MGTOW info card

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Friend of mine ghosts on here all the time. He started handing out these cards when he sees a potential opening to welcome a new brother…..he’s given me some and Im using them also.
If anyone has any ideas for variants or suggestions, he’s all ears.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Nice. I think that would be the very thing to help some guys at least find the their way. Good job man.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Anonymous 5]

It’s a terrific idea as long as he’s extremely careful about being anonymous.
Don’t ever get between a Blue Piller and his NAWALT fantasy, no matter how badly his latest Unicorn has f~~~ed him over.
Always remember the age old saying,,, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

I agree with the soft introduction of Sandman. He was the first set of videos that I ever watched. It all seems so Purple Pill now but perhaps I’d have rejected the reality of male/female dynamics as too extreme if I’d been confronted with the hard core toxic truth from the first video. Just for the record, I rejected about 60% of “The Manipulated Man” when I first read it. Over the next 6 or 12 months I realised, point by point, the terrible truth. I’ve never stopped seeing the truth all around me ever since.
Another confession, I believed a good proportion of women were NAWALT even up to 6 months or so after joining MGTOW.COM.
It’s not a matter of intelligence or even experience in most cases, it’s a matter of how deeply you believe in the NAWALT fallacy.

India needs no help from online MGTOWS. It’s the second largest demographic of MGTOW’s worldwide. The Indian government and judicial system are already doing a wonderful job of educating men about how discriminated and disposable they are.
Section 498A law would have to be the most horrific legal weapon used against men in the world. This is just one of many insane Indian laws that give women immense power of destruction over men, simply by making an accusation.
It’s surprising that any men in India are still signing marriage contracts.

[Anonymous 12]

He could replace the sandman youtube link by a QR code, a QR code can quickly be red by a smartphone camera, dropped into an application, and then instantly bring up the video in question.
more of this – also “sovereignty” and the definition.
keep the messages as basic and neutral as possible.

and tell your man to stay incognito – otherwise others will interfere with his path and bring drama to his life.

good idea, be careful.

[sidecarParticipant 35854]

The link is to the mobile youtube site, not the desktop version. It would be better to use a youtu.be link anyways, especially to make it as short a link as possible for a QR code.

There are also better quotes. For that matter don’t just mention the game is rigged. Let them know there’s still a way to win.

“When the game is rigged, there is only one way to beat the house. And the game is definitely rigged.”

Or something to that effect.

Also f~~~ sandman. There are better introduction to MGTOW videos.

[Anonymous 12]

Sandman or Popp?
Coke or Tequila shot?
E-bile or Harley?
Red pill powder or a complete Pill?

none is right, both are a step in the right direction.

[sidecarParticipant 35854]

Anonymous wrote:

Sandman or Popp?

Popp never sold out mgtow for cheap page views. Ask @keymaster about sandman some time. Or search this site for “sandman is down”.

[JVBParticipant]

Dig it

Peace is > piece.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

As horrible as things have become for men in the US, Britain and Australia, I’m absolutely shocked at some of the stuff that I have heard happening in India.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

The quote is too long. The card needs to be punchy and to the point. I think both sides should have QR codes. The front is just a QR code to this site with a very short statement. Something like “The game is rigged, the dealer cheats, just walk away.” The back should link to Popp instead of Sandman.

First, Popp is outspoken as a comedy channel. You get that soft, plausible, “It’s just a joke” veneer over the truth that makes it easier to swallow. Second, Popp shows his face but isn’t actually a MGTOW. People are more accepting of a message, even if they appear to initially reject it, when there is a face that they can socially engage with. All those non-verbal social signals that let you know you’re dealing with a person who can understand you.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Anonymous 3]

Good idea, but one really needs to think twice, to whom this information is given.

There are blue-pilled men, who are not yet ready to accept the information. (and,some people never learn, even if there were bad experiences in their lives…)

There may be some, who feel like “successful” in a blue-pill way, and might go full white-knight in order to defend their illusion of love no matter what.

How do we identify someone, who is in the life situation when he can accept the uncomfortable truth?

Even if someone is “heartbroken” (and was that many times), he may still have some hope in that “love” lies. He may still be thinking that he is an incel, rejected by the women, and feeling bad about it, or he may be thinking on the Pua way, that “improving himself” will get him laid. (fact: improving yourself will help in solving many life problems and career stuff, but will only make one “good enough” for some bitchy landwhales, I experienced so.)

One needs to totally lose hope in “love”, start making uncomfortable questions about life , and then realize, that love is bulls~~~.

Realize, that relationships won’t make him happy, but the opposite.

Realize, he just needs peace of mind to be okay.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

My suggestion, don’t put that youtube URL like this.

Shorten it with a service that accepts you to use some custom url (So is easier to type if you are using a cellphone)

OR

Add a QR code for the URL (so is easier to open, just scan it)

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

My inner evil would be to make QR code labels and casually leave them at eye level above a urinal/ or toilet stall. Also bus shelters. I like Popp a lot- he makes on point videos and never takes himself seriously. Blake is a really cool dude too!

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[sidecarParticipant 35854]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

Popp shows his face but isn’t actually a MGTOW.

The hell he isn’t.

Is he going to get married again? No.
Is he going to let some slore movie in with him? No.
Is he going to have any more kids? No.

Popp’s a MGHOW. He just had to learn his lessons the hard way.

Solid wrote:

Shorten it with a service that accepts you to use some custom url (So is easier to type if you are using a cellphone)

That’s pretty much what youtu.be is for. Also for mgtow.com use all caps and leave out the www for the oldest version, simplest, and smallest QR encoding possible.

I’d post an ASCII version here, but the forums don’t support the code tag, so it would just look like a bunch of octothorpes.

[Anonymous 12]

sidecar wrote:

g-mow wrote:

Sandman or Popp?

Popp never sold out mgtow for cheap page views. Ask @keymaster about sandman some time. Or search this site for “sandman is down”.

I see what you mean, and i partially agree.
Sandy is more of a Business man that he might be willing to admit publicly.
And i personally see him as “fast food” – for someone looking for a Mgtow Snickers bar.
Noob stuff. Entry level listening for the one who just woke up.

But still, he has a role and serves a purpose, if you know what i mean.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

Popp shows his face but isn’t actually a MGTOW.

The hell he isn’t.
Is he going to get married again? No.Is he going to let some slore movie in with him? No.Is he going to have any more kids? No.
Popp’s a MGHOW. He just had to learn his lessons the hard way

I know he is. You know he is. He follows the only rules we have. But he doesn’t say he is. He doesn’t use the label. He’s just a YouTube comedian, and that makes all the difference for public perception.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Anonymous 18]

A man. At last free. Welcome to MGTOW.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Gentlemen,

Thank you for your input. I’ll bring your suggestions to him.
Unless he sees them first and beats me to the punch. LOL

Regardless, I think I’m gonna print some of my own up.
And for the idea to place them at eye level above urinals, already being accomplished my friend!

I like the QR code idea and the shorter URL’s for videos.
And I like the idea to change the quote to something involving sovereignty with a specific definition of MGTOW.

So overall, I’ll get back to you. As soon as I can design and print my own I’ll post them here.
And if my friend decides to alter his and wants to share I will post for him.

Now about the other stuff mentioned.
First, tell me why Sandman is on the outs? Or point me to a thread that explains it.

We talked about it and he decided, besides this website, to use Sandman as the intro video because Sandman’s style is very matter of fact, neither angry nor inflammatory in his videos. Nor does he try to soften the truth with comedy or other ways to make the reality more palatable by avoiding deeper issues and softening the blow. He’s just matter of fact. I agreed with my friend and he went with Sandman in an attempt to appeal to the broadest possible base.

Also not sure how India got into this thread but please share. While I practice eastern paths and have more than a passing familiarity with the culture, that aspect is not something Ive had a lot of exposure to. Do tell….

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1284]

Attempted to watch the Sandman is Down video but the link is dead…..

[Anonymous 12]

Vajra Varaha wrote:

We talked about it and he decided, besides this website, to use Sandman as the intro video because Sandman’s style is very matter of fact, neither angry nor inflammatory in his videos. Nor does he try to soften the truth with comedy or other ways to make the reality more palatable by avoiding deeper issues and softening the blow. He’s just matter of fact. I agreed with my friend and he went with Sandman in an attempt to appeal to the broadest possible base.

Also not sure how India got into this thread but please share. While I practice eastern paths and have more than a passing familiarity with the culture, that aspect is not something Ive had a lot of exposure to. Do tell….

Vajra,

If these were my cards -i accept they are not- i would move away from Sandman or Popp as a MGTOW introduction elements altogether.

Nothing against Sandman, he helped me wake up in the early days.
Nothing against Popp, i look up to this man for the path he has traveled.

These Cards however, hold an element of publicity.
They push a message, they put MGTOW on the map.

Sandman and Popp often, if not always, talk about Women, and not always about Men improving themselves.
MGTOW is seen by the internet as woman hating, rape propagating, clitoris cutting Bastards. (exagerration…)

So i wonder what kind of Video could be used as an intro – a deeper meaning, a more calm message centered around the Man himself, devoid of all female elements perhaps?

There is no right answer, i recon, but if i were to print “subliminal cards” like this, i would choose neither Popp nor Sandman, because for Me, MGTOW is not about nasty bitches.
Tt is about s~~~ty men turning into awesome men, and doing so away from the usual paths.

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