MGTOW and the IBMoR

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

I had recently begun watching videos from a black YouTuber named Oshay Duke Jackson. I was attracted to his channel because he appeals to young black American men and tries to be a good role model for them by explaining many red pill concepts and the idea of bettering oneself to get out of the “crabs in a bucket” scenario.

Yesterday, however, he posted a video called “Why Black Men Dislike the Mgtow Movement” and a follow-up today called “The Political Ignorance of Mgtow“. In these videos (I’ve provided links), he argues that feminism is a white man’s problem because they were in the positions of power when feminism started gaining momentum and that it’s primarily holding power today because white men support it.

This bothers me a bit because I think the guy has some great videos and advice; he’s in med school in Poland, for Chrissakes. This guys walks the walk and talks the talk, but attacks MGTOW out of the blue. Not to mention what he’s talking about seems to be more like MRAs, but MGTOW isn’t a response to feminism, it’s a practical way of dealing with female hypergamy and gynocentrism. Feminism in the Western world is just a political manifestation of those ideas and the MRM is just a (usually necessary) response to those movements.

I’d post something in the comments, but it doesn’t seem like I’d have much sway in those circles, being white and all. What do you guys think?

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Hes blue-pill.Puts you in a comfort zone with red-pill truth and then pencils you in to indoctrinate you with blue-pill bulls~~~. Kina like someone who getting ready to f~~~ you. Makes you feel safe, makes an appeal by how you and him can relate and slowly bends you over telling you everything thats about to happen will be ok. Disregard him, hes blue pill. His tactic is a form of conclusionary bias.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

KingOfTheSea wrote:

Why Black Men Dislike the Mgtow Movement

Too many examples and testimonies already show how/argue the “mgtow” cultural explosion ORIGINATED in the black communities – with 70% of black American women unmarried. The topic was actually discussed on Oprah & Tyra.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Also dont beilieve what he titles the bulls~~~ hes feeding you. Its a form of social proofing except theres no proof. He however intends to make people or you beilieve by way of falsely asserting it.Its advertising an idea of conforming to the actions of others under the assumption its correct behavior by suggesting MGTOW is racist. Last time i checked its MGTOW, what havent MGTOW.Com told white men they didnt black men that wasnt true about women.

Didnt read the sites banner as WMGTOW. Dudes a fukin racist. Anytime anyone inserts color on their own its racist.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Keymaster wrote:

KingOfTheSea wrote:

Why Black Men Dislike the Mgtow Movement

Too many examples and testimonies already show how/argue the “mgtow” cultural explosion ORIGINATED in the black communities – with 70% of black American women unmarried. The topic was actually discussed on Oprah.

A man of facts, nice!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Execration wrote:

A man of facts

Here it is – with testimony from black men and women.

“How feminism created the wall of silence in the black community”.
/video/black-women-and-mgtow/

The 70% stat is not even about them being “unmarried”. 70% are SINGLE.
Thats’ astonishing.

So that idea “Why Black Men Dislike Mgtow” is a bunch of mashugana based on the title alone.

KingOfTheSea wrote:

he argues that feminism is a white man’s problem

Looks more like it’s everybody’s problem. But it did afford men the luxury of walking away. When woman points her finger at you and says “I need you like a fish needs a bicycle”… you don’t argue with her anymore. You take her word for it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

KingOfTheSea wrote:

I had recently begun watching videos from a black YouTuber named Oshay Duke Jackson. I was attracted to his channel because he appeals to young black American men and tries to be a good role model for them by explaining many red pill concepts and the idea of bettering oneself to get out of the “crabs in a bucket” scenario.

Oshay Duke Jackson appeals mostly to blue pillers.
Hardcore Tito appeals to young black American men, especially black mgtows.
It was Tito who destroyed all of the ghetto myths and talking points that black feminists keep repeating. He has gotten under their skin so much that they doxxed him.
Even after the klingon bitches doxxed him, he is still producing content to this very day!
His philosophy is called “RPB” and it’s exclusively for black men.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

KingOfTheSea wrote:

In these videos (I’ve provided links), he argues that feminism is a white man’s problem because they were in the positions of power when feminism started gaining momentum and that it’s primarily holding power today because white men support it.

I have to ask, has he ever actually MET any black women?

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

sidecar wrote:

KingOfTheSea wrote:

In these videos (I’ve provided links), he argues that feminism is a white man’s problem because they were in the positions of power when feminism started gaining momentum and that it’s primarily holding power today because white men support it.

I have to ask, has he ever actually MET any black women?

They take Femminism to another level

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

Keymaster wrote:

Looks more like it’s everybody’s problem

That’s how I see it, which is why it confuses me why he’s so adamant about going down this line of thinking. Again, MGTOW is to combat female hypergamy, not feminism. Feminism arose because societies became advanced enough. At some point, no matter which race or country, it would have started.

How about this.. you are all my bros…
Funny..the white and black bros are busy chatting this one up
and my Asian programming pal is busy inventing new s~~~…

No joke.

Zuberi Tau wrote:

Oshay Duke Jackson appeals mostly to blue pillers.

Yeah. What a let-down, but it seems like he’s eager enough to point the finger. Ah well.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Execration wrote:

They take Femminism to another level

Yeah, the basement.

White women at least try to maintain the lie that feminism is about “equality”. Black women don’t bother. Their take on it is feminism at its most basic: “Gimme gimme gimme gimme!”

KingOfTheSea wrote:

That’s how I see it, which is why it confuses me why he’s so adamant about going down this line of thinking.

A lot of black men, unfortunately, are hell bent on pinning everything on whites, no matter how illogical. It’s the foundation of their whole mental framework, and that’s really, really sad, because it’s exactly that sort of thinking that sustains the crab bucket.

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

One black man doesn’t speak for all black men thank God. I knew once some factions attempted to inject black vs. white in MGTOW a certain group of Black American men would eventually splinter into something else; some other group. I have nothing against IBMoR, as those men are just going their own way.

I’ve been asked to “join” but I’ve always declined. I respect the right for a man to go his own way, period. If you want to get married, fine. PUA, fine. MRA, fine. IBMoR, fine. MGTOW, fine. None of the above, fine.

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

Rolling Tin Fist wrote:

One black man doesn’t speak for all black men thank God.

Yeah, even in his own comments section, there were a lot of guys arguing with him.

I’ve been asked to “join” but I’ve always declined. I respect the right for a man to go his own way, period. If you want to get married, fine. PUA, fine. MRA, fine. IBMoR, fine. MGTOW, fine. None of the above, fine.

That’s how I feel: As long as everyone minds their own and stays out of my space, there’s no issue.

sidecar wrote:

A lot of black men, unfortunately, are hell bent on pinning everything on whites, no matter how illogical. It’s the foundation of their whole mental framework, and that’s really, really sad, because it’s exactly that sort of thinking that sustains the crab bucket.

Yeah, I’m realizing more and more he’s not really interested in trying to alter that mentality. Too bad.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I started reading about IBMOR (Introspective Black Men of Reform) yesterday. I wouldn’t have much criticism for IBMORs if they would let go of the white supremacy rants. To me, throwing men of any race under the bus—who could be on your side—isn’t productive. The advice they give about living independently and not getting into arguments with women is positive. Their ideas of polygamy isn’t—not unless they can create their own sovereign territory and laws. If they hope to find submissive black American women to join their communities: good luck!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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