MGTOW Is Turning Into Feminism And How I Surpassed The MGTOW Mindset

[Anonymous 0]

Introduction

I had already made several posts in the past about the slow decay of the MGTOW community and why it is turning into feminism for men and why I have decided to no longer use the label anymore. Those of you that do not take my advice into consideration are bound to become the very evil that they have been fighting against.

I am already currently aware that the current MGTOW mindset is in a state of decay due to the fact that I will received the negativity that I clearly deserve due to the fact of what I am saying is solemnly true. This is a warning to all current MGTOW and potential MGTOW of the current s~~~-storm of what is currently up ahead about he future of MGTOW and what to to expect,so here we go.

Summary

The MGTOW philosophy and mindset was originally designed as a way for a man to consider and prioritize ownership and prioritize himself above all else. Choosing your own path in life,with your own decisions and assets. As clearly stated and defined on this very website.

M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.

Like all good ideas they can be ruined by horrible people and the MGTOW philosophy is no exception either. The biggest problem with the MGTOW community is our ability to remain anonymous at the same time voice our concerns and opinions without being silenced by others with little or no consequence. The benefits of being a MGTOW also comes with certain drawbacks as well that anyone and everyone can hide behind a mask and cause disarray,defamation and destruction and put the the group under a bad light and give others the wrong idea based on their actions and opinions alone.

Because much like feminism a radicalized majority can voice their opinions much more loudly than the rational minority. The MGTOW community’s biggest weakness is due to the fact that anyone can wear the label of being a MGTOW without ever truly acting like one. Because a lot of butthurt manginas,angry PUA’s,vengeful MRA’s and including the rabid pro-feminists are just as capable of re-directing and hijacking the MGTOW philosophy into a completely different direction than what was originally intended for their own ends.

Because of the anonymity and identity anyone can label themselves as a MGTOW without any way of distinguishing between for example an angry mangina in a red-pill rage and a pro-male-feminist trying to defame or slander the MGTOW label.

My biggest concern of them all if the fact that anyone can use the MGTOW label as the latest popular trend instead of actually taking part of the philosophy in an authentic and responsible manner.

The biggest excuse I hear are other so-called MGTOW saying that they are simply “going to their own way” much like how a pro-atheist proclaims that he doesn’t allow religion to take control over his life meanwhile he is investing a large portion of his life making hate videos attacking religious people almost every day religiously which is rather ironic in a similar way.

A lot of MGTOW channels spend a large portion of their time making hate and rant videos about women and Sandman is no exception either that they are in fact NOT going their own way and are simply spending too much of their time complaining about women and the dangers of women meanwhile doing everything else but taking the proper action to actually be productive for yourself and investing your time,skills and assets wisely.

Meanwhile true MGTOW that are truly going their own way are not wasting their precious time ranking up points on who can be the loudest and whiniest of the group. You all know who you are. Because anyone higher than a triple digit has clearly spent too much of their time here on the forums and not spending their time on more productive activities.

How MGTOW (Meninism) and Feminism Becoming Alike

Because writing a very lengthy paragraph to explain how MGTOW and Feminism are very much alike. I decided to source some good sources to present to those that are legitimately interested in doing so.

Too many self-proclaimed MGTOW misusing the term for their own ends.
I’m Not MGTOW Anymore

TFM made an attempt to prevent confusion between the two and failed at doing so.
MGTOW is Feminism For Men?

How MGTOW is slowly starting to become radicalized.
Last Video About MGTOW

Here are some comparisons why of why MGTOW and Feminism are slowly becoming alike.
There Is No Promise Land

In Conclusion…

I have ascended above MGTOW and have taken the much superior pill of the two: The Golden Pill. Because not only was I able to see myself and through my surroundings I was able to see myself within myself rationally and critically surpass my red-pill counterparts further than they ever could and I expect but only a few others to do the same.

Goodbye MGTOW it was a good philosophy while it lasted but like all good things they never to truly last. Now I can finally honestly go my own way…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I had already made several posts in the past about the slow decay of the MGTOW community and why it is turning into feminism for men. The MGTOW community’s biggest weakness is due to the fact that anyone can wear the label of being a MGTOW without ever truly acting like one.

No they can not. You speak of Sandman on youtube as an EXAMPLE? He’s one blow job away from complete mangina. It didn’t work out with one girlfriend he’d had for 9 years, but if it did, there would be no “Sandman”. Any MORON can make a youtube video, and slap a MGTOW label on it, throw some chicken in a pot of warm p~~~ and call it “MGTOW Chicken Soup” if he wants…. just like a feminist can make a video about how all men should be killed off or sent to concentration camps.

That’s one thing you’ve never seen a MGHOW do.

MGTOW is bigger than any one man or any 100 s~~~ty videos and it’s been around for centuries. It does not take the shape of the container it is in – like Sandman does. It is not vaporous and is completely tangible. It is unwavering and rock solid as far back as Tesla, Schopenhauer, Galileo and even Jesus Christ if you’re up to arguing that.

These are the very “legends” you speak about on your profile. And now you’re pretending it’s a flash-in-the-pan dying fad and fleeting thought?

MGTOW is fire. Feminism is gasoline.

Fire always exists, even when you can’t see it. It’s also anonymous. You need a match, spark or lightning to see it, but it’s very real and true. Fire is fire. It does not change, or go out of style, or depend on a personal opinion. It is impossible to agree – or disagree – with.

“The truth can wait, for it lives a long time”.
– Schopenhauer

MGTOW is not built on a foundation of lies (like feminism) and is not even a “philosophy” that relies on your acceptance or subscription to exist. It’s a lifestyle choice entirely grounded in reality and has existed in the hearts of men for centuries. This is just V.2016.

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW is Feminism For Men?

“MGTOW is feminism for men”… question mark?

No. It’s on the about page. MGTOW is common sense for men.
… which isn’t all that common as anyone can plainly see.

Anonymous wrote:

Goodbye MGTOW it was a good philosophy while it lasted but like all good things they never truly last.

You sure about that?

Leave your MGTOW card on the desk and we wish you a pleasant weekend.

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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 6]

Great reply Keymaster..sounds like a chick wrote the IP anyway.

Dolla

[GambitParticipant 178]

You can take whatever damn pill you please. However, making false claims that “MGTOW is feminism for men” is just plain retarded.

As @keymaster said, it’s common sense for men. Even manginas now a days are avoiding marriage because they know they’ll get the short end of the stick. A lot of manginas are even avoiding family life altogether if only because of monetary issues.

Sure, anyone could slap a label of MGTOW on them. However, as a MGHOW, you should learn to not give a f~~~ and only entertain those who “Hijack” MGTOW like Sandman for entertainment purposes only.

Plus, I doubt MGTOW could become anything like feminism. Feminism is a cult. MGTOW is a way of life. You don’t see MGTOW trying to change laws where the court system will hurt women. Yet, you see feminists doing this every day in order to hurt men.

The main factor on how MGTOW and feminism differs is this:

MGTOW men don’t give a f~~~ about society or women.

Feminists ALWAYS give a f~~~ about society and men because they’re self entitled princessesc~~~s who are always out being attention whores.

MGTOW could never be like feminism because of this.

[chirParticipant]

You say you have taken the “golden pill” and have risen above being MGHOW. Yet you spend the time to come here say “tut, tut, bad men” then proceed to take a bowel movement on the forums to shame us with the proud result of your BM.

Truth be told, you sound more like a Feminist than anything else.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Anonymous 54]

Well spoken and restrained KM. I am less refined about being compared to a feminist.

[Anonymous 3]

@Under the Network,

As I am new in the site I would be normally be holding back in responding to your post. But since I am married at the moment, I would be one of those people you claim might be “use[ing] the MGTOW label as the latest popular trend instead of actually taking part of the philosophy in an authentic and responsible manner”.
That is why I will respond and state that it is you that fail to recognize the nature of MGTOW as I came to understand.

You would have MGTOW as an organization, based on a set of values and philosophies. And you would have “good soldiers” in this organization, following the party line, purging from the ranks people that would discredit the movement in the eyes of society.

Gallic and Germanic weaknesses
Against the fighting men from the legion, the Gauls, Iberians and Germanic forces faced a daunting task. The barbarians’ rudimentary organization and tactics fared poorly against the well-oiled machinery that was the Legion.

There is something to be said of organizations: they require a cause, command, hierarchy, loyalty, and spirit of sacrifice for the cause. They are require a war plan, a clear definition of the victory and means to achieve such victory.

You can see all these traits on feminism and this society in general. There IS A PLAN, we are just kept in the dark about it. There is a war and they are organized.

What I see in MGTOW is none of that.

Each of us are individually doing what we want. It is a movement only in a broad sense, but there is no real plan, no real goal, nothing other than “f~~~ this s~~~, I want to be by myself, and I will be happy”.

The “label” as you very well said is a weakness because it is going to be trashed by the ones that will not have this knowledge spread. And so what?
I do not take this banner as a replacement of any other banner, just to repeat the same mistakes that got me here in the first place!

I think you miss the point with all these posts and people that “spend a large portion of their time making hate and rant videos about women“.

There are 2 reasons why people make these “hate” posts and videos:

1) We are ANGRY and have the right to. We have been manipulated and defrauded in every possible way: mental, physical, economical, psychological and emotional. It is not easy to forgive and forget THAT LEVEL OF ABUSE.

2) When we where confused and beaten down, it was some of these videos and some of these posts that saved our life. It is only human and kind to repay the favor and spread the message to other men that are in pain right now.

It is said that “A Wolf can Survive Alone, but a Wolf Without a Pack is a Tortured Soul“.

None of us become MGTOW without metaphorically cutting one of our members. Man is a social animal. I had a dream for my family and for my life. MGTOW is what is left after the ashes of that dream.

MGTOW is a refuge. People are here because we have others that understand, others that we can talk to and be social in a way that is no longer possible elsewhere. Free speech, even free to be stupid just to be kicked in the but by fellow men. KICKED FOR HONEST REASONS, and not some bullish manipulation.

Yet you would want us to conform to the values of the society that you supposedly rejected with so much pain… Just for the sake of a label?

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

I KNEW IT. I KNEW YOU WOULD DO THIS.

We are NOT responsible for the actions of other men. We honestly don’t give a f~~~. Fake “MGTOW” are just like blue-pills, manginas, etc. We just ignore willful ignorance.

You’re no better than the people you claim to try to “guide”.

Meanwhile true MGTOW that are truly going their own way are not wasting their precious time ranking up points on who can be the loudest and whiniest of the group. You all know who you are. Because anyone higher than a triple digit has clearly spent too much of their time here on the forums and not spending their time on more productive activities.

Then why are you here, you whiny little f~~~~~. If you’re so “wise” and “acceded” and “golden” and “perfect”, you should have never needed us in the first place.

How about this. Tell a man who has just lost his house, everything he worked for, his children, and his job in a divorce he’s “whining” to his face. Bet you won’t, you wanna be precocious arrogant piece of s~~~.

No. You’re just jealous no-one upvotes your posts. It’s ok. You’re probably just jealous you weren’t born a full breasted blondie who gets 100 thousand like per photo. HAH.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Meanwhile true MGTOW that are truly going their own way are not wasting their precious time ranking up points on who can be the loudest and whiniest of the group. You all know who you are. Because anyone higher than a triple digit has clearly spent too much of their time here on the forums and not spending their time on more productive activities.

Since you think i’m wasting my time how about you come to Toronto and we can have a sparring match. I’ll make you whine a little bitch that you are. LOL
Really? I have put a lot of miles on my bike. I have over 100 000 kilometers on my mountain bike can you say the same?

If we’re wasting our time it’s clear you’re wasting your own time.

You really have no clue right? Us MGTOW know about the bankers who funded feminism. Us MGTOW knows about the economy collapse that’s coming. I have done a lot of research on health, science and continue to learn. You are truly clueless about MGTOW men because you’re not really a man.

woosh

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Unlike feminism, Mgtow is not supported by tax dollars nor the government and the philosophy is not forced down anyone’s throat.

To equate mgtow with feminism is incorrect and outright stupid!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Well spoken and restrained KM. I am less refined about being compared to a feminist.

Have seen it said often and I’m numb to it now because it can be torn down so easily. They know it too. It’s just a last bit of ammunition they have.

There is no such thing as a “Misogyny” jewelry store for men.

Let them tell us again how MGTOW is “feminism for men” again.
Could use a good laugh.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

If you are worried about what other mgtow are doing…then you never really got the concept possibly

Nailed it.

[AscendedParticipant 698]

I can relate to The Under Network and I feel pretty much the same.
I wish him the best in the future and I’m sure he would be welcome anytime if he returns. He has got all my respect.

I would have made my own thread about this but I currently lack in time and the ambition to do so. I am a MGHOW but in no such extend as a fair amount seems like.

"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."

[AscendedParticipant 698]

Jackinov wrote:

Then why are you here, you whiny little f~~~~~. If you’re so “wise” and “acceded” and “golden” and “perfect”, you should have never needed us in the first place.

This is exactly what The Under Network has meant regarding how MGTOW “came to an end” like all good things ever.

Anonymous wrote:

Meanwhile true MGTOW that are truly going their own way are not wasting their precious time ranking up points on who can be the loudest and whiniest of the group.

"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

I have ascended above MGTOW and have taken the much superior pill of the two: The Golden Pill. Because not only was I able to see myself and through my surroundings I was able to see myself within myself rationally and critically surpass my red-pill counterparts further than they ever could and I expect but only a few others to do the same.

Goodbye MGTOW it was a good philosophy while it lasted but like all good things they never to truly last. Now I can finally honestly go my own way…

Congratulations, Buddha !

Now you can float away into nirvana and take your sense of superiority with you. I really don’t care what Sandman or some other person on YouTube says. If you use YT videos as a gauge to measure anything, then you are already beyond help.

Now pat yourself on the back, you special little snowflake.

Frank V.

[UntamedParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Leave your MGTOW card on the desk and we wish you a pleasant weekend.

@The Under Network I will not be as polite and fairplay as our distinguished KeyMaster, although his answer to you will remain gold and unequaled, but I, on the other hand, flushed my respect for s~~~ down the toilet a long time ago and I am neither distinguished or fairplay, although as unequaled in my rage as KeyMaster is in his wisdom.
Your post stinks to high heaven.
It stinks of pretense.
It stinks of ignorance.
It stinks of jealousy.
It stinks of disinformation and attention whoring. You are lucky we’re not hanging out at a bar shooting the s~~~ over beer because the last things you’ll see after such moronic statements would be a table and four chairs smashed to bits over your dense pretentious head!
You are the sort of uninformed sheep who cause my blood pressure to shoot through the roof simply with your utter disregard for your own bulls~~~ and self-aggrandizement which you call Gold Pill.
You haven’t gone beyond MGTOW at all, you’ve dragged yourself further into the mud that you were before joining this great website.
You make idiotic sweeping statements about the members of this place without knowing who we are and what we’re about, without even a second of reflection and on ounce of common sense. Are you even capable of reflecting over your own blinding fallacies?
Go back to Facebook, that’s where you belong because you might have a couple of nuts between your legs but you clearly have the mind of a C~~~.
It is clear you haven’t taken the time to inform yourself about MGTOW otherwise you would not compare MGTOW to a movement and even less to feminism and if you did you haven’t understood a single MGTOW concept besides the one that says you’re free to go f~~~ yourself somewhere else!

I consider this a C~~~ Punt.
This place is for Men ONLY, not little bitches who whine about the amount of some stars someone may have accumulated and some video on YouTube.
And as far as spending too much time on this website I’ll tell you something else. mgtow.com isn’t some simple online Forum where ego is stroked and lies polished. It saves lives and pulls Men up above the morass that the internet has become.
First thing I do coming home from work is log in to this internet gem. Not because I have no other thing to do but because my time is worth money and I’d rather spend it in the company of my true brothers than in the company of some f~~~ing C~~~ or backstabbing mangina or White Knight asshole.
So go ahead and leave – better yet – get the f~~~ out!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Let’s cut the crap down (99.99% of the OP’s post), I have a question:

Me getting an education and eating breakfast in peace is feminism now somehow?

Ascended wrote:

This is exactly what The Under Network has meant regarding how MGTOW “came to an end” like all good things ever.

Hilarious. Last time I checked REALITY, I will go do my own things while Im alive. Later.

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[UntamedParticipant]

Can we get a red pill rage indicator filter installed?
Then each post can be tagged and a brother can choose to filter out red pill rage content if he is post red pill.
Thoughts?

“THE MGTOW FORUMS ARE FOR REGISTERED RED-PILL MEN ONLY. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS…” Yeah, I’m sure I read that somewhere on this site!
What does it mean to be “Post Red-Pill”? That somehow you do not subscribe to the OUTRAGE that feminism and the Courts have wrought in the hearts of Men who’ve been deprived of a life lived with the children they love and the wife they did everything to please in order to live in the respect they’ve deserved?
What does it do to you to know that a brother has killed himself over a f~~~ing C~~~?
What does it do to you to know that millions of Men are living in squalor conditions or homeless or in prison because they were accused of a rape or assault they did not commit?
What does it do to you to know that hundreds upon hundreds of Men live and stay with abusive and violent wives for fear of losing their kids, business and lives or because they see no support forthcoming in their present condition?
What does it do to you?!

It makes me f~~~ing sick to my stomach, it revolts and p~~~es me off! It makes me sad, angry, desperate and awakens me to a world where Human Life is lower than that of a dog or an ant! YES I’m Red-Pill! Scarlet! Blood f~~~ing Red!

I met a guy last week in a metro station who asked me for a few coins so he could get something to eat. I told him I had none, that I mainly use my bank card and that I was sorry… I looked at him walk away and my soul cringed. I saw MYSELF in him and it was like I had turned my back against my own Self.
I called him back and told him that I was going downtown to buy a few things and since I was just leaving the hospital where I had done some tests and I needed to get something to eat to take my medications and that if he was inclined to join me I’d buy him anything he wished to eat.
I listened to his story while we ate and also shared mine. Two simple guys getting to know each other.
His story is just as revolting as mine. Jailed several times for things he did not do, cops had it in for him because his dad, a psychiatrist who worked in prison and who made sure the guys had decent treatment, had p~~~ed quite a few assholes up in the wrong places. He was beaten to confess to several arson, assaults, thrown in prison without a shred of evidence and lost the support of his family, lost his livelihood, his wife, his business, his cars and trucks – s~~~ he lost everything.

Beyond Red-Pill? F~~~ that! I will be beyond Red-Pill when I die or they kill me, whichever comes first!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

KM
Or anyone

Believe this belongs in the litter box??

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

I feel triggered! Where is my nearest safe space?

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

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