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I actually joined MGTOW.com many months ago, but I couldn’t talk on the forums back then.
I’m 29 years old and I’ve been dating pretty much non stop since I was 16 mainly between 3 girls. Never really too far from marriage being a possibility.
The last one had major depression issues and I gave her way to many chances to clean up her act and get better, over 6 years. Some good friends thought I was crazy. She was my fiance and I broke up with her 24 hours before the wedding because I caught her talking to another guy she met at her bachelorette party.I’m here because after I finally had enough and left my last ex and broke up with her, I started looking for another girl almost instantly, mostly on dating sites. I don’t know if something has changed but the average woman I see acts selfish and very entitled. They’re very demanding about what they want and very straight about telling you to f~~~ off if you don’t like it. These women don’t seem to be interested in give and take relationships, they just want to take. I guess women would say they’re “strong”. I think women don’t realize the vast majority of men give up a lot to make them happy, and it should be a two way street if you want the relationship to work. It was a huge turn off and many of these women are pretty over weight these days and that’s also a turn off. It’s funny women keep telling themselves that they’re perfect the way they are, and they shouldn’t bother trying to be fit or healthy. Somehow that’s supposed to magically change what type of women men are attracted too, it just isn’t going to happen, it’s not reality. Most men want a smaller thinner woman and “curvy” used to still mean skinny but a girl with hips and a big bust. Now curvy means big blob of s~~~. Great for the rare chubby chaser. I also found most of these women to be very flaky and I just don’t put up with that s~~~. So with frustration I started looking into psychology and trying to figure out what the f~~~ is going on with women these days. It’s like I was living under a rock. My ex’s had issues, but not these issues to its worst extent. It also seems to be generational to a point, I think the girls in their 20’s are worse then the girls in their 30’s. I think they’ve been getting worse and worse every generation. In my research I found MGTOW and some youtube channels and the s~~~ they were spewing made a lot of sense, or at least 90% of it made sense, some of the red pill I just assumed was intuitively known by all people because it’s been so unbelievably obvious to me since I was in high school, but that appears to not be the case.
Fast forward and I’ve been single for over a year. I’ve mostly stopped caring about being with any girl. I don’t really think drama is worth sex, so unless I find an attractive girl with low drama(fat chance.. pun intended), I’ll just relax. I hang out with friends and family a lot. I miss sex as it is such a powerful drive, but I’m glad my sex drive isn’t driving me off a cliff like it was when I was 18.
Since living the MGTOW life, I often feel like I’m drifting in life. I had more concrete goals when I was dating. I had bought a house, I was at one point getting married. I’ve been striving for financial independence and early retirement for many years. I still have those goals, but the journey there seems more empty and I’m not even sure what I want to do when I get there. I know it’s been talked about in the MGTOW community not to make women the goal of your happiness. I think it’s not really women but just simply being social. Grow up your whole life with people around you and I think that’s healthy, but there’s something damaging about living alone, like we’re not meant to live alone and yet that’s what many MGTOW’s are forced to do. I’m not exactly depressed or even remotely suicidal. I just have a constant feeling like I need to do something different with my life without knowing what I should do. It has affected my work as I struggle to concentrate and get anything done every day.
Been there and done that brother. I hated being an attorney and I was actually glad when the government kicked me to the curb due to disability.
You need to find something you really have a passion for. Our society tries to program you with its agenda of what you are supposed to find important. Now that you have freed yourself from that trap you’re sort of like Conan given freedom after years of slavery—where do I go, what do I do, and how do I find meaning?
Find your center internally and go with it. I was always interested in firearms but could never really delve into it. Now I’m a full time gunsmith and I love it. Or you could try music, or go back to school and learn about something you really like—not because you want it to pay the bills. Go out and explore. We are here to listen to you.
Welcome to the site.
Seems like you use to have ambition to make yourself more appealing to women…That’s all gone now, now you’re able to explore yourself and find your own wants/motivation.
If you have none, don’t worry – take your time, slack, be lazy..Everyone needs lazy phases from time to time…Eventually your head will clear and you will be back on track.
Welcome brother,keep a few good friends around and focus on what you like to do the most,sounds to me you’re on the right track with a house and early retirement –
don’t let some broad screw that up for you.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
WELCOME TO THE FOLD BROTHER
BEING HAPPY IS NOT A FEELING IT’S A NEW WAY OF LIFE AND EXISTING.LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
Welcome to mgtow. Due to decades of conditioning and cultural marxism The west has become sick and stupid, this we can all agree on. I don’t know if there will be a cure but I will tell you that you made the right choice in straightening up your previous blue pill act. Don’t stop your ambitions though because being red pilled means you have to be active both physically and mentally otherwise you will end up with a few members here who complained that nothing is worth squat anymore and that’s BS. We men create, invent, and explore. Everything we achieved for thousands of years has been so without women. You don’t need a dried up pussy to tell you that there’s more to life.
If you had goals when you were dating and are now drifting as you said then by all means thrive in life for your sake. You can at least take pride in that.
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Now I’m a full time gunsmith and I love it. Or you could try music,
a couple good friends have been taking me shooting lately for the first time in my life, planning on getting a pistol soon. I’ve played guitar for many years and write a lot of instrumentals.
Don’t stop your ambitions though because being red pilled means you have to be active both physically and mentally otherwise you will end up with a few members here who complained that nothing is worth squat anymore and that’s BS. We men create, invent, and explore. Everything we achieved for thousands of years has been so without women. You don’t need a dried up pussy to tell you that there’s more to life.
Laughed my ass off, “You don’t need a dried up pussy to tell you that there’s more to life.” I have been getting more fit since I’ve been single. I do like to create, lately it’s been brewing beer. I’ve brewed for several years now, even served my beer a couple times at festivals and helped start a beer festival in my home town.
I think brewing beer has been the biggest pull for me that I should start a brewery of brew pub. I know that’s a road I need to dedicate 1000% of myself too and I’m not sure I want to do that. A nice option I have is I’m pretty sure I can negotiate a 3 or 4 day work week at my office and could use that extra time to pursue other interests. But I’d rather keep the extra cash flowing at this point and I’m still figuring out what I want to pursue. I don’t have what you call an “addictive personality”.
I definitely feel like life is worth living even without women. I think there’s just a big social aspect to how I’m feeling even though I’m super busy and having fun every weekend. Weekdays is definitely a grind. Plus I live in Wisconsin and f~~~ winter is coming again. I’m already getting p~~~ed about the shorter days and the cold. I think about moving away from Wisconsin constantly but I think that would drive me into isolation and make me miserable. Maybe part of this is a feeling of being trapped even when I’m not in a relations~~~. Feeling like I’m trapped in a job and location.
You will love shooting and hunting. If you ever have any questions about guns: type, quality, price etc just let me know.
Since living the MGTOW life, I often feel like I’m drifting in life. I had more concrete goals when I was dating. I had bought a house, I was at one point getting married. I’ve been striving for financial independence and early retirement for many years. I still have those goals, but the journey there seems more empty and I’m not even sure what I want to do when I get there. I know it’s been talked about in the MGTOW community not to make women the goal of your happiness. I think it’s not really women but just simply being social. Grow up your whole life with people around you and I think that’s healthy, but there’s something damaging about living alone, like we’re not meant to live alone and yet that’s what many MGTOW’s are forced to do. I’m not exactly depressed or even remotely suicidal. I just have a constant feeling like I need to do something different with my life without knowing what I should do. It has affected my work as I struggle to concentrate and get anything done every day.
Who say MGTOW is about living alone?
Sure, some of us prefer that, some of us still f~~~ women, but all of us strive to avoid the dangers that come with women. Surely we are not swearing off our brothers.
There is nothing healthy or unhealthy for an individual to be alone or not. It is only unhealthy for the government and society if too many people live alone, because they can feed you less propaganda, extract less resource from you.
Just see the difference in the bill when you are alone and with company. When you are together with other people, women especially, you need to give up much more money that you won’t when you are alone.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
welcome brother!
i’ve been drifting for most of my life..
i just let it happen..
turned out pretty good for the most part.
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remember,
if you want to make God laugh,
tell him your plans…Welcome to MGTOW brother, being alone for long periods of time can be detrimental to your health. Most blue pillers will strive to get the good job and make the money to impress some woman so they will got some sort of physical feeling. Red pill men will know this is stupid and will engage themselves with like minded people to fulfill that community need of not being alone. Find things that interest you and go for them, get hobbies, get into groups, work out… do whatever it is that you can do to enrich your life outside of pussy and drama. I personally go shooting, workout, learn about the stock market, and woodworking to fill my days.
When it comes to the basic urges of sex getting an escort is really the way to go, you pay them a few hundred bucks to get some great sex and they leave. The escorts around my parts know how to please a man sexually and they do not stick around for the chit chat drama bulls~~~ that comes afterwards.
For trying to figure yourself out simply just get off your ass and go try some things, you may have to spend a bit of money to find out you do not like that particular thing but at least you are out and doing something. If you do not like your job start researching other professions that may work for you and do not quite your current job until you are dead set on something that will work. S~~~ I went from being a mechanic to working in corporate IT only to realize that I prefer working with my hands and am going back into the trades.
What most people do is usually feel sorry for themselves and just sit at home and stew for weeks and months. The smart thing to do is pick yourself up and force yourself forward, sure the first few days suck but afterwards it gets easier and easier and soon you will realize that you are succeeding at life…. its that simple.
Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit
You will love shooting and hunting. If you ever have any questions about guns: type, quality, price etc just let me know.
I’ve been looking at budget 9mm pistols like the S&W SD 9 VE and the Taurus Millenium G2. I’m not planning on concealed carry and would like something I can get a good grip on. Until I get closer to retirement, everything I do is pretty much on a tighter budget.
Who say MGTOW is about living alone?
It’s a pretty deep rooted societal thing, men live alone or with a girl friend/wife other once they have money. The only dude I would find randomly to roommate is likely to not have his s~~~ together and I wouldn’t trust it working out. I have tried to talk my best friend who’s also really been living the MGTOW life since I’ve known him even though he doesn’t really know what MGTOW is. He isn’t interested at the moment. I think living in isolation is pretty bad, we’re hard wired to be social beings. I’m not completely isolated though, I go to work on the weekdays and talk to coworkers, and see friends on the weekend. I’m known to be a loner, but even I recognize I’m happiest when I’m around good friends and family. That’s why I’m out having fun every weekend instead of working on my house.
For trying to figure yourself out simply just get off your ass and go try some things, you may have to spend a bit of money to find out you do not like that particular thing but at least you are out and doing something. If you do not like your job start researching other professions that may work for you and do not quite your current job until you are dead set on something that will work.
I’m in no way, depressed, not that you said I was. I get the feeling I came off that way. I think I just want to find something I can really jump into and focus my energy on. I guess a purpose or goal to attack. I still have my goal of early retirement, but now that’s not enough of a goal. That goal is on auto pilot and I need something else to focus on.
I think it makes sense for me to get out and try new things. I have my hobbies, but I clearly don’t want them to go beyond small hobbies. I need to get out and try new things. Or maybe I really need to jump into something, even if it required 100% of my energy. Despite dating all my adult life, I feel like I’ve done a lot. I did freelance computer repair in College and found my own clients, ridden motorcycles since I was a teenager, rebuilt engines, repaired all my own cars, did forklift repair and maintenance, played lots of video games when I was younger, did physics research in cosmic showers, programmed various computer languages, learned guitar and piano, brew beer, roast coffee, cook, wood work, bought a house, and started a personal finance blog. If there’s an area I can work with my hands or be creative I’ve pretty much tried it. I have jumped from Design Engineering/Applications Engineering to computer programming and then to Electrical Engineering in my short time since graduating college. I’ve noticed I’m becoming less risk averse the more money I start making and further down I go in this Electrical/Controls Engineering field.
You will love shooting and hunting. If you ever have any questions about guns: type, quality, price etc just let me know.
I’ve been looking at budget 9mm pistols like the S&W SD 9 VE and the Taurus Millenium G2. I’m not planning on concealed carry and would like something I can get a good grip on. Until I get closer to retirement, everything I do is pretty much on a tighter budget.
Who say MGTOW is about living alone?
It’s a pretty deep rooted societal thing, men live alone or with a girl friend/wife other once they have money. The only dude I would find randomly to roommate is likely to not have his s~~~ together and I wouldn’t trust it working out. I have tried to talk my best friend who’s also really been living the MGTOW life since I’ve known him even though he doesn’t really know what MGTOW is. He isn’t interested at the moment. I think living in isolation is pretty bad, we’re hard wired to be social beings. I’m not completely isolated though, I go to work on the weekdays and talk to coworkers, and see friends on the weekend. I’m known to be a loner, but even I recognize I’m happiest when I’m around good friends and family. That’s why I’m out having fun every weekend instead of working on my house.
For trying to figure yourself out simply just get off your ass and go try some things, you may have to spend a bit of money to find out you do not like that particular thing but at least you are out and doing something. If you do not like your job start researching other professions that may work for you and do not quite your current job until you are dead set on something that will work.
I’m in no way, depressed, not that you said I was. I get the feeling I came off that way. I think I just want to find something I can really jump into and focus my energy on. I guess a purpose or goal to attack. I still have my goal of early retirement, but now that’s not enough of a goal. That goal is on auto pilot and I need something else to focus on.
I think it makes sense for me to get out and try new things. I have my hobbies, but I clearly don’t want them to go beyond small hobbies. I need to get out and try new things. Or maybe I really need to jump into something, even if it required 100% of my energy. Despite dating all my adult life, I feel like I’ve done a lot. I did freelance computer repair in College and found my own clients, ridden motorcycles since I was a teenager, rebuilt engines, repaired all my own cars, did forklift repair and maintenance, played lots of video games when I was younger, did physics research in cosmic showers, programmed various computer languages, learned guitar and piano, brew beer, roast coffee, cook, wood work, bought a house, and started a personal finance blog. If there’s an area I can work with my hands or be creative I’ve pretty much tried it. I have jumped from Design Engineering/Applications Engineering to computer programming and then to Electrical Engineering in my short time since graduating college. I’ve noticed I’m becoming less risk averse the more money I start making and further down I go in this Electrical/Controls Engineering field.
That’s great to hear bud I have done the same thing myself, keeping myself busy learning new skills (though different from yours) and just keeping my mind active. I am currently writing a book about survival and working out at the gym while I wait for school to start. Keep at your hobbies and money making and the more down the road you go the better things will get, just leave the pussy hunting out of it lol.
Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit
Who say MGTOW is about living alone?
It’s a pretty deep rooted societal thing, men live alone or with a girl friend/wife other once they have money. The only dude I would find randomly to roommate is likely to not have his s~~~ together and I wouldn’t trust it working out. I have tried to talk my best friend who’s also really been living the MGTOW life since I’ve known him even though he doesn’t really know what MGTOW is. He isn’t interested at the moment. I think living in isolation is pretty bad, we’re hard wired to be social beings. I’m not completely isolated though, I go to work on the weekdays and talk to coworkers, and see friends on the weekend. I’m known to be a loner, but even I recognize I’m happiest when I’m around good friends and family. That’s why I’m out having fun every weekend instead of working on my house.
I see I misunderstand the statement a bit. I am confusing living alone in a house and living alone and rejecting society contact as much as possible.
What I am referring to is the second part. There is no one definition of going your own way, 18000 men have 18000 path of going their own way. Some may reject society contact as much as possible, some still keep regular contact with friends and family.
What we have in common is striving to avoid the dangers of the gynocentric society.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
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