MGTOW for over ten years

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

Hi all, I’ve been a lurker for a short while and decided to sign up today.  Until a month or so ago I had never heard of ‘MGTOW’ – I happened to read a comment on a newspaper website where someone referenced it, I googled it and found this place.  Since then I’ve done a lot of reading both of here and other ‘manosphere’ sites which I also didn’t know existed until recently.

It has been both satisfying to find that so many others think the same way I do, but also depressing too.   I have read so much that tallies with my own experiences of women, and I feel somewhat proud I suppose that many of the lessons being taught today are things that I learned for myself the hard way.  I’ve had the same beliefs about women, but wondered, “am I just being too harsh on them? Is there something wrong with me? I mean, I think I’m right but so many people say I’m wrong.”  Well, of course, I was right.

I’ve had quite a fair amount of experience with women and relationships although I’ve never been married (or had kids).  At some point after one relationship ended I realised for the first time in my life since adolescence that I had no interest in getting another girlfriend or lover.  It wasn’t because I was afraid of getting hurt, or didn’t think I could find someone else, or anything like that.  No, it was something new to me: I just had zero desire to do it.  I didn’t give this too much thought and I suppose I assumed it would pass, and I would get back to dating again in due course.  Ten odd years later and I never did get back into it.  I just haven’t felt any desire or need to.

Honestly, I have undergone a creeping realisation that I find I don’t like women much any more.  I mean when you really understand their personalities, their true nature and the way they think and behave, I have zero desire to ever be with a woman again.  The idea of being with one and putting up with their games and s~~~ is something I cannot countenance.  So I guess that makes me a MGTOW.

What depresses me I suppose is that I feel that society has f~~~ed men over in the west.  Feminism (female supremacy) has poisoned the well.  So, women are not something men like me find appealing any more.  I don’t want to be with some spoiled, narcissitic entitled woman who thinks she is superior to men.  Why would anyone want to be with someone like that, if they had any self respect.  But what does society have for me? What IS the point of our lives exactly? I’m in my 40s and I’ve yet to come up with a good answer to that.  I can go to work and pay the bills, and live in the sense of surviving and existing but I don’t feel I have any real meaningful or fulfilling existence and nor do I know what the answer is to that.

Sorry if this is not very upbeat but I’d appreciate any thoughts!  Thanks and it’s good to be here.

 

[MGTOWhomoParticipant 111]

Lucas Buck wrote:

What depresses me I suppose is that I feel that society has f~~~ed men over in the west. Feminism (female supremacy) has poisoned the well. So, women are not something men like me find appealing any more. I don’t want to be with some spoiled, narcissitic entitled woman who thinks she is superior to men. Why would anyone want to be with someone like that, if they had any self respect. But what does society have for me? What IS the point of our lives exactly? I’m in my 40s and I’ve yet to come up with a good answer to that. I can go to work and pay the bills, and live in the sense of surviving and existing but I don’t feel I have any real meaningful or fulfilling existence and nor do I know what the answer is to that. Sorry if this is not very upbeat but I’d appreciate any thoughts! Thanks and it’s good to be here.

 

Welcome Lucas Buck. While I don’t know what you straight guys go through with women, I can at least empathize to a certain degree, because the few times I have allowed women into my close circle of friends, or allowed my close friends to bring their women along, the conversation inevitably deteriorates to banality and stupidity, and always, always, somehow, about themselves. For the moment, society has nothing for any MGTOW men, and certainly can’t impart any meaning to existence. I can tell you this, from a little experience. By being true to yourself, you’ll find that meaning.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Welcome I’m glad you joined MGTOW. Your life purpose is what you make it. It could be to make money,it could be to fight for a cause,it could be religion,or it could be all three combined. After I joined MGTOW I felt that life was more meaningful and I tried to start a couple of protests (not that I’ve been successful). I hope that after living life as a MGTOW as I have over the past month you will find meaning and purpose in life. I also hope that you can raise more awareness about MGTOW like I’m trying to do.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

Yeah I should have added I am not religious at all.  I am British and religion isn’t much of a thing here (except for Muslims but that’s another story).  If I was religious that would provide its own meaning for life and beyond, but I don’t believe in any of that.  No offence to do those who do.

[Anonymous 42]

Lucas Buck wrote:

No, it was something new to me: I just had zero desire to do it.

Welcome Lucas Buck, I’m glad you’re not religious like Lucas electric (prince of darkness) their dynamos and regulators suck! just joking, but they really do suck!

We have allot in common you and I, our feelings are mutual, lost all desire to entertain woman, we’re not clowns, or puppets, we’re men, we’re brothers, we’re friends.

The tainted waters of feminism have poisoned the female spirit of our species, they’re no longer a pair/bond to men, they’re nature has blossomed to a being of ruthlessness, and self serving. I’m with you brother! My walking away from women has given me insight on the poisonous well of feminism. Only a fool would continue to quench his thirst a such a well.

Have some ice cold, clear, and pure water to go with your red pills.

Welcome to MGTOW……

 

[lonestar77Participant 406]

Welcome brother, welcome. I too have been a MGTOW for least 8 years and had no idea this place existed until recently. I can relate to your story in so many ways. I too was brought up to thinking that women are one way (nurturing , caring, selfless, etc) then as relation-s~~~s progress as you get older, you start to see right through them for what they really are. It’s wasn’t until my early 30’s did I also start to find zero interest in devoting my time, money, energy and mental strength to women anymore. Since I took them down from this pedestal we are told to put them on, my life has been A F~~~IN’ DREAM. All I had to do was open my eyes. Once a man can see past the sex what else does a women honestly have to offer? NOT A DAMN THING!  Besides once you get married the sex and blowjobs become “special occasion” treats anyway so what’s the point?

 

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

[AntaresParticipant 208]

For a guy who’s already been doing the MGTOW thing before he knows the term, I think getting depressed isn’t unusual. I felt similar after I started reading it in depth. Not that it changed what I was already doing, but because I realized the fairytale was (or has become at least) a bunch of bulls~~~. Normally when people say “fairytale” they conjure grandiose images of wonder and delight, but what traditionalism offered wasn’t even anywhere near that ideal. “I can’t even have that much?” I wondered. But waking up to MGTOW opened my eyes. Why in the f~~~ did I want that in the first place? That sounds like a formula for misery, not happiness and fulfillment.

Once you’ve broken away, the world is open before you. Most important is that you are not burdened with all the crap you thought you were. I’d say the point of life being “spawning kids and supporting a wife until you die” (earlier than her) is a lot more depressing than going MGTOW. In finding meaning you’ll realize traditionalism/society/women interfere with fulfillment instead of giving it to you. It takes time to incorporate what you’ve learned, but there are good times ahead, so cheers.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Lucas,, Lucas,, you want the meaning of life do you?

But what does society have for me? What IS the point of our lives exactly?

society has nothing of value for you…first Question answered…

Now the good part is the second Question…Be creative, choose a choice, that has not been offered to you….Freedom to define yourself with no expectations from anyone but yourself…I don’t care how you choose or what you choose, you can only disappoint yourself by failing to see the possibilities, and staying in the hum-drum place your mind is in now….The point of your life is to “live it”, and “live it well”. Enjoy everything you love to excess..Avoid the things that make life stale and depressing….Live it up  for the time is short in the grand scheme…. Welcome to mgtow

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

I have been living that way for years, much to the strong disapproval of my parents.  I have arranged my life so that I work as little as I have to, and am happy to live a relatively simple lifestyle as far as material things are concerned, so that I have more free time to enjoy leisure activities because to me that is more important.

It would be nice if my parents were happy for me so long as I was happy, but they don’t think that way.  But I realised long ago that I’m not on this planet to win their approval, or anyone else’s.  They would call me selfish for having that attitude.  I would call other people who expect me to live my life to suit them, the selfish ones.

I also resent paying taxes to fund the governments of today which I despise, because they despise me yet they expect me to work hard and extract the fruits of my labour from me, to pay for their anti-men, pro war, pro multiculturalism/mass immigration policies which are destroying the societies our ancestors built.

 

 

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

It takes time to figure out a way out of that system..I have done it for myself but still from time to time out of necessity I have to take a public sector job with W4’s in place..I just fill it so they take the least amount..Say in my mind they stole it from me.  It was not voluntary, and still don’t file….If they are gonna steal from me, I am not willingly gonna give em my time of life, doing paperwork for them..They don’t pay you to do their paperwork. They expect you to give em your time of life for free…Or worse pay them to take it from you…That paperwork is evidence of your consent….This is no way to be considered tax advice….Your situation and mine are different I am sure, as I have downsized to the point of having nothing in assets for them to take…A man can be pretty damn defiant when all they can do to him is give him a free place to sleep out of the elements and food too…

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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