MGTOW Helped Me Understand and Changed My Way of Thinking

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

I am so grateful that I discovered this site and the information within. I get it now….my blinders have been removed and things I found so confusing in the past make total sense to me now. And, the MGTOW philosophy has simplified my life. I had a tendency to be a white knight and thought I was being a good man helping the women in my life. I now realise that all this got me was more responsibility for s~~~ that wasn’t mine and less free time for me. The free work and assistance I did also built an expectation on their part that I would be their go to guy when there was things they would rather not do. I certainly made their (the women) lives easier and I have to say I felt taken for granted. Not any more. I have made it clear to my girlfriend that her property is her responsibility to maintain just as my property is my responsibility to maintain. I don’t expect her to do my yardwork so she has to grant me the same expectation. If this was going to be an issue or a problem for us, I was ready to move on and she knew it how strongly I felt about it. She did seem to understand and seems to have accepted it without any repercussion. So far, this new dynamic doesn’t appear to have affected our relationship at all. Is she putting on an act? Maybe….but if she is she’s doing a damn good job. Will this be a problem it in the future? Maybe. But, that’s the beauty of dating. You can just walk away at any time for any reason if you want to. This is real power. Real. Power. Women may not like it, but they have to respect it.

With regard to how my late wife confused me for years with her woman s~~~, I now understand what her methods and motivation were thanks to this site. The women I’ve dated after becoming a widower and their nonsense……now I get their behaviour and the motivation behind that behaviour, again, thanks to this site. I look at relationships in a whole new way. But, I treat my new found awareness like it was Fight Club…..the first rule is that you never talk about Fight Club. My family and friends would be very surprised if they knew what my thoughts are about women, relationships, and the farce known as marriage. Very surprised. So, thank you all, my Brothers for your council, opinions, stories, humor, and wisdom. I’m living proof that an old dog can learn new tricks if he has an open mind.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Quiet Thom wrote:

Is she putting on an act? Maybe….but if she is she’s doing a damn good job. Will this be a problem it in the future? Maybe. But, that’s the beauty of dating. You can just walk away at any time for any reason if you want to. This is real power. Real. Power. Women may not like it, but they have to respect it.

This is very likely. If she’s like every other woman, she thinks you’ll come around over time. She’ll attempt to slowly chip away at your stance. Just keep an eye out for it and set her straight when the manipulation starts.

Quiet Thom wrote:

I’m living proof that an old dog can learn new tricks if he has an open mind.

Three cheers for this! 😀

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I can only echo what Wolf has said.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Being able to withdraw and have non-negotiable boundaries, while also having something to offer, will get you far in life.  For a woman, or anyone else, to get what you have that they want, they have to respect these boundaries.  They may try to game you to violate these boundaries, but if you clearly communicate them, you will get far.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

This is good news but as been said …. be on your guard.

Well done ☺

[RoyDalParticipant]

Shaming tactics: /shaming-tactics/

Welcome aboard, and stay the course! The more your eyes are opened, the more free you will be. The more free you are, the less you will be willing to return to your shackles.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

Thanks for the warnings, but I am quite aware of what may come. Like I said, I’ve learned a lot and understand what motivates females now more than ever before in my life. Shaming? That would be a huge f~~~ing mistake with me. We’ve been together for about 5 years now and she’s NEVER EVER tried that s~~~. I possess a strong personality and my physical size has a tendency to intimidate people even though I’m, pretty much, easy going. And old. But, I can (and have) gone from zero to f~~~ you in 2 seconds if I’m certain I’m being provoked. She’s seen me do this with assholes and she (sort of) likes it. But, she admits being a little afraid of me when I get upset. And no, I’ve never, ever raised my voice to her or threatened her in any way….even when dealing with some f~~~head, so her fear is completely self imposed. It may be that her self imposed fear (respect?) of my anger keeps her from trying s~~~ tests with me. And, she’s gotten into the habit of splitting restaurant bills and tips with me. I know for a fact that this is unusual. So, will she try to coerce, motivate, trick, bribe, me into helping her maintain her property? Hard to say. While she certainly isn’t one of those illusive unicorns with rainbows coming out of her ass, she seems to know her place especially when I take a stand. I’ll keep you gents posted.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Beware.  All women are “backsliders”, just like many drug addicts.  Anything about you that she has come to accept, or parts of herself she has tried to change, is most likely to start backpedaling in a slow and insidious way.

Make her cut her own damn grass.  If she complains, you can tell her “now you will know how to do it if I die”… that usually shuts them up.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

KTR, she is very self sufficient and, pretty much, all of the things I used to do at her home were because I wanted to be a good boyfriend. Was I coerced by her feminine wiles to be free labor? I certainly think so. But, I have to take ownership of it and it’s up to me to solve the problem or shut up about it. I chose to solve the problem. I still catch myself almost volunteering to fix or do something when she has a problem with something. The operative word is almost. It’s an embedded reaction due to my many years as a married man, so it’s on me not to be the go to guy. Will I occasionally help her with stuff? Sure, if it doesn’t take a lot of time or interfere with things I have or want to do. Logic is on my side and my constant argument will be that I have to put my responsibilities first just as she has to put her responsibilities first. I take care of all of my stuff by myself. If she needs help to meet her responsibilities, she has to deal with it. That’s what grown ups do. Another valuable thing that I’ve learned here is that, to women, information is currency. Their knowing the who, what, where, when, and how about you is an insidious way to keep tabs on you. It’s f~~~ing annoying. I’ve learned to answer her questions like a politician….never be specific in any way, shape, or form. What am I doing and when will I be done? It depends, so I don’t know….I’m not certain…..I’ll have to see how it goes…ALL GREAT ANSWERS that reveal nothing of any substance. It was a pleasant surprise to me how freeing this was. Anyhow, if she backslides, I’ll bring her to the light. I don’t make my problems her problems and I demand the same courtesy.

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