MGTOW, chaste, and practical

[1k205kParticipant 11]

Hello, fellow MGTOW. I’m… Well, you know. Forum names and all.

I’ve recently decided to go MGTOW (actually about a month ago) due to realizing that even when I “succeed” with women, it’s basically still me jumping through hoops to please them while simultaneously overlooking their flaws.

There were several incidents of bad judgment, poor treatment, and disrespectful behavior by the various women I was seeing, and I just asked myself…”Why?”

Why did I bother up become “good with women”and build up my little harems just to keep dealing with their inane bulls~~~?

So, I soft nexted all of them (I had 3 regular partners) and it’s now been roughly 4 weeks.

However, I have a pretty strong addiction to validation and pussy. To counteract it, I’ve been on nofap and I’ve been outright Catholic-style chaste. “Whoever looks at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery in his heart”.

I don’t even allow myself to entertain sexual thoughts, at least not intentionally.

It’s genuinely been great, but I still find myself craving that validation in the down moments.

Thing is, I see female validation as empty. They’re genuinely awful judges of just about everything. So, I feel as though I’m in a state of flyx where I’m learning to handle all of this.

Dating was my main form of socializing in the past, and given how f~~~ed up modern dating is, that means my socialization is now f~~~ed up.

I’m learning to heal myself from the modern dating culture.

Part of that involves making friends with men with similar world views who aspire to higher character.

It’s a little frustrating, as many men I’ve been good friends with in the past don’t get this decision or are even hostile to it.

They’ll talk about how it’s cowardly or lazy, but I really have to wonder…towards what end are you doing it?

If men were having children, I’d get it, but it seems to me that this is simply a case of ego indulgence.

As such, it’s my intention to remain chaste until I’m ready to have kids. And that will mean having absurd levels of frame control, property ownership, etc. Several years at a minimum – if ever. I’m looking forward to the journey.

Anyway – I’m looking forward to getting to know you men better. We all need a community, and such unconventional paths as ours make us difficult to relate to. Cheers.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Welcome!

1k205k wrote:

It’s a little frustrating, as many men I’ve been good friends with in the past don’t get this decision or are even hostile to it.

They’ll talk about how it’s cowardly or lazy, but I really have to wonder…towards what end are you doing it?

There’s a simple reason for this. People don’t like it when you seem to be happy doing something that is counter to their own attempt to be happy. It is a subtle invalidation of their methods. And the harsher their criticism of you, the more likely it is that they are, in fact, failing to find happiness while pretending otherwise.

The Emperor Has No Clothes. You’re supposed to go along with the illusion.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[1k205kParticipant 11]

The Emperor Has No Clothes. You’re supposed to go along with the illusion.

Of course, we know how that story ends. And men do seem to be rapidly catching up.

So. You know why I’m here. What’s your story?

[Anonymous 43]

I’ve recently decided to go MGTOW (actually about a month ago) due to realizing that even when I “succeed” with women, it’s basically still me jumping through hoops to please them while simultaneously overlooking their flaws.

winner winner chicken dinner!!!!!!!!

welcome to mgtow, amigo

[Anonymous 5]

A warm welcome.
What a terrific intro, thank you.

As you’ve stated so well, it’s the pandering to women’s changing whims that lead to more whims which should be our first clue to “Relations~~~s” It’s a cruel hamster wheel game,,,and they love it! It never stops. They’ll run you to an early death and feel no remorse what so ever.
One of the first things you learn to see is, the harder you try to be a “Good man”, to get their validation, the more they’ll be sexually repulsed by you. If she continues the relations~~~ then you know she sees you as a resource.

[Anonymous 6]

1k205k wrote:

Thing is, I see female validation as empty. They’re genuinely awful judges of just about everything.

Indeed.
Welcome.

[TomdickharryParticipant 6]

I’m new here. I’m thirty-four years old. I just joined this site about a week ago. I’m here to get to learn about as well as from others’ views. MGTOW is about Men Going Their Own Way, so to each their own. My main concerns are: the horrible effect feminism has had on society as a whole, the dangers that are facing men that are constantly ignored or covered up, and the overall anti-male demeanor that is ubiquitous.

I have seen these things in my day-to-day life since I was a teenager, but it has really hit home for me in the last few years. Facts are sobering to wishful or idealistic thinking. I am gay, and I think this brings a little bit of an objective view to what is wrong and nonsensical about feminism. In the past few years there has been a rise in the hate feminists feel toward gay men. This is actually a resurgence of the Red Stockings, for example, that think gay men are misogynistic…because they do not want to have sex with women or have anything to do with them. I have watched both straight and gay men cower to women. Whereas gay men can up and walk away because there is nothing in women that we fundamentally want, straight men – wanting sex, a relationship, family – search for some reasonable compromise with an ideology that abhors reason.

There seems to be something unique unto all men that I feel transcends sexuality, color, or creed that all men should delve into. It is not wrong to be male, and it’s not wrong to enjoy what that means.

[1k205kParticipant 11]

Tomdickharry wrote:

I am gay, and I think this brings a little bit of an objective view to what is wrong and nonsensical about feminism. In the past few years there has been a rise in the hate feminists feel toward gay men. This is actually a resurgence of the Red Stockings, for example, that think gay men are misogynistic…because they do not want to have sex with women or have anything to do with them.

I’ve been saying for awhile now, gay white men are no longer seen as minorities worth protecting. Or so it will be soon enough. Then it will be white women.

The moment you are no longer needed by the coalition, you will be discarded. The real target is anyone with merit or the ability to operate independently. It’s going to be straight white men, then straight white women and gay white men, then gay white women. After that, I predict Asian men will be the next target. Although Asian women are often seen as complicit with the white male patriarchy and thus tainted, too.

Ultimately, the victim parade requires oppressors, and as the numbers of straight white men dwindle, they will move on to the next most “oppressive” group.

[TronParticipant 285]

1k205k,

I understand how you feel. In retrospect relationships and marriage with women, for the most part, seemed like a one way street as you described. I have a wonderful daughter and now that she is grown and graduated from college I will not be having anymore children.

If you decide to have children please protect yourself. Almost 80% of children of divorce live with their mothers (mckinleyirvin.com). The minute that she is pregnant with your child your wife is locked into your income for at least 20 years.

I love my daughter like there is no tomorrow but if I had it to do over again I would have used a surrogate. It is very expensive but the price father’s pay with the present divorce system is even higher, both financially and emotionally.

After you have a child through a surrogate no woman can ever separate you from your child again. Also, do not ever move in with a woman. She can have her own place and you can have yours. This is true independence from women.

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

However, I have a pretty strong addiction to validation and pussy.

Yeah, think it is in the male genome, hard to fight but the first step is understanding it.

It’s genuinely been great, but I still find myself craving that validation in the down moments.
Thing is, I see female validation as empty. They’re genuinely awful judges of just about everything. So, I feel as though I’m in a state of flyx where I’m learning to handle all of this.

I am the same way. still encounter women who chase and it can feel fun for a while, but then you realize again, exactly that, it is empty because it is not based on you, it is based on them getting what they want.

It’s a little frustrating, as many men I’ve been good friends with in the past don’t get this decision or are even hostile to it.

Yep, same experience, i only told 2 friends, from that i just realize it is not worth telling anyone. People are always mention how they wish they had as much fun as me. This is how I express my MGTOW, just having more time and money for fun.

Overall, welcome, keep the faith, come here to share, no need to tell the blue pills, unless they clearly are looking to understand.

Let the good times roll

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