MGTOW – Cost Benefit Analysis

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

MGTOW – Cost Benefit Analysis
This guy explains this thoughts very well on his whiteboard and he just seems like a down to earth guy, trying to encourage men to protect their freedom and to be yourself.
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MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Psl47Participant 678]

Watched this yesterday … watch till the end … its so f~~~ing sad…

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[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

Wholly sh*t, what a good video. If this video doesn’t convince guys to not marry, I do not know what will.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Excellent analysis and form a perfect counter point to the idiotic article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-rodman-licsw/women-run-like-hell-from_b_13690906.html?section=us_women

I do not have access to any social media (thank God) but for those of you who do I recommend sending the MGTOW Cost Benefit Analysis to “Dr Rodman” in the hope she might actually learn something.

[GrumpyParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Excellent analysis and form a perfect counter point to the idiotic article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-rodman-licsw/women-run-like-hell-from_b_13690906.html?section=us_women

I do not have access to any social media (thank God) but for those of you who do I recommend sending the MGTOW Cost Benefit Analysis to “Dr Rodman” in the hope she might actually learn something.

PP
Sorry it will just end up being a waste of time.
Women will always portray themselves as victims, just read her BS article.
This new fangled NRR BS is just that.

Listen ladies, if you want to ride the carousel for a decade or two, that’s your choice, just lose the expectation that any self respecting man (or woman even) would take on your baggage. You are in a “not relationship material” category due to you and your choices, now grow up and stop blaming men for your problems.

Advising most women to RUN LIKE HELL from NRR is kind of pointless as most women can barely waddle their fat asses to the corner store.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[experiencedParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

Excellent analysis and form a perfect counter point to the idiotic article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-rodman-licsw/women-run-like-hell-from_b_13690906.html?section=us_women

I do not have access to any social media (thank God) but for those of you who do I recommend sending the MGTOW Cost Benefit Analysis to “Dr Rodman” in the hope she might actually learn something.

PP
Sorry it will just end up being a waste of time.
Women will always portray themselves as victims, just read her BS article.
This new fangled NRR BS is just that.

Listen ladies, if you want to ride the carousel for a decade or two, that’s your choice, just lose the expectation that any self respecting man (or woman even) would take on your baggage. You are in a “not relationship material” category due to you and your choices, now grow up and stop blaming men for your problems.

So effing sad but true!

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2539-of-all-sad-words-of-tongue-or-pen-the-saddest

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[experiencedParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

Excellent analysis and form a perfect counter point to the idiotic article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-rodman-licsw/women-run-like-hell-from_b_13690906.html?section=us_women

I do not have access to any social media (thank God) but for those of you who do I recommend sending the MGTOW Cost Benefit Analysis to “Dr Rodman” in the hope she might actually learn something.

PP
Sorry it will just end up being a waste of time.
Women will always portray themselves as victims, just read her BS article.
This new fangled NRR BS is just that.

Listen ladies, if you want to ride the carousel for a decade or two, that’s your choice, just lose the expectation that any self respecting man (or woman even) would take on your baggage. You are in a “not relationship material” category due to you and your choices, now grow up and stop blaming men for your problems.

Advising most women to RUN LIKE HELL from NRR is kind of pointless as most women can barely waddle their fat asses to the corner store.

So effing sad but so true.
~~”the saddest words of all–what might have been”~

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

my favorite part is his whiteboard explanations.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 11]

This f~~~er made me understand precisely why prostitution was banned in ‘Murrica like no one else ever has. Thanks and will continue watching. It’s time well spent.

[MagusParticipant 424]

Good video. If I ever became rich though I think I’d put in a notice saying something like “wanted romantic travel mate for vacation to… Specs wanted… Apply here…

I wonder if that would work in craigs list?

[Anonymous 3]

His video about opportunities is also great!

[clint englandParticipant 341]

Thanks for the post, i like this guy. We really have some quality guys coming through the mgtow video space.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

“Why are so many guys adopting the NRR? Simple answer: sex. ”

WRONG. more and more men, mgtow or not are unwilling to commit, hence “non relationship relationship”. And the reason they aren’t willing is the quality of women have gone down to the point, where it isn’t logical to commit.

Men are logical (for the most part), and if it made logical sense to have a relationship, get married, etc, THEY WOULD DO SO. The reason why men are abandoning marriage and relationships is that it simply doesn’t make sense anymore. Today’s average woman is a psychotic fat slut who wouldn’t hesitate to bleed you dry and leave you on the side of the road for your money.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[LynxParticipant 302]

Nice.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Grumpy wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

Excellent analysis and form a perfect counter point to the idiotic article below:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-rodman-licsw/women-run-like-hell-from_b_13690906.html?section=us_women

I do not have access to any social media (thank God) but for those of you who do I recommend sending the MGTOW Cost Benefit Analysis to “Dr Rodman” in the hope she might actually learn something.

PP
Sorry it will just end up being a waste of time.
Women will always portray themselves as victims, just read her BS article.
This new fangled NRR BS is just that.

Listen ladies, if you want to ride the carousel for a decade or two, that’s your choice, just lose the expectation that any self respecting man (or woman even) would take on your baggage. You are in a “not relationship material” category due to you and your choices, now grow up and stop blaming men for your problems.

Advising most women to RUN LIKE HELL from NRR is kind of pointless as most women can barely waddle their fat asses to the corner store.

It goes far beyond than women being ridden hard by Chads for 10-20 years and maybe picking up a kid or two and maybe an STD.
It boils right down to the heavy bias divorce laws and bias in the family court system as well as the enforcement system used to collect Child Support and Alimony.
Why do you think that women are always the ones pushing for marriage and the ones who intitate 70% of all divorces? Why do you think they fight so hard for custody?

Answer: MONEY
In the US: the payer of Child support has to pay taxes on it; but not the recipient. And their is ZERO oversight on how Child Support Money is spent.
And the Government loves Alimony, because the Government gets to double dip on taxing Alimony. Once for the payer and once for the recipient.

As for enforcement: with linked databases and laws requiring the revocation of professional licenses if Child Support isn’t paid and no statue of limitations on back child support. It’s pretty ugly. A person who doesn’t pay can now also get their passport yanked. (ditto for back taxes).

And then there is community property. In some states…no matter if the wife was sitting on her butt eating Bon Bons and watching TV and doing nothing else. She is entitled to HALF of everything.

And if you need more proof it is about money. Take a very hard look at women’s hypergamy. Ever date or been married to women who earned more than you do and have a greater net worth?

It always boils down to MONEY.

And this is why Men must avoid marriage, cohabitation, and kids like the plague.
Because who wants to be a SLAVE?
In some states the Alimony lasts for LIFE!
Who the hell wants to take that risk?
Forget about retiring when your too old to work anymore.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

RealityBites wrote:

And then there is community property. In some states…no matter if the wife was sitting on her butt eating Bon Bons and watching TV and doing nothing else. She is entitled to HALF of everything.

NOT HALF

if there are kids involved, the mother gets 60-70% of marital assets because the court wants the assets to support the kids.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

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Don’t forget the support until the child reaches “of age”!

Just found out from my friend a month back that the child support can run until around age 24 or so if the kid decides to go to college (WTF?). I always thought it cut off at 18 since that’s when the kid is legally an adult. Just another way the courts bend over the men.

So if you have a kid at age 24, that means you’ll pay until you hit 48. That’s half your life paying child support, not even taking into consideration multiple children. Insane!

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Blue Skies wrote:

RealityBites wrote:

And then there is community property. In some states…no matter if the wife was sitting on her butt eating Bon Bons and watching TV and doing nothing else. She is entitled to HALF of everything.

NOT HALF

if there are kids involved, the mother gets 60-70% of marital assets because the court wants the assets to support the kids.

Depending on the country and area you don’t even get a penny.

Woman get 90% in divorce, Man pay debts higher then the remaining 10%

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

Jesus what a brilliant video. This guys attitude is VERY similar to mine.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

~BS wrote:

So if you have a kid at age 24, that means you’ll pay until you hit 48. That’s half your life paying child support, not even taking into consideration multiple children. Insane!

It gets even worse when women want to marry later and have kids later. What if you add 10 years to that 24/48 and you aren’t done paying child support until your pushing 60? Not only do you get to fork over a good chunk of money to the ex for most of your working years, but you’ll be in a position where you will probably be unable to save any significant amount for retirement during those years and you won’t have a hell of a lot of time when those payments end and retirement age to save anything. You’ll basically be broke your entire life and probably have to work a lot longer than you want.

A buddy of mine got spanked with a divorce…he has to fork over 2k a month. 2k a month post tax is really like 35-40k a year pre-tax. In addition to basically supporting the marital household still he has to get his own apartment, which means probably another 1000-1500 a month to fund a second household he wouldn’t have to if his marriage worked. Again…1000-1500 a month post tax is like 1500-2000 a month pre-tax…or another 18-24k a year.

So in the end he might gross 100k a year but 53-64k of that is going right straight down the divorce pit, plus he walked away with all the marital debts which he is still paying down years later and she walked away with a good chunk of his 401k after she refused to contribute to hers while she was working. Had he just stayed single he’d be able to live in a nicer place, comfortably max his 401k/IRA, wouldn’t be responsible for debt that according to him was primarily her out of control spending, retire much earlier with much more in the bank, and he’d still have a bundle of cash left over week to week for fun spending now. I know the guys loves his kids and doesn’t regret having them at all…but damn is p~~~ing away basically half of 20 years worth of wages + losing the advantage of compounding interest by saving for retirement when you are young worth it?

It kind of sucks because I’ve always wanted kids but I look at guys who got a deal like this and its just like wow…totally not worth it. If a kid cost 200-250k to raise these days…no problem…after all the tax breaks it would probably only boil down to an extra year of work per kid…but factor in a divorce and having to subsidize an ex and it would probably force me to work an extra 15-20 years…no thanks…just not worth it.

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