F~~~ING ASS!

    I’m not here to be used as a walking ATM machine, and I’m not here to have my body get used as a bullet catcher to serve the agenda of some government that clearly doesn’t give a f~~~ about me, and thinks that the only purpose of my existence is for me to be used as a disposable utility for its benefit, or for the benefit of women. F~~~ THAT S~~~!

    Also, pretty funny how these f~~~ers are trying to tell non-whites “Oh, those MGTOW guys are a bunch of racists! You’re much better off here on the plantation playing the role of the disposable male!”

    Come the f~~~ on! Any man that falls for that tactic is a moron who will get what he deserves!

    I’m on the same side that I’m always on: MY SIDE, MOTHERF~~~ERS!

    100% spot on, the sheer and utter lunacy of both sides never ceases to amaze me. I live my life as I see fit !!

    #470440
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    Awakened
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    This CRAP is out there EVERY DAY.

    IGNORING it, and doing Whatever the F~~~ that YOU want to do is a better way to Spend YOUR TIME !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #470444
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    Stormtrooper
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    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    The left is full of a bunch of feminists who think I’m an evil piece of s~~~ just because I was born with a penis.

    The right is full of a bunch of tradcons who think it’s my duty to “wife up” and play the role of the diaposable male because “that’s what a man is supposed to do”.

    BOTH SIDES CAN KISS MY F~~~ING ASS!

    I’m not here to be used as a walking ATM machine, and I’m not here to have my body get used as a bullet catcher to serve the agenda of some government that clearly doesn’t give a f~~~ about me, and thinks that the only purpose of my existence is for me to be used as a disposable utility for its benefit, or for the benefit of women. F~~~ THAT S~~~!

    Also, pretty funny how these f~~~ers are trying to tell non-whites “Oh, those MGTOW guys are a bunch of racists! You’re much better off here on the plantation playing the role of the disposable male!”

    Come the f~~~ on! Any man that falls for that tactic is a moron who will get what he deserves!

    I’m on the same side that I’m always on: MY SIDE, MOTHERF~~~ERS!

    Funny enough before I came to the site I heard it was full of alt-right types, but that backfired on them because I got curious if that was true and checked it out, I don’t see any racism or overtly political stances (if you want to talk politics there’s a whole section in the forums, but you can ignore that at your leisure.)

    Having a girlfriend is like owning a gun, the longer your around it, the more you want to shoot it.

    #470454
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    MGTOW Knight
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    The left is full of a bunch of feminists who think I’m an evil piece of s~~~ just because I was born with a penis.

    The right is full of a bunch of tradcons who think it’s my duty to “wife up” and play the role of the diaposable male because “that’s what a man is supposed to do”.

    BOTH SIDES CAN KISS MY F~~~ING ASS!

    Dude this is spot on man! I lean more right ever since the left became too f~~~ing crazy. I used to be more moderate (fiscally conservative & socially liberal), but these looneys on the left are too bonkers for my sanity. Tradcons are traditionalist who are stuck in the past, and can’t see that society isn’t like it was in the early to mid 1900’s. I also saw an article where they were insinuating that all MGTOW’s were alt-right. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Just fake news doing what it does best: making fake news.

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

    #470460
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    Sandancer37
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    The left is full of a bunch of feminists who think I’m an evil piece of s~~~ just because I was born with a penis.

    The right is full of a bunch of tradcons who think it’s my duty to “wife up” and play the role of the diaposable male because “that’s what a man is supposed to do”.

    BOTH SIDES CAN KISS MY F~~~ING ASS!

    Dude this is spot on man! I lean more right ever since the left became too f~~~ing crazy. I used to be more moderate (fiscally conservative & socially liberal), but these looneys on the left are too bonkers for my sanity. Tradcons are traditionalist who are stuck in the past, and can’t see that society isn’t like it was in the early to mid 1900’s. I also saw an article where they were insinuating that all MGTOW’s were alt-right. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Just fake news doing what it does best: making fake news.

    It’s totally spot on, I prefer to use what I call Common Sense and my own set of principles which I live my life by, Common Sense when it comes to politics, take a bit from each side and use your own Common Sense, don’t be a t~~~, be polite and courteous to people and always be there for your mates it’s worked well for me this far.

    #470462
    MGTOW Knight
    MGTOW Knight
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    Common Sense

    Yeah the sad reality is that most people don’t have this. “Common” sense isn’t even all that common.

    Funny enough before I came to the site I heard it was full of alt-right types, but that backfired on them because I got curious if that was true and checked it out, I don’t see any racism or overtly political stances (if you want to talk politics there’s a whole section in the forums, but you can ignore that at your leisure.)

    I have found that most men on this site are actually pretty reasonable with sound logic. Sure there may be outliers with any group, but we MGTOW’s are just about our autonomy, and self-preservation. Nothing sexist about it.

    “What do people hate?”

    “Racists?”

    “Yeah! Call them racists and people will run away. Nobody will WANT to be called a MGTOW!”

    Yep it is just an attempt to stiffle freedom of expression. Being plastered as a racist can mean anything now. Racism has truly lost its meaning.

    Trump Supporter? You are a racist.
    Climate Change Denier? You are a racist.
    Chromosomes determine sex? Well you are a racist, sexist, and a misogynist.

    These labels don’t mean s~~~ anymore. Due to their ubiquitous use, the severity of these “thought” crimes diminishes the actuality of these labels applying.

    Just like the boy who cried wolf, eventually people don’t give a f~~~ about want nonsense you want to accuse them of or say. People will ignore them.

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

    #470466
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    This news article makes me angry because it seems to be written for the purpose of selling sensationalism

    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    On Saturday – for most of the day – Our website (mgtow.com) had an altercation with some guy who previously poked and provoked MGTOW, and the Mayor-of-MGTOWN slammed him on youtube. He had a BIG beef with “the Mayor”, and took it out on us. We had nothing to do with anything.

    I won’t bore you with the details, but he is an “activist” on some whacked political bent, who he had this completely skewed idea of MGTOW and he went on paragraphs about “What MGTOW stands for” v.s. “what HE stands for” ……

    …. until we finally said “you picked a perfectly fine Saturday to start a land war with someone you never met, never asked questions of, never interacted with and fabricated all kinds of s~~~ in your head. Have you ever thought of just SHUTTING THE F~~~ UP??? Didn’t anyone ever teach you how to shut the f~~~ up and never discuss politics with anyone?? Because no matter what side you’re on, you’re ALWAYS going to pay for that mistake. You’re setting out to create a conflict.”

    We had to actually explain the art of knowing when to “fight” — and when not to.

    The point we made was — >> When anyone asks about your political leanings and wants to pigeon hole you into one or the other….. leave them guessing. That’s when a MGHOW might say “voting is just giving consent to being governed”. You don’t even permit them to go there.

    Now you’re not “right” – OR “left”.

    Now they got nothing. And neither did he. He was all out of ammunition. We yanked the figurative gun from his hand and told him to try and enjoy the weekend.

    Finally he stopped. He finally got it.
    There was nothing left.

    He said this whole MGTOW ordeal on youtube and the comment war (he started!) really upset his emotional state and well being. Well guess what buddy, YOUR OWN WIFE can turn your life upside down a hell of a lot more than any youtube comments ever will. That’s a goddam guarantee.

    ———

    This New York Mag / David Futrelle f~~~~~ry is easy to understand and this was already pulled apart here.

    /forums/topic/anatomy-of-an-anti-mgtow-hit-piece/

    They just wanna hate because MGTOW are smarter than they are.

    • David Futrelle hates MGTOW because MGTOW has exploded into the stratosphere and shim has slipped into irrelevance…. even further behind AVFM who shim attempted to mock.

    • New York Magazine hates MGTOW because we exposed the scams and frauds they endorse. New York Magazine called a woman a “hero” for scamming her boyfriend into buying her 20 new iPhone 7s and said it was “A truly brilliant maneuver”.

    • AVFM (vs. “PIGTOW”)
    • Reggie Yates / The BBC
    • Alexandra Blue
    • GAWKER
    • David Puketrelle
    • The C~~~ington Post
    • That asshole from Saturday

    They all have something in common. They set out to create a conflict. They lost, and inadvertently tumbled to their own ego deaths.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #470467
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    MGTOW Knight
    MGTOW Knight
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    They just wanna hate. because MGTOW are smarter than they are.

    The hate us, cause the ain’t us.

    Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

    #470474
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    What is with this obsession with having to paint us as having to be on the right or the left?

    Hey just curious……

    If I believe marriage is for gays, am I “alt-right”?

    lolz

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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