MGTOW and respect for everyone… including women.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

As I am seeing it, the only way I can really show anyone respect, and that goes for women, and anyone, is if the terms by which I relate to the person are terms I can agree with.  If I am manipulated, forced to bargain, feel I need to pay for things, be vulnerable, and am coerced into doing things, I lack respect for myself, and others.  I can agree to terms and make commitments, but if you try to do it through bullying, weaseling, or seduction, then how do I have respect for anyone, and that includes women?

Framed in the right context, I see MGTOW is the only way a man could have a respectful relationship with a woman, and get them respect they seek.  And from this, and this respect, I can also commit to things.

Please feel free to comment and tweak on this.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I don’t respect women by default. Respect is earned which women don’t realize.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[kizellParticipant 368]

A very insightful post.  It does seem that romantic relationships can promote bitterness.

I agree that I have respected women a little more when I was single.  But most importantly,  I respected myself a lot more.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

MGTOW is not definable..not an absolute. It’s different for every man. You can choose to respect or not. I personally have a hard time respecting even myself..I’m human..fallible..what’s to respect about that? I respect ideals and things that are more than just me as a stupid human, but I am a verb, so I am constantly changing. 😉

[Anonymous 25]

I agree with CrazyCanuck and intended to post the same even before reading his post.

Respect is earned. It is not as of right as women seem to think it is. If a woman does not respect men (not just me), then she does not deserve my attention and she wont get it.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I’ve reached the stage where respect must be earned no matter who it is in front of me.

Friendship also along those lines.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

I don’t respect women by default. Respect is earned which women don’t realize.

Well, I see anyone as a person, and see what terms I can exist with them.  I don’t care what their gender is in regards to it.  For myself, I can give what said “sane” Women Rights folk say they want for women, even if they have other agenda.  It is equality in treatment that should be the point.  It is NOT showing favoritism to anyone just because they demand it, expect it and whine about it.  It is saying no to everyone also, unless it makes sense, and I don’t care what your status, standing, gender or wealth is.  It is my job to have good terms with how I deal with everyone, and that is with women also.  I don’t care if you play, “But not all women are like that” or whatever, I don’t care.  I can also be aware of weaknesses you state you have, and understand that, but no way am I got to get guilt for stuff I had nothing to do with, and I make sure your victim card is denied with me.  I will do this with everyone.  People who are not givers, or at least seek to do fair exchanges are takers, and such individuals don’t deserve my time.  They can go starve themselves off, and learn they need to bring something.  I do them a favor by this, so they learn.  On that, if I fall for them, it is my fault, not their fault for allowing it.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Personally I run on the system that everyone gets a basic level of respect, namely and limited to the common decency afforded to any human being unless and until they prove themselves either unworthy of even that limited respect or worthy of something more substantial.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I think it is smart and classy being polite and gentlemanly with everyone – even people who disrespect you. But politeness does not mean respect or trust or anything else.
“Speak to her like she’s a lady, treat her like a whore” – or something like that

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Respect is earned, not given.

This thread smell too much like concern trolling.

 

 

[Anonymous 1]

Respect is earned, not given.

And political correctness is NOT respect.

Just pointing this out…

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Spray those unruly whales with a fire hose.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I’ll modify a little as I post here: I will be initially civil to all who inhabit a civilized society with me.  Respect, like trust, is available in abundance… to all who earn it, and in proportionate allotments, accordingly.

I measure the respect I dole out the way I dole out my cash: only to those people who have made the same efforts to earn it from me… as the efforts I made to come by my own.  I worked pretty hard for the respect, trust and cash that I have.  I will not be giving them away to anyone who doesn’t make similar effort to earn them from me.

I have/will voluntarily donate money to the charities that support combat veterans, who I can never truly repay.  I have been/will be forced by my government to contribute cash to charities an entitlements to women to whom I owe nothing.  That cash is real cash.  Perhaps some of the women who have benefitted from those forced transfers of unearned cash believe that they can also engineer a similar mechanism for unearned respect.  They may believe that they have succeeded, but that respect is not real respect.  Deep down, we, and they, all know the difference.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 42]

Yea right, respect these crazy women wielding the M-16 of justice, while everyone’s blood and guts are flying all about you, guts from other women blasting their men with bullets of justice! F~~~ THAT!

I respect the awesome power the law has given women to utterly ruin men! The Justice system has already pulled the pin on female grenades! I don’t play with grenades, BECAUSE I RESPECT GRENADES! ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF GRENADES!

 

 

[eng_87Participant 122]

Great thoughts above,

I’m new to MGTOW but the way I read it is that and understand the movement and philosophy, is MGTOW is respect for all, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. A man going his own way is merely not being under the thumb, of not prostrating yourself for the whims of others. Be it man or woman. A MGTOW can be in a relationship, be single, live in a hut on a mountain or have a harem in the city. As long as he is in control of his will and does his own thing.

I still respect women, I do, that respect is to be earned however, and until then, the respect afforded is the same as to that I would give a rude child or annoying cats (dogs excluded because they show true unconditional love).

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Respect?? NO. no no….

“Basic decency” and “basic courtesy”, yes. Happily!

But “RESPECT” for a woman? That’s not up to me. That’s up to HER.
And until she gets off her lazy ass and WORKS for it, she will get ZERO.

Don’t get confused and have no illusions. Because women don’t “respect” you either. Count on it – even when you WORKED for it. We see this all the time, when they knowingly sign up here at a forum that says “men only”. The way women hold their hands out for it , demand it, and throw the word “respect” around like a frisbee – while having no concept of the word – is a disgrace.

Women who don’t even HAVE basic decency think they should have “respect”!!

Just look at this s~~~:

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A man who views her properly???

A man should “view her” according to how she presents herself and her own behavior. There is no other alternative. Who brainwashed these people? She’s a gift to YOU, but you’re not a gift to her. You’re scum – even when you spend your money on her and flatter her. You’re supposed to respect her, but she won’t respect you. That’s how skewed and f~~~ed the female concept of “respect” is.

I will still stand up when a bitch approaches the dinner table because I have something known as class, manners and basic decency. But that’s not “respect”. Far from it. Even if you loathe her very presence, you can put that s~~~ on. I might even enjoy it and let her THINK it’s a sign of “respect”. This is how have worked for female bosses and continued to take their money. Not my problem she’s confused.

Everybody here knows it. You can all work for a boss you don’t respect. RIGHT?? What he/she sees every day from you is manners, politesse and basic decency. That’s how we all know there is a difference. But a woman wouldn’t even know the difference between “love” and not getting spit on. That’s HER problem.

If everyone is entitled to “respect”, then the people who work for it can’t be outstanding or exceptional.

I can’t believe these basics are so vastly misunderstood by grown adults. Women are the sex that gathers together and VOTE FOR LAWS that say she isn’t even capable of giving consent or making up her own mind. You can’t “respect” that. It’s impossible.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

eng_87 wrote:

(dogs excluded because they show true unconditional love).

You’re right about that!

And may I add; f~~~ the cats! they act just like women, so f~~~ them!

 

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Anonymous wrote:

eng_87 wrote:

(dogs excluded because they show true unconditional love).

You’re right about that! And may I add; f~~~ the cats! they act just like women, so f~~~ them!

Dogs show true unconditional love?? Bulls~~~. They are subservient creatures who “love” you only because you are the pack leader.
I don’t want to start a s~~~storm, but I actually like cats. They relate to you as an equal, and not like a master.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 42]

Russky wrote:

They relate to you as an equal, and not like a master.

Just like I said, they’re women with four paws! I don’t need any equals, I am the master! If I were to have a cat, just like a woman, she/it would live outside the home and would have to feed it’s self!

I may as well have a pet crow, but I keep killing them for their obnoxious, intrusive, and rude behavior. They don’t like me, neither do cats, and I don’t try to kill cats, nor do I bother with them, their just like women to me, I leave them alone…

But I can honestly say (unlike women) Not All Cats Are Like That…. I’ve met a few cats I liked, but few and far between…

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