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An academic description of MGTOW; an interpretation that needs the approval of the community. Recently MGTOW was added to Wikipedia so the community has to move quickly to outline what MGTOW in the best possible light before it becomes concrete in its description. That is it though it will not portrayed in a bad light that discourages men from the movement. I wish it to be accurate so please read and give you vote or opinion so that a the real spirit of MGTOW is deserved.
MGTOW man: (Men Going Their Own Way pronounced /ˈmɪg.taʊ/ ) motto/descriptive MGHOW: Man Going His Own Way as featured on the BBC[1] is an online community supported by websites and social media presences.[2] The community is part of what is more broadly termed the manosphere.[3]
Interpretation; [philosophical] is a non-judgemental coalition of self-actualised “red pill” men. A community of men that have separated themselves or protesting through peaceful non-participation the conformity to unrealistic social expectations, female preference and ideology (Gynocentrism2/Femfog3), within Western civilisation that has become hostile and prejudicial toward men and masculinity referred to as “the red pill”. MGTOW protestation by nonparticipation in traditional ideologies, gender roles and feminisation, is a lifestyle of passive ‘Non-violent Resistance’ that does not hurt or oppress anybody nor does it seek to do so. This is from the prospective of Self-ownership and often men that have been harmed consecutively by women or prejudice. They now decide not to comply with social expectations to seek the philosophy of freedom thought, open discussion and self-determination by encouraging men to remove the risks of exploitation out of their lives. Henceforward MGTOW ‘is not’ a catchphrase and not just a motto but of the philosophy structured towards freeing men from mandated roles of society that positions them into servitude (e.g. marriage, law enforced for non-consensual progeny, the theft of property through unjust and discriminative law). Changing men’s issues thoughts toward removing themselves from practices that lead them into exploitation. This does not remove the practicality and needs of men, such as sex but does not describe individuals if their long-term goal and desire is to chase or please women or has a plan to get married into conventional servitude. This is because it is in contradiction to the philosophy of MGTOW making them incompatible with the philosophy but not enemies of it.
Interpretation; [Political] Men have become second class citizens because of inappropriate liberal feminism with mistaken and skewed mantra of equality. Men resisting paradigm has been concluded is that direct confrontation with these women’s groups is non-productive in equalising the rights of men and women. The reason why men’s right’s movements are non-productive is because they tend to be more traditionalist in their perspective which is a trap that ultimately in slave’s men. This is unpalatable for the modern age of MGTOW men because most modern men don’t want a submissive 1930’s wife, they just want the same courtesy and respect that is afforded to other gender(s/other) in the 21st century. This is the respect of basic human rights of personal space, personal property, equal justice, public interpersonal equality, the right to personality, the fair distribution of labour, the abolishment of entitlement and equal status under the court system with no disrespectful tone towards masculinity or shaming men for not fitting within a government, traditionalist and feminist dogmatic view of what a man and boys should be.
Interpretation; [Media] Many men opted-out of this female mantra as a passive resistance and self-protection to invoke change in a meaningful way and this created the MGTOW movement. This is not a selfish action or excuse but an action to take the power of their life back from traditionalism, state and women. A philosophy for self-reflection, of needs, emotion, personal time, labour and resources for themselves and other men, with no arbitrary distinctions (Ghost Nation)5.
Interpretation [deduction] men that have been continually put out by conventions social or otherwise to the point that they reject them those conventions
Interpretation [naiveté] (conventionalist) men are bastards that only think of themselves in addition to shirking their moral and societal responsibilities. A common opinion of Traditionalist and men and women that subscribes to gender roles (see TRADCON).
Interpretation [antonym] (negative) privileged man that are focused only on their needs and fears under a feminist rape culture and patriarchy paradigm4.
Interpretation [feminists/antifeminist] MGTOW is a non-actor to feminism and politics, to be an antifeminist one must engage and debate with feminists. Whereby the group by itself does not acknowledge fighting feminism but ‘nothing’s’ feminism. An argument that MGTOW is antifeminist as a group is a non-sequitur as it is a non-remonstrate optimal life strategy community of philosophic discussion. It is an individual’s choice independent of the movement to discuss anti-feminism but not a group decision ideology. With MGTOW protestation by nonparticipation in traditional ideologies and gender roles is a lifestyle of Non-violent Resistance that does not hurt or oppress anybody. Gandhi proved this through NVR and nobody would call Gandhi a misogynist fascist so the same paradigm applies to MGTOW. But is more characterised by the work of François-Marie Arouet (November 21, 1694 – May 30, 1778), famous using his pen name ‘Voltaire’, a French writer, deist and philosopher. “If you want to know who rules over you, look to who you’ are not allowed to criticise.” In the 21st century that is feminism.
Examples:
[woman]; “where have all the good men gone”
[man]; “they have wisest up f#cked off” Cheeky Bstard 2015
MGTOW: verb; make a forcefully reproachful protest by peaceful nonparticipation and self-centralisation of men.Belief and myths about MGTOW
1) MGTOW is a political men’s rights movement. This misconception comes from early members that were disillusioned with MRA movement that supplied little results. Therefore moved to MGTOW that supplied structure, support, life choice and passive opposition/protest by removing themselves from the line of fire and injustice.
2) MGTOW is against married men. MGTOW are against the inequality of marriage and the legal system that supports it but does not exclude men who are married or in a relationship. MGTOW by definition discourage men from marrying for the injustice of marriage and family law in most western countries by avoiding it.
3) MGTOW is against female company. Though the MGTOW community is based on self-reliance and renounce seeking female approval they are not against having relationships with the opposite sex as long as you’re doing it for yourself.
4) MGTOW is anti-women. MGTOW endorses Self-ownership prospective. This is a philosophy built on self-examination and the nature of men and women excepting that women and men are governed by biological principles that are not relevant in this day and age and are dysfunctional by nature.
5) MGTOW is antifeminist. Essentially this is true, but this is mainly because feminism is the relevant in this day and age. It also can be said that MGTOW opposes feminism on the basis that it is being used as a tool to buy majority to strip men of their civil and human rights.
6) MGTOW is a bunch of angry men griping on the Internet. This could not be further from the truth. Many men affiliated with MGTOW are successful good-looking healthy men that just object female exploitation of them. It should be also noted that most men come to MGTOW because they have been exploited by women and society in a fair way and therefore are angry. This is mostly because social structure and law is biased against men and therefore MGTOW members are angrier at this injustice rather than just women that are more often than not ignorant of this fact. It is also fair to say that MGTOW is interested in understanding women’s behaviour from the standpoint of the learned behaviour and biology and are open to discussion rather than absolute blame on either sex.
7) MGTOW blames women for all their problems. There are some that would believe that and are not discouraged four but it simply is not true for all MGTOW members (see discussion 6).
8) MGTOW believes in gynocentrisem a phenomenon of the worship of the females’ either of me by the State, Society, or the male gender.
9) Efficacy is not Ethicacy. If we stand for anything as MGTOW, we stand for anti-exploitation. If we forget that and exploit another we are hypocrites and we stand on nothing.
Source one
This is summarized on one MGTOW (men going their own way) web site as;
One can argue that:
– Our world is a corporate plantation and men are its primary slaves.
– You have unwittingly been programmed since birth to become a slave.
– A wife, a mortgage and kids almost always guarantees you a life of servitude.
– Men do not innately owe to women or society anything, but they still end up as slaves in sexless marriages with moody wives.
– The illusion of marriage from prior generations lures men into bondage.
But do not despair: “waking up” is the key to your freedom.Source two
No marrying the bitches1
No begging for their pussy
No begging for their vaginal seal of approval
No white knighting for them
No more being their disposable heroes
No more protecting them2
No more providing for them3
No more pedestalizing them
No more brother competing against brother to earn their attention and affection
No more centring our lives, our identities, and our self-esteem, on what earns us their approval or access to their pussy.
RBK (razor blade candy)
Critique; expressed beliefs alternative (RBK)
1; “No marrying the bitches” (for the religious) until men have are equal in rights within the marriage and after. This means no more children without consent. No more alimony. No more division of assets should be directly correlated with division of labour. All belongings are used as a division of liquid assets (if a woman buys $20 worth of shoes and her share of liquid assets [money] $50 than a woman should only be able to receive $30) and can provide real evidence that she has any claim to that money.
2; “No more protecting them” from their responsibilities and accountability.
3; “No more providing for them” indicating a fair interchange of mutual benefit, division of labour and non-discriminatory legalities and responsibilities.Citations
1.“Men at War”. Reggie Yates’ Extreme UK. Season 1. Episode 2. January 12, 2016. 22 minutes in. BBC. BBC Three.
2.Gimbutas, Marija (1991). The Civilization of the Goddess: The World of Old Europe. HarperCollins. ISBN 978-0-06-250804-1.
3.Femfog: coined by Allen J. Frantzen to describe feminist tactics for clouding academia into unscientific practice, inaccuracy and self-denial to push an agenda.
4.McCarthy, James (22 Nov 2015). “David Sherratt, 18, is a men’s rights activist who won’t have casual sex in case he is falsely accused of rape”. Wales Online. Retrieved 2015-12-31.
5.Lamoureux, Mack (September 24, 2015). “This Group of Straight Men Is Swearing Off Women”. Vice Magazine. Retrieved 2015-12-30.Sincerely
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Please help I don’t want to pursue to speak for all MGTOW
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Hell no.
1. Why should we even care what some part of the Internet, be it a weak and unreliable encyclopedia says about us?
2. Caring what others write about us, or caring at all is contrary to Going Your Own Way.
3. Wikipedia can be targeted by feminists or manginas and be changed regularly. We don’t need another platform.
If men want to know about MGTOW, they just add .COM and bathe in the knowledge that this site offers. Wikipedia is for liberal beta’s.
I have been in this … as have others.
We can only do so much.
There are a dedicated group of fembots that do nothing but the electronic equivalent of ‘book burning’.
However, you can’t burn knowledge. This is why mgtow must be passed from father to son, old to young.
Mgtow can’t be stopped.
We are smoke …. try edit or burn that.
No point, it will be vandalized and or deleted for sure.
Anonymous5What is wrong with the definition we have now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
I just checked it out and it seems fine. Actually it is missing some stuff I saw on it before but for the life of me I will never remember what it was. I think there was some stuff from this site on it actually.
Oh well. As long as a MGTOW/Man is in control of it before they lock it forever, we are fine. Feminist c~~~ trolls will try to change it a few more times I am sure.
Keep copies and keep up the great work. Don’t worry, if Feminist c~~~ trolls or manginas ruin it, we can always complain to get it changed. It might take 30-90 days or some bulls~~~ but whatever. You have to excuse me though but I am not 100% familiar with wikipedia’s rules. I never edited or contributed to it before but I respect those who do.
The Skank Spanker, Linking “MGTOW” back to this website “ABOUT” is the first thing I did.
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mrpops238: There’s nothing wrong with it that’s why are linked it in Wikipedia because it wasn’t there before. You will find that new additions to Wikipedia that aren’t elaborated on soon become targets of feminist propaganda. When you fill it up with citations and academic work it’s less vulnerable to approved vandalisation.
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That’s different again.
They had previously had up this version (which we archived here)
/content/pages/mgtow/Then they posted this sudden un-authorized alteration and there was talk about striking it altogether (also archived here)
/content/pages/wiki/Now it’s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
Could have been worse. But really, WE are IT. Whatever wikipedia says about it is secondary. If you think there is anything we can do, (what are you suggesting?) we will be happy to assist.
And PS @Cheeky… thank you for all your efforts.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I think we should at least make an effort otherwise we just become parasitical women waiting for someone else to do something. I’m not signing up for Mangina card just yet.
I just wanted feedback on what information I had up if you liked it hated it that sort of thing. So wasn’t speaking for all of MGTOW without consulting members.
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Anonymous5That’s different again.
They had previously had up this version (which we archived here)
/content/pages/mgtow/Then they posted this sudden un-authorized alteration and there was talk about striking it altogether (also archived here)
/content/pages/wiki/Now it’s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
Could have been worse. But really, WE are IT. Whatever wikipedia says about it is secondary. If you think there is anything we can do, (what are you suggesting?) we will be happy to assist.
And PS @Cheeky… thank you for all your efforts.
Yeah. Keymaster posted the old version that I remember. Glad we have it saved somewhere.
So wasn’t speaking for all of MGTOW without consulting members.
That’s the nub of the problem, you cannot talk for all MGTOW, there are as many different paths in MGTOW as there are MGTOW. It is impossible to define accurately but it is not a movement. MGTOW does not have an agenda, it does not have goals, it does not have leaders, it does not advertise, it is not made up of activists, it is not evangelical, it does not actively oppose anything. That is MGTOW’s strength, to define it is to plat fog and that is why non MGTOW are frightened of it.
Who needs wikipedia anyway? The idea that wikipedia is the repository of all world knowledge is false and by posting on it you are giving tacit acceptance that wikipedia is a valid source of information.
MGTOW know what MGTOW is, and that is enough.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
P.S. It is a great effort though….
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
Spacemonkey Its combination of about 1,000 opinion pieces over just under 12 months, I just hope that sticks. I hope the integrity of the message is deserved and inspires at least one man to ask one question then the time and effort will seem trivial in comparison to the gift.
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Anonymous5I like how Wikipedia have linked “Men Going Their Own Way” to their Herbivore Men of Japan page.
Surveys of single Japanese men conducted in 2010 found that 61% of men in their 20s and 70% of men in their 30s considered themselves to be herbivores
Those statistics are stunning. It’s almost unimaginable,,,, but it’s the way things are going.
Hell no.
1. Why should we even care what some part of the Internet, be it a weak and unreliable encyclopedia says about us?
2. Caring what others write about us, or caring at all is contrary to Going Your Own Way.
3. Wikipedia can be targeted by feminists or manginas and be changed regularly. We don’t need another platform.
If men want to know about MGTOW, they just add .COM and bathe in the knowledge that this site offers. Wikipedia is
I second that. Oh no! Now instead of being brought to a wikipedia page, they will be brought directly here. Oh no! Psh, they still lose. Men already know. And there’s a whole library of mgtow right here on this website. We will always be talked bad about by the bitch boy white knights and feminists, so who cares? Simple advice, just don’t give a f~~~. Men are wising up to reality, they don’t need any website really, all they need to do is look at reality or out the window and it’s right there in front of them.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Wikipedia has been overrun by liberals, lazy motherf~~~ers, libertarians and trolls who just want to put what they want on there and believe it. Why even bother caring about it? Put it somewhere that we as members can see it, not everyone else.
It’s not really just caring about MGTOW. It’s a caring about men and as soon as we stop caring about that, we become women. Self-centred whining women.
Sincerely
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The original Wikipedia page is now permanently archived on this site here: /content/pages/mgtow/
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Any MGTOW page on wikipedia (or any other supposed internet information source) should include a link to the website.
And nothing else.
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