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So do we awaken to jewish / zionist influence on politics and media? How do we as MGTOW relate to these conspiracy facts against us normal folks.
MGTOW awaken.
Interesting. But… seeing as anti-semitism is on the rise again worldwide I might have to address this one so it doesn’t infect this community. Let me set a few things straight for you, stuff that hanging on stormfront won’t make you realize.
First off, let’s start with something well-recognized and get that out of the way. Jewish people often possess high IQ because of biology and their genetics. There are so many studies on this that I’m sure you’ll find them on your own. As a result of this they have an inclination towards mathematics and sciences alike. This is my first point, let’s move on to the second.
Out of the three main semitic religions (Christianity and Islam belongs to this category) only Judaism allows changing money and renting out money. Now take this fact and the fact that they are good at math, and you’ll quickly realize that they have had an huge headstart in banking and finance. I don’t have to tell you that finance is where you make the big money. This explains the wealth and why you might see a disproportionate amount of finance companies being jewish. Second point done, let’s move on to the third.
Jews are the most matriarchal people you can ever hope to find, ever. Your very jewishness is determined by your mother, if your father is african or asian does not matter. Jews are the only people on earth that follow a matriarchal bloodline. If you’ve ever been acquinted with a jew you’ll soon realize what importance they give their mothers, sisters or wives. If you’ve even seen a documentary on Garry Kasparov you’ll see that he’d prioritize his mother over his managers and listen to her no matter what the cost. AND he is considered the greatest chess player of all time (pinnacle of logical thinking). Why is this? How can one explain this phenomena? To be honest I don’t care, but I can share some thoughts and observations with you as to how this can be (otherwise just skip it):
Brain scientists have pointed out that the more your organism focuses on developing your left brain (logical part) the more less developed becomes your emotional makeup (right brain). The classical example of the “trade-offs” that occur in nature. There is alot of people who have observed that the less emotionally developed you are; the easier it is for a woman to manipulate you and control you. Women are (normally) far more emotionally intelligent (feel free to search for this term) than males and this is why they can have great influence over us. This is why women are superb at emotionally blackmailing their spouses.
So we end up with a cliche of people that hold great power financially, and are able to buy big media networks, and these people happen to be very matriarchal by nature. You can bet your bitcoins that these people (through media and hollywood) will influence others with their very own thought patterns and beliefs which happens to be feministic in nature. So are jews a reason why matriarchal structures are manifesting in society? Sure, one of the reasons, but this is a more of a gender war than anything else. So any conspiracy theories you might have, trust me I’ve read them all and researched them all… some things are much more simpler than what our logical brain wants to accept.
If this makes sense to you or if you completely disapprove is up to you. That’s not really the big issue here and we should not focus too much on stuff beyond our level of direct impact. Most of us can only influence and change the environment in our direct vicinity and that is where everyone should start. Changing yourself and refusing to take part in a system that is against your very true self. That is MGTOW.
…So are jews a reason why matriarchal structures are manifesting in society? Sure, one of the reasons, but this is a more of a gender war than anything else. So any conspiracy theories you might have, trust me I’ve read them all and researched them all… some things are much more simpler than what our logical brain wants to accept. If this makes sense to you or if you completely disapprove is up to you. That’s not really the big issue here and we should not focus too much on stuff beyond our level of direct impact. Most of us can only influence and change the environment in our direct vicinity and that is where everyone should start. Changing yourself and refusing to take part in a system that is against your very true self. That is MGTOW.
Well put!
I’ve also slogged through the ethno-nationalist sphere and have made similar arguments but you make your points very concisely and effectively.
A group of people consistently acting in self-interest to the detriment of the interests of an out-group casts the shadow of a grand conspiracy. That Jews are not engaged in a grand-conspiracy against a gentile host nation does not mean that their behaviors and strategies should not be recognized as different and thus possibly in conflict with the survival strategies of the out-group.
People with a universalized/fungible skill set will have different constraints and opportunities from people who know how to service a specific local market exceptionally well. Women reach the height of their manipulative power early in life and have a precious few years to exert this power to ensure provisioning through her ‘sour’ years – men (ideally) gradually accumulate power and have the capacity to indefinitely offset the negative social consequences of aging with the ‘value’ they either represent or have accumulated.
Different groups have different survival strategies and impose their will onto the surrounding environment to bring it into conformity with their preferences. If you want to minimize the impact of Jewish macro behavior, then develop a counter-strategy that brings finance capitalism, mass media, legalism, and imposed universalism into obsolescence.
– The internet is a credible threat to mass media.
– Itinerant living allows one to choose the most desirable legal climate to be subject to.
– Debt is unlikely to control you behavior when the culture you are a part of is not exclusively driven by Moloch worship.
– Universalism/Egalitarianism is gradually loosing caché with a variety of populations and is likely to be supplanted by something which recognizes the significance of distinction, identity, race, and gender.
All the building blocks are available to construct a new way of life which promotes your ethnically-informed strategy and insulates your tribe from the competitive strategies of other groups. I believe it’s really all a matter of pioneering and promoting that way of life and demonstrating the superiority of your model relative to an alternative dominant model.
Tempered, concerning Jews and moneylending – in Medieval Europe, it was forbidden for Christians to lend money to eachother, and Jews, being the only religious minority, were permitted to do so.
More information here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnkP5IIclpY
Also, females do not have more “emotional intelligence”, rather, men have been conditioned to print more pussy passes than the Reichsbank printed notes in 1923.
Finally, bitcoins are a scam if anything because they do not meet the Aristotelian criteria for money (Politika, VI).
Jews are part of the reason for MGTOW. Hollywood and the media generally are under Jewish control and spread pro feminist and anti-male propaganda for a start. Jews are also the main proponents of multiculturalism which is slowly destroying the white (and only the white) countries of the world.
I’ll leave it there as I appreciate this isn’t Stormfront and these views may not be welcome here.
More truth we can’t talk about here.
MGTOW just a stepping stone up the pyramid
Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
Anonymous1Here is some interesting things I have been thinking about lately. Ever since the Roman Empire, Europe has predominantly worshipped the Hebrew God (Jehovah). The Middle East and North Africa is also worshipping the Hebrew God (Allah/Jehovah). Christians will deny this, but it’s historically true. They both worship the God of Abraham and hence are called Abrahamic religions. When I was a boy, we used to sing songs at church. One of them went like this “Father Abraham, Had Many Sons, Many Sons had Father Abraham, I am one of them and so are you…” Keep in mind that everyone at my church was of North Western European descent. We are not descended from Abraham (a man from Ur) in the old Middle East. It is easily proven with genetics too. All of the bull s~~~ about British being the 13th tribe of Israel. Its all make believe. The fact is there is very little evidence that any of the stories in the Old Testament are true. Yet they were and still are taught as history.
Yet, Christians will have you believe that we as (Europeans) are descended from the Hebrews. They have even gone so far as implement Circumcision as standard practice here in USA. I am not blaming the Jewish people for this because it was the Roman Empire that forced everyone to convert to worshipping a Middle Eastern Deity, but it is strange if you think about it. Why are all of my people bowing down to a Middle Eastern Deity? Why am I Circumcised? Why is our lord and savior a Jewish Carpenter, who may not have even existed?
Again, I am not blaming Jews. I am blaming the Romans. Just something to think about. The Roman name for Jupiter was JOVE. It sounds like Ja-O-Va (Jehovah). There is something awfully wrong with all of this, if you ask me.
(Allah/Jehovah)
The Roman name for Jupiter was JOVE. It sounds like Ja-O-Va (Jehovah)
Actually JOVE sounds more like Yahweh if you ask me…and that makes sence because Yahweh isnt the same as Yehowah.
Yahweh was the national god of the kingdoms of Israel and Judah and prior to that the god El ( as in IsraEL) was worshipped.
El has the same word root as allah and both mean “the god” not god.
El was the highest god of the babylonian pantheon.
I just realise how long it would take to explain everything right so I just copy a passage from wikipedia to show you how it plays together:Yahweh and the rise of monotheism[edit]
Pre-exilic Israel, like its neighbours, was polytheistic,[48] and Israelite monotheism was the culmination of a unique set of historical circumstances.[49][citation not found] The original god of Israel was El, as the name demonstrates—its probable meaning is “may El rule” or some other sentence-form involving the name of El.[50] Yahweh and El merged at religious centres such as Shechem, Shiloh and Jerusalem,[51] with El’s name becoming a generic term for “god” and Yahweh, the national god, appropriating many of the older supreme god’s titles such as Shaddai (Almighty) and Elyon (Most High).[52]Asherah, formerly the wife of El, was worshipped as Yahweh’s consort,[53] and various biblical passages indicate that her statues were kept in his temples in Jerusalem, Bethel, and Samaria.[54] Yahweh may also have appropriated Anat, the wife of Baal, as his consort, as Anat-Yahu (“Anat of Yahu,” i.e., Yahweh) is mentioned in 5th century records from the Jewish colony at Elephantine in Egypt.[55] A goddess called the Queen of Heaven was also worshipped, probably a fusion of Astarte and the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar.[54] Worship to Baal and Yahweh coexisted in the early period of Israel’s history, but they were considered irreconcilable after the 9th century, following the efforts of King Ahab and his queen Jezebel to elevate Baal to the status of national god,[56] although the cult of Baal did continue for some time.[57]
The worship of Yahweh alone began at the earliest with Elijah in the 9th century BCE, but more likely with the prophet Hosea in the 8th; even then it remained the concern of a small party before gaining ascendancy in the exilic and early post-exilic period.[48] The process by which this came about might be described as follows: In the early tribal period each tribe would have had its own patron god; when kingship emerged the state promoted Yahweh as the national god of Israel, supreme over the other gods, and gradually Yahweh absorbed all the positive traits of the other gods and goddesses; finally, in the national crisis of the exile, the very existence of other gods was denied.[9]
Now what about Yehowah?
Strong´s Concordance says:
Jehovah = “the existing One”
Definiton: the proper name of the one true Godnow Yahweh
Definition: the proper name of the God of IsraelWhat did god say to Moses when he appeared to him as a burning bush:
He said (in hebrew) : Ehyeh asher Ehyeh
Its usually translated (falsly) as whether “I am who I am” or ” I am/I was who I will be”
(btw, if thats true, it looks like god was refusing to answer the question)
Why? – because ehyeh can mean: I was, I am or I will be…depending on the context.
But…there was no context given, because god only said his name.
So I assume it means all 3 at once.
I believe it means: “I was/am/will be…who(asher)…I was/am/will be.Rev 1:8 :
I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”someone who was, is and will be is eternal.
So Yehowah is the eternal one. The one true god.I have said it before and I will say it again\ …. JEWS ARE PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM OR JEWISHNESS.
JUDAISM / JEWS = GOOD
ZIONISM = BADPlease do not confuse the two – they are opposites. Like everyday Germans and Nazis.
Anonymous1Actually JOVE sounds more like Yahweh if you ask me…and that makes sence because Yahweh isnt the same as Yehowah.
Yes, I know. The difference comes from the Latin ‘J’ sounding like an ‘I’. The Latin ‘V’ sounds like a ‘U’. Jehovah – Iehouah – YaHaWe – Yehowah are all the same thing in Hebrew characters (Yod He Ve He). Hebrew spelling did not include the vowels, it is the consonants that are important. Read the “Zohar” for more information on the pronunciation of the true name of God (the Tetragrammaton).
“El” means the Lord. It is not the name of God. Allah comes from Ellu meaning The Lord. In old days it was not permitted to use the name of God so they would call him “The Lord.” The Lord El is also called Adonai by the Hebrews also meaning The Lord.
Anonymous43I have said it before and I will say it again\ …. JEWS ARE PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. ZIONISM IS NOT JUDAISM OR JEWISHNESS.
JUDAISM / JEWS = GOOD
ZIONISM = BADPlease do not confuse the two – they are opposites. Like everyday Germans and Nazis.
Well said, Yumbo!
May I add:
WHITE FOLK / BLACK FOLK = GOOD
RACIST BLACK PANTHER / RACIST KKK = BADHeavicidal
Very informative, Heavicidal. You would make a great choreographer! I see you fed your brain a zilloin puzzle pieces of history…
Anonymous1Very informative, Heavicidal. You would make a great choreographer! I see you fed your brain a zilloin puzzle pieces of history…
Thanks! I asked a lot of questions when I was boy. This got me into trouble at church and school. I found myself spending a lot of time in the Library going through dusty old books. Religions and their history has always fascinated me. I grew up fundamentalist Christian so its been a big part of my life.
I will say this, for may years I have PERSONALLY been angered by AIPAC and ADL organizations for having complete political control and sway of the US congress. Us Americans don’t have such political pull in Israel (after all we supposedly saved the Jewish people’s ass in WW2 didn’t we?) and I find it infuriating that we don’t even have as much pull in our own government as these special interests. My resentment is not regulated to just pro-Israel though. It is clear Saudi Arabia has ties to the US that are extremely improper as do China with certain political parties. However many pro-Israeli organizations also have a strangle hold on US media and influence our foreign and domestic policy.
To the point where they actually work to prevent the US from having reform candidates such as Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, Dr. Ron Paul, and Dr. Rand Paul. The more you look the more you DO see clear individuals, connections, networks, and organizations that are completely against American political foreign and domestic policy interests and instead push Congress towards satisfying foreign nation states. Basically a form of treason that goes unpunished and calling it out is dismissed.
Let me put in context where many of will understand.
Islam is not a ethnicity. Yet it is clear US media and politicians bend over backwards to accommodate Islam in a radically different handling than they do of American gun owners and even other types of American citizens. Further, this privilege Islam enjoys even extends to people of jewish ethnicity, while white males are demonized (thank god I’m a beaner). It seems to be perfectly fine to demonize a white man till he says “actually I’m jewish” and suddenly you see an about face in the race-baiter’s (irony abounds here I know) discussion. Even David Chappell joked about it recently how it is difficult to compare history of oppression with a person who claims to be jewish.
It’s a joke, but a joke rooted in truth. The events of the holocaust are WEAPONIZED against reformers who want to help bring America back to a non-interventionist and more Constitutionally outlined path.
Yes, I know. The difference comes from the Latin ‘J’ sounding like an ‘I’. The Latin ‘V’ sounds like a ‘U’.
I had 5 years of latin in school…latin letters sound like they sound in german. There is no different pronounciation and V sounds like V.
If thats not correct please provide me a link to check if youre correct.
So JOVE sound exactly as Yahweh but not as Yehowah. Following my explanation that would mean Romans didnt praise Yehowah the one true god, but Yahweh the god of the israelian tribe that evolved from EL a polytheistic god from the babylonian pantheon.Jehovah – Iehouah – YaHaWe- Yehowah are all the same thing in
No they arent. Jehovah is english for Yehowah and Iehouah is probably greek. But Yahweh isnt the same.
Hebrew characters (Yod He Ve He). Hebrew spelling did not include the vowels, it is the consonants that are important.
I think I know what you were trying to say. I spend some time discovering the hebrew language. Im absolutely fimiliar with such basic stuff.
I know the Tetragram works for both names, thats the trick you know.Read the “Zohar” for more information on the pronunciation of the true name of God (the Tetragrammaton
More information? Maybe you are the one with false info? Did that ever cross your mind? You dont understand the perpuse of books like the Zohar.
In old days it was not permitted to use the name of God so they would call him “The Lord.”
Yea i know such basic stuff….
The Lord El is also called Adonai by the Hebrews also meaning The Lord.
you are so imprecise…El being called Adonai/Lord doesnt mean it has the same meaning. Also El is singular and Adonai is plural.
Lord is a title for example and not a name.
Thats like saying Trump and President is the same thing or same word, just because people call Trump President.“El” means the Lord. It is not the name of God. Allah comes from Ellu meaning The Lord.
I said word ROOT not same word…anyway EL does mean (the)god and eloha means (the)goddess. It does not mean Lord as you say.
Its a fact, you can look it up.Never heard of Ellu…but when I type “Ellu means lord” into google search look what comes up…
DJINN, SIHR AND SPIRITISM. Volume 3
ENCYCLOPEDIC DICTIONARY OF DJINN, SIHR AND SPIRITISM LANGUAGES
Secret Societies: Gardiner’s Forbidden Knowledge : Revelations about …Allah translated means “the god” not lord. Please look it up if you dont believe me.
Anonymous1I had 5 years of latin in school…latin letters sound like they sound in german. There is no different pronounciation and V sounds like V.
I don’t know German. In English I was taught to pronounce the V more like a W for Latin. Anyways I agree with you JOVE = Yahweh and Jehovah = Yehowah. Just like how Joshua = Yeshua when translated back.
So JOVE sound exactly as Yahweh but not as Yehowah. Following my explanation that would mean Romans didnt praise Yehowah the one true god, but Yahweh the god of the israelian tribe that evolved from EL a polytheistic god from the babylonian pantheon.
So your whole argument rests on one vowel difference in a word that has very old origins. Sometimes vowels get added and dropped over time. Especially when translated to foreign languages. A vowel can be added at the end of El so it sounds like Allah eventually. It seems clear to me when the language involved never used vowels in their spelling. This would leave room for various translations sounding a little bit different. It does not mean the word is actually different though. It is not worth arguing with you, since you already have made up your mind that Yehowah is the one true god and Yahweh is not. Anyways, I agree with you about the Romans worshipping the same god of Israel.
Anonymous1More information? Maybe you are the one with false info? Did that ever cross your mind? You dont understand the perpuse of books like the Zohar.
I read a nice translation of the Zohar quite a few years ago. The Rabbi had each page dissected with the meanings of each line and all that. It was very informative especially about what the Tetragrammaton means forwards and reversed. It was a good intro for Kabbalah. I’ve never claimed to be infallible, sorry for posting too much information. I’ll stop now.
I don’t know German. In English I was taught to pronounce the V more like a W for Latin. Anyways I agree with you JOVE = Yahweh and Jehovah = Yehowah. Just like how Joshua = Yeshua when translated back.
Oh there we go…like I said german pronounciation is the same as latin pronounciation. In english you pronounce our (german/latin)
V just like a W just like in Volkswagen.
In english you pronounce it like Wolkswagon( Im german, so when americans say volkswagon, they actually pronounce it wolkswagon in german ( or latin ), but in german/latin the V doesnt sound like a W, it sounds exactly like an F.Now say JoFe in english and you know what the romans said and what it sounded like. If you consider that JOVE is identical to Jahveh from hearing.
So your whole argument rests on one vowel difference in a word that has very old origins
Im not trying to argue with you. Im trying to support here.
Im aware that it might come across like im trying to be a smartass and compete with you over who has the most intellectual dick.
Im not though.
To me you are already an intellectual by investigating this, but i see several mistakes in your assumptions.since you already have made up your mind that Yehowah is the one true god and Yahweh is not.
Thats absolutely right … I made up my mind about this before… not too long ago…but I researched this like a mofo for a while and I feel like I have more insight into this than you. And I do…
but in german/latin the V doesnt sound like a W, it sounds exactly like an F.
Now say JoFe in english and you know what the romans said and what it sounded like
Oops this is total crap what I wrote here. V is pronounced as W not F.
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