MGTOW is GOD mode

[WanderingMGTOWParticipant 288]

I’ve been looking for a place to share some of my longer MGTOW related thoughts, and thought maybe I’d give this a try vs creating my own blog. This is not the only place I’ve posted this.
If this is well received, I’ll write/share more. Constructive feedback is always welcome.

Quick bio: I was married for several yrs, I was miserable, lonely in my marriage, gave her a lot, she cheated, I lost half, I found MGTOW, wasted time dating for a while – got stomped on a lot – you know the drill. See my intro for more if you really want, but my story isn’t special.

If you are a long time MGTOW, ninja level guru-master, this post is not going to teach you anything you don’t know, but if you’re newer, I hope I inspire you in some way. Enjoy.

When first divorced, I spent a lot of time on sosuave and other MGTOW sites. Often in my travels, I’ve heard that once you take the red pill and understand female nature, this is like the cheat code to life, and while sure, that will help you smash more puss, or possibly avoid certain problems (Pence-protocol), or understand why she left you for Chad, etc. but that won’t make your life much better in the long run. Opting out of co-habitation, and marriage most certainly will.

So if understanding female nature is the cheat code, then gentlemen, avoiding women + MGTOW is GOD mode for your life, at least once you actualize & implement it.

How does actualizing it work?
Stop structuring your life around attracting, chasing and retaining women. If you adopt minimalism or better yet “enuffism” – this is where the benefits really kick in.

Why is that?

Time – Money – Your space – Sleep – Hobbies.

You can make much less money and live well. This means you do not have to live in busy, expensive, booming cities hoping to find a mate. (Unless big cities are your thing – more power to you – its YOUR choice gentlemen.) You can find much lower cost of living elsewhere. Maybe you can even become a digital nomad and live out of your backpack or RV.

You don’t need that expensive house in the burbs – you can live close to work in a much smaller place.

It didn’t happen over night but I have several properties, one on a lake and almost no debt.

Speaking of work, you could get a good paying trade job and avoid college and massive debt. Being a plumber can be a really good living. I know several.
Being a pipe-fitter/welder and travelling/working in camps can pay really well.

You can get away working so much less if you want, or maybe by being an entrepreneur, or taking a less busy or stressful job.

Like to chase money?

No problem – me too. You can increase your risk – you are probably too conservative anyway – and make a lot more or lose it and start again until you get it right. You’d be surprised how little that you need to survive.
Or work a lot and learn a lot. Put your time in and get noticed. Not getting noticed? Find a new job. Now. Even if you have to move across the county. Do it. I went almost a year on the road for one company, without living expenses and visited many different places, it was great. Its hard to find people who will travel a lot. This alone can put you ahead of the pack. Being MGTOW you can easily do this.

I actually do both, I work a lot (and through creativity) have ridiculously low living expenses.

You can eat what you want. Go Palaeo or Keto – I’ve tried both and love them. I prefer Keto. How about you? There are plenty of simps out there who are quasi vegetarian b/c they are dating a vegan. Vegans are clueless about the world & health. We are omnivores for a reason.

Sleep is much better. Sure cuddling and sex can be fun. How much sex for how long did you ahve after you were married. Know what else is fun? Not listening to someone’s snoring or being jostled by them tossing ‘n turning in your bed. Dropping a 45 second 4 octave beer fart because you feel like it. Nobody to bitch at you when you’re in bed alone.

Like to spread out? Giv’r mate. Take all the covers. Toss ‘n turn all you want. If you wake up in the night put on some calming music or MGTOW vids. No problem – no couch for you bud. No arguments about who’s sleeping in the wet spot for you either.

Keep the temp where YOU like it, hot or cold.

Sleep on your own schedule. I love to get up around 4:30 AM and get some solid work, writing and coffee in. I love to write, whenever I feel like it, for hours, with music, no headphones.

I don’t know about you but I hate obligations that aren’t about money or work – especially with family you don’t like (yours and hers), and public holidays – especially Xmas. Which for me is usually spent doing one of my hobbies (of which I have many mostly expensive ones like diving and flipping houses) followed by Chinese food and some beer. I almost always listen to Canadian MGTOW (youtube) who has a good vid or two on the subject of Xmas alone.

I almost always opt out of the long weekends everyone gets, no traffic and higher prices on hotels for this guy.

Valentines day? I grill a steak at home and/or get a massage.

Speaking of which, if you get the itch, take care of business or get a special-happy massage or I’m sure you can find a working girl who will trade time spent with you for money.

Did I mention hobbies? A few years ago I met a guy, my age who had 2 boys < 10. I asked him what he did for fun. He said nothing, his life was around raising his boys. When I talked about my life his eyes glazed over and he changed the subject. This happened with others too. Old friends talked about strollers and accessories, I talked about motorcycles and expensive vacations. Soon after, those “friends” stopped inviting me over.

Married men with kids (esp young ones) can’t afford hobbies. There wives won’t let them. One buddy’s wife bought the legit, Coach purse she’d always wanted. 2 months later it was a diaper bag. This guy didn’t believe in debt, so he worked his ass off putting in OT for that. Pre marriage he had a paid for house, a sports car and other toys. Post marriage – a s~~~ty big SUV, debt and expensive diaper bags.

Getting bored? Me too.
A few months ago I booked a next day plane ticket to a warm place, rented a sports car (that I beat up), and stayed in a $75/night hotel for a 3 day weekend. I soaked up the sun, hiked, drank beer, enjoyed and shopped for investment properties.

Speaking of vehicles, I drive the vehicle(s) I want. I have several of them. All paid for. None kid friendly.\

Vacations. Travelling by myself is great. I eat where I want, see what I want and do what I want. I hated my ex-wifes vacation ideas. I hated that anything that we did that was fun, had to become annual. Travelling alone I meet people, all the time.

Sure, sometimes I get lonely. I think it’d be great to have a supportive wife, regular sex, good meals. It’d be wonderful to come home from a business trip to a home cooked meal and a BJ.
Then, I think back to my marriage to my traditional wife, and I remember coming home to a messy house, no meal and no BJ. (Oh she was cheating with chad on our couch while I was away)
I remember weeks of rejection and sexless nights. I remember being the most lonely, sad, trapped, unhappy man, often drinking myself stupid to sleep.
I remember swimming in debt and having to constantly check my bank balance, shifting things around, not saving for my future, even though I made a lot of money. It was always gone. Today I have virtually no debt.

As Human in a recent youtube video said “Convince me to be married. Sell it to me. ”

To close it off, that fellas, is MGTOW for me. I’m not special. I’m not a genius. Anybody can do what I’ve done. Trust me, no matter what fairy tale you see re:family and women, alone is so much better.

[DBCooperParticipant 200]

Wow dude. You hit the nail on the head. Other than I do raise my daughter, I get 57% time for me. I do what I want. Cheers.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

DBCooper wrote:

I get 57% time for me

The big difference about your experience is that you didn’t have children. I was married twice. The first divorce, at 29, was easy breezy. We negotiated then attorneys got involved and I had to pay her 500.00 a month alimony for 4 years after a six year marriage and she signed a special form saying that she could never come after me for money in the future. Ever.

In my second marriage when my son was born my ex came down with severe “depression” (I hate babies kind). During the first three years I raised him alone. She didn’t see him.

Then we went to shared custody. I had 60/40 and it ate up my entire life.

Then my son chose his mother, moved in with her and I’ve seen him two weeks in the last 5 years.

I should have walked away and had your attitude. My son would still feel the same way he does now even if I hadn’t have wasted all those years trying to form a strong bonded relationship.

Conclusion: Don’t ever marry, but if you do, don’t give a woman your child.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[JVBParticipant]

Shortest sentence “I am”
Longest sentence “l do “

Peace is > piece.

[Anonymous 18]

Good informative post brother.

WanderingMGTOW wrote:

Go Palaeo or Keto – I’ve tried both and love them. I prefer Keto. How about you?

https://burnfatnotsugar.com

Keto & MGTOW = Avoiding women and sugar – both sweet at first, toxic in the short+long term.

[StealthParticipant 5381]

For our new readers, how would you summarize understanding female nature?
My first thoughts are juvenile narcissism and hypergamy.
These things don’t increase my ability to get laid; in fact, they motivate the shop to stay closed!
Throw in penis envy, competition/hatred for other women, lack of accountability or rationalism, & likely personality disorder or psych meds and I’d say we’re approaching a more complete picture of the average modern woman. Did I miss anything?

Your instant vacations and self-care sound great, but a person needs money to do it right. Post-divorce many guys lack exactly that. Investment property requires money too. On that topic, do you hire management companies remotely? Would be fun to own several places around the world and rotate every year to live in one and rent the others out. But remote management would be a difficulty.

I went the higher risk route and started my own business. In good years it’s good, but no income in bad years so saving and conservative total market index investing are good practices to go along with whatever you’re doing. I also got a side job in a warehouse. The plan is one day to subsist mostly off dividends and then do exactly as your post describes.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

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