MGTOW, A Rant on the new crop of MGTOW

[RennieParticipant]

Red pill rage is something they just have to work through, don’t hate them for it. Let them vent and get rid of the stuff in the basement.

They should get over it within six months to a year.

[MochaParticipant 90]

Rennie wrote:

Red pill rage is something they just have to work through, don’t hate them for it. Let them vent and get rid of the stuff in the basement.
They should get over it within six months to a year.

Except some of them aren’t getting over it. They’re using the community as a tampon for their never ending crybaby s~~~.

We’re all on the same page about new guys going through Red Pill Rage. But the rage needs to end at some point. Not for us, but for the people raging. It isn’t healthy. It isn’t reasonable.

I get guys like KM that have made it their mission in life to be that endless compassion figure. Saint KeyMaster. That’s amazing, bro, but that ain’t me, and that ain’t my version of MGTOW.

I see MGTOW like a merit badge. You put in your time and work hard to understand it. You pin it to your chest, and you move on to other things applying the knowledge you’ve gained. Or maybe MGTOW is like Alcoholics Anonymous. I’ve put in my time, cleaned my life up, and moved on. But I keep coming back to these meetings and seeing people that started long before I got here that are still on step 1. I can’t feel sorry for these helpless cases, and coddling them isn’t doing them any good.

It’s easy to say, “Just ignore it.” But when more than half of all of the content on this forum is some variation of “Women suck, my life is sad.” It gets old. At some point it stops being about going your own way and it becomes ending up here and bitching about how hard it is to move on.

Am I way off base here?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I would say there is a difference between someone who actually does something, and someone who is a fan or believer in that something. You can see men who end up believing in MGTOW, but don’t do it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 29]

Mocha wrote:

Warhorse dropping bombs of wisdom.
Red pill rage, depression, blue pill ennui can only last so f~~~ing long. I’m sick of seeing these posts here and over on the mgtow reddit. At some point these mother f~~~ing crybabies need to get their s~~~ together and start GOING their OWN WAY. Get your ass up and live.
To quote Warhorse “I’m tired of feeling sorry for these c~~~s.”

Well I guess both you and Warhorse forgot somewhere in primordial mists of time that not all of us are cut from the same cloth and some just don’t learn as quick as others. But let’ s remember one fundamental thing that cry babies and even mangina’s and white knights are still men and let’s not throw them under the bus just because they upset our comfort level.

[RennieParticipant]

Mocha wrote:

Rennie wrote:

Red pill rage is something they just have to work through, don’t hate them for it. Let them vent and get rid of the stuff in the basement.They should get over it within six months to a year.

Except some of them aren’t getting over it. They’re using the community as a tampon for their never ending crybaby s~~~.
We’re all on the same page about new guys going through Red Pill Rage. But the rage needs to end at some point. Not for us, but for the people raging. It isn’t healthy. It isn’t reasonable.
I get guys like KM that have made it their mission in life to be that endless compassion figure. Saint KeyMaster. That’s amazing, bro, but that ain’t me, and that ain’t my version of MGTOW.
I see MGTOW like a merit badge. You put in your time and work hard to understand it. You pin it to your chest, and you move on to other things applying the knowledge you’ve gained. Or maybe MGTOW is like Alcoholics Anonymous. I’ve put in my time, cleaned my life up, and moved on. But I keep coming back to these meetings and seeing people that started long before I got here that are still on step 1. I can’t feel sorry for these helpless cases, and coddling them isn’t doing them any good.
It’s easy to say, “Just ignore it.” But when more than half of all of the content on this forum is some variation of “Women suck, my life is sad.” It gets old. At some point it stops being about going your own way and it becomes ending up here and bitching about how hard it is to move on.
Am I way off base here?

If they aren’t getting through it, then you have to ask yourself whether they are really committed to becoming proper MGTOW.

[Anonymous 3]

Mocha wrote:

Except some of them aren’t getting over it. They’re using the community as a tampon for their never ending crybaby s~~~.

There is a difference between them never going to get over it, and them not getting over it YET.

Just because natural MGTOW men and men who easily snapped out of this “raging” state in a day or two exist, it’s still not enough of a reason to silence others’ outbursts.

Is it annoying? Yes, without a doubt. But this tough love “man up, shut up and just be MGTOW! You’re just weak cuz you can’t get over it in a day like I did!” BS isn’t MGTOW, especially seeing that one of the biggest reasons why a lot of men end up here in the first place, is because they have no cathartic outlets. And now we’re going to do the same thing to them? Where else can they go if we tell them to shut up?

Encourage them to voice everything. Let them complain, let them shout, let them rage, let them whine, let them unleash everything they have, I say. The only way for a person to become tired of something, is to flood the supply and create an overabundance of it. Instead of silencing them, try to help them get tired of it.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I just don’t think telling them to shut up is going to work.

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

Encourage them to voice everything. Let them complain, let them shout, let them rage, let them whine, let them unleash everything they have, I say. The only way for a person to become tired of something, is to flood the supply and create an overabundance of it. Instead of silencing them, try to help them get tired of it.

I totally agree with that. This site contributes to the freedom of speech, and all this ranting, complaining and blowing some steam off is also a part of it. If you don´t like, don´t read it. Moaning about it just shows the incapability to grasp the thoughts of others.

IDGAF

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Mocha wrote:

Am I way off base here?

Yes, you are. I suggest setting mouse traps on a piano’s keyboard and playing “chopsticks” so that you might abstain from typing posts for awhile. If you are within bounds telling people to get “red pill rage” out of your system, I am similarly within bounds to tell you to get the bulls~~~ out of your system, and given its severity as evidenced by your posts, it might take awhile.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Mocha wrote:

Except some of them aren’t getting over it. They’re using the community as a tampon for their never ending crybaby s~~~.

@mocha Man, those “you’re bitter”….. “get over it”….. “crybaby” have long been deconstructed,
/shaming-tactics/

Do you remember this? /video/sandman-is-down/

That came as a result of Sandman who first started out as a “bitter crybaby” himself. Then he turned around and told MGTOW to “get over it”. Exactly the same wording. Exactly the same s~~~. That was Messenger’s response. How do you think Sandman would have like to hear (upon arrival at MGTOW) “Man up stop whining and get over it”? Messenger turn sandman’s asshole from (__x__) to (__((O)__) for that.

It fails here. The rest of the world is doing that already.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Keymaster wrote:

He can’t stand to hear them whining.
Well, I can’t stand to see them eat a bullet.

This is why i’ll listen to another 10 000 “whiny” stories if i have to.I’d be damned if i see one more of my friends kill himself.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Essentially MGTOW.com is a canvas to allow other people to discover things for themselves. The rage/depression will occur and is essential to coming to acceptance (look up the 5 stages of grief/loss process) but as fellow brothers we can also show people how to re-frame certain situations so they can hopefully develop a healthier way of thinking.

Ultimately we can only listen and try to guide others, and regardless of how others act we need to learn how to be happy for ourselves. For example my ex partner can be a bitch or can be nice at times, regardless of her mood I don’t allow it to affect my happiness and I think this is a method we can apply to our MGTOW brethren, when they are raging or finding what makes them happy.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[Tex41Participant 45]

Ok, I’m a newcomer to this site but I’d like to put my 2 cents in the pot. These are not directed at anyone, just some universal truths I’ve come to realize.
A few things I’ve learned so far:

-Going your own way does not mean separation from other men. This is a brotherhood. That is what we have here, and it’s special.

-Men naturally have lots of testosterone, rage, and anger. Fuel that with s~~~ty circumstances and you get a very lethal c~~~tail.

-We are not here to judge but to listen, guide, encourage, and educate.

-MGTOW is self preservation at it’s finest. Not alone, but as a group. You can go your own way alone if you wish, but I’d rather surround myself with a group of like minded individuals.

-There is some truth that “these young kids” haven’t gone through what most of “us older guys” have, they typically don’t have the battle scars and war wounds we have. However, you don’t know everyone’s situation and can’t possibly understand their world.

-From day one I was drawn to this forum, because there was no animosity, hate, or fighting between members (from what I could tell). Every thread, post, and response was full of information and encouragement. Every other place you run into online (reddit, any forum, youtube, whatever) there is always a huge amount of hate and disdain for others, because of online anonymity. That is not the case here, and I am truly thankful for that.

Take these as you will, just my observations.

-Tex

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Really good video on this.

Warning. Does not contain soft ass s~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

f~~~ing dude(warhorse) makes a video crying about how he is tired of hearing men cry.

what

Nice video by Messenger, KM.

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