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I am starting this thread for reference and personal purposes. I actually found this site by researching celibacy for men. It was typical that 99% of what came up in the search was for women. Publicly declining women is not a popular move by society’s standards, a lot of shaming can result in practicing it. So there isn’t alot of material on the matter that is not directly tied to a religion and the “higher invisible being” beliefs that go along with it.
Personally, at 32 years old, I am not fully dedicated to the no pussy rule, though I have been somewhat successful, I am currently working towards it as a goal. And it is very likely that I am not the only one experiencing the directional limbo stage.
I realize that the common denominator to acheiving this is age. But think that from a mindset or perception context, hopefully there are many other different ways to fend off the natural instinct and maintain self discipline.
There is a ton of advice on this site with reasons to opt out of marriage and relations~~~s, this is aimed at the instinctual urges for sex. That moment when the little head is trying to do the thinking for you. Any advice or method used is helpful. Even if not full celibate like myself, if there are methods / perceptions that work for you, please include them here. Looking forward to reading them.
Hi colbshank,
Personally, at 32 years old, I am not fully dedicated to the no pussy rule
I think I get what you are saying here, but I don’t look at it like that for myself. If I try that route, it wont work for me, and I will be wanting to go do it, just because I told myself I can’t. I lived by sooo many f~~~ing rules, while I was married, it just makes me want to scream my bloody f~~~ing head off, if I try to impose rules on myself. Especially regarding this.
I prefer to have my perception be a bit more than a pros & cons list, if you will. I think about what turns me on & then I think about all the s~~~ I have to deal with, to get some action, and it just turns me off to the whole damn scene. I wind up firing up porn & rubbing one out as they say. I know we all have our own kicks and all, but for me, I just can’t bring myself to go deal with another woman’s bulls~~~.
I realize that the common denominator to acheiving this is age. But think that from a mindset or perception context, hopefully there are many other different ways to fend off the natural instinct and maintain self discipline.
It has been around 4 yrs for me now, since my last sexcapade, and it really sealed the deal for me, on finally checking out from them. I am almost 47, so don’t let my age misguide you, I am one horny motherf~~~er. Stamina, obviously is another matter…especially if she lays there like cord wood, I can’t stand it when they do that, let alone the lack of a burning flame of desire. I get more thrill & spark watching a commercial I can’t stand, at least I know I can mute the f~~~er.
So, even though the natural instincts can rage it’s ass off for me at times, the self discipline I use, as I just described some of, really helps me. When I have sexual hunger, nothing else I do satiates it. It doesn’t matter how much I expend my energy on other tasks, it still doesn’t satisfy that craving & desire. My discipline for myself is I can either go out and try to find a female that is attractive to me, or just fantasize it. I would like to say I have way more to offer here, but in all honesty…
That’s it in a nutshell for myself.
They just do so much that turns me off to them, that even when they are all “dolled” up, I know it’s only a facade.
I don’t know, I get my kicks above the waistline, and with all my experiences of women, they always seem to scream vapant & vile to me, and I just don’t really see anything romantic or emotionally engaging about it. Without getting passion from them, what the f~~~ is the damn point?That’s what I always ask myself
well i suppose all the testimonies are valid… i’m not a monk declared but i’m virtually virgin because i can’tgot laid in the past and now that i can… don’t want it…
maybe is because you can’t miss something that you never had it, but anytime that i look at a woman by the street i feel that, as more beautiful more disgusting are, because in my country, and much more in my city, they not smile, they are not educated, they are disgusting spoiled bitches, so i more easy for me to keep my mind cold and see through their surface…i travel alot and in other countries in hard to maintain stable because the females tends to be less spoiled in appearance…but here? no one will approach me and , for sure, i will never approach any of them so… be a monk? until the time i decide i want to be with whores.. i am one one them without pretend
. my anger mixing with my pride makes the perfect combination to avoid women…
i hope you learn here and i life enough to hate their behaviour and by this… their bodies…
good luck
Anonymous42One diseased clam out of too many clams did it for me! It freaked me the f~~~ off women for good! My life for a clam? NEVER! No woman will ever tell you how many c~~~s she had in her, nor how dirty they were! Besides, my life greatly improved beyond my wildest imagination since I went my own way….. I’ve turned down countless opportunities since that dreadful day, I’m sure some of the pussy I turned down was infected with something or another.
Sex on the carousel has become a game of Russian roulette, but with 4 out of 6 chambers loaded! HOLLOW POINTS!I think one of the most important things that can be done is to change your perception of what sex is
A lot of the people you will meet talk about sex as if it is like a rite of passage, and if you can’t “get it” then you don’t “have it”
If you look at sex as just an activity, without all the other social status s~~~ attached to it, i found that helped me a great deal
As for dealing with your urges, i would try to affirm that what you are doing is the right choice.
Make use of Porn and other erotic content. maybe get some sex toys and wait for the sex robots that are in heated discussion in this very forum to be available.There isn’t really an easy way to manage your urges.
You didn’t really give a reason as to why you want to be as celibate as you can, but i’ll assume you have your reasons ^-^
You have found a very good place to talk about topics like this, full of men with different opinons on how to do things, i don’t think you will ever be shamed for wanting to practice celibacy here.
This site is full of great minds attached to great people, i rarely see anything but friendship from all here and that’s a rare thing nowadays
I actually found this site by researching celibacy for men.
I’ve been MGTOW since before the term was coined and I’m not celibate. It’s just that chasing pussy or increasing my notch count, as our so-called PUA “cousins” call it, isn’t a central, important, or even minor part of my life.
It was typical that 99% of what came up in the search was for women.
Yet another example of the patriarchy, right?
Publicly declining women is not a popular move by society’s standards…
I’m not going to sugar coat this: F~~~ society’s standards.
… a lot of shaming can result in practicing it.
And f~~~ all shamers. I don’t shame women for being bitter, obese, self-centered, hypocritical, barren, delusional, post-wall, or any of their other attributes, so they better not attempt to shame me.
Personally, at 32 years old, I am not fully dedicated to the no pussy rule, though I have been somewhat successful, I am currently working towards it as a goal.
I don’t think there’s a “No Pussy Rule” for MGTOW membership and I don’t think celibacy should be even a general goal for men who identify as MGTOW. You can still f~~~ women without letting them into your life, mind, or wallet. Perhaps your goal should be to f~~~ women on your terms and not on their terms. I know that’s my goal.
I realize that the common denominator to acheiving this is age.
That’s an good insight. I’m 54 and believe age has helped me stay on the straight and narrow. That being said, I had sex last weekend and before that a few weeks earlier. The important thing in those two encounters is that I didn’t actively seek out those encounters, don’t have anything but a casual relationship with the two women in question, and sacrificed none of my personal autonomy, agency, or assets to f~~~ them. (I did buy one a drink after she bought me one.)
But think that from a mindset or perception context, hopefully there are many other different ways to fend off the natural instinct and maintain self discipline.
You do that the same way you get to Carnegie Hall: Practice, practice, practice. You want to control your natural instincts and maintain self discipline? Practice doing so. Develop such control and discipline into a habit. Most importantly, do not fear to fail. You cannot be perfect, no one can be perfect. All that matters is that you try.
Even if not full celibate like myself, if there are methods / perceptions that work for you, please include them here.
Let me start with the concept of demeanor, which is big part of what the PUA community often calls “frame”. Here’s a good definition of demeanor:
“The outward physical behavior and appearance of a person. Demeanor is not merely what someone says but the manner in which it is said. Factors which contribute to an individual’s demeanor include tone of voice, facial expressions, gestures, and carriage”Unlike the PUA community which uses demeanor to f~~~ women, I use my demeanor to “disqualify” women instead. (There’s a nice thread about disqualifying women on the forum here.) I project a demeanor – or like to believe I project a demeanor – which is in part polite, disinterested, terse, dismissive, matter-of-fact, and other attributes. Women around me in a business or social situation know or learn quickly that I will not tolerate their bulls~~~, that I am not interested in their lives or opinions, and that my time is not to be wasted.
Several years ago, one whining c~~~ tried to s~~~ test me with the “observation” that I am all business all the time. I told that my life was my sole business and, as such, I took it very seriously. That response and my demeanor while delivering it convinced her to go bother some other sap.
I wasn’t born with this demeanor, I didn’t read some book, pamphlet, or webpage which laid it all for me, and I didn’t take some pill or potion. At first, it developed naturally, almost organically, as I became more disgusted with women and my interactions with them. Late on, when I mulled over the improvements in my demeanor towards women, I consciously identified and worked on certain parts of my demeanor to make it even stronger. Like I wrote earlier, it was a matter of practice, practice, practice.
Finally, don’t be hung up regarding masturbation. You have physical needs and it’s good for your body to ejaculate on a regular basis. Just as you’re taking back control of your life from women, you also need to take back control of your orgasms from women. Having regular orgasms is a good thing and women are in no way necessary for that.
Good luck and let us know how you’re progressing.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
In my humble opinion, as alluring and anatomically impressive women may be that I see walking down sidewalks or exercising, or in attire that flatters their figure, I try to remember a few things that shock me back to reality: the laws are tipped in their favor, she may already have kids and could be looking for the next ATM, she may be crazy, she may be a minor though her anatomical features suggest otherwise, or she may have ridden the c~~~ carousel and contracted an ingredient detrimental to your survival. If urges do remain, the most safest and risk free way to take care of them would be through masturbation. Or, you could distract these urges through hobbies to occupy your time.
Try exercise. .prayer..meditation. .a second job equals extra money. .be proud of the dick you were born with and give it a good time yourself. .perfect don’t exist so don’t try to be. ..classes at local school. .pet ownership. .realize that you are free!take a cooking class. .enjoy you !
As expected, you guys have gave givin some insight that I have not considered or thought of. Keep them coming.
Mgtow age.
Four years is very impressive. And coupled with the well put phrase,
When I have sexual hunger, nothing else I do satiates it. It doesn’t matter how much I expend my energy on other tasks, it still doesn’t satisfy that craving & desire.
It adds much more validity to your point of not forcing it, but rather, being celibate because it makes sense.
anytime that i look at a woman by the street i feel that, as more beautiful more disgusting are
It is much easier to pass up less attractive women, this scaling sytem of expected sincerity/respect level received from a woman based on looks sounds like a great mental tool to brush off the more difficult times.
One diseased clam out of too many clams did it for me! It freaked me the f~~~ off women for good! My life for a clam? NEVER!
No woman will ever tell you how many c~~~s she had in herThis is definitely one of the most logical reasons to remain pussyless. Bringing up the fact that women will lie like a used car salesman, by rolling back the milage on the odometer to get a guy to buy a lemon pussy is a known, but highly overlooked fact. Just imagine if a woman’s sex partner history was held to the same recordable standards we use in business. That truthful information alone would probably be enough to scare most men away.
A lot of the people you will meet talk about sex as if it is like a rite of passage, and if you can’t “get it” then you don’t “have it”
If you look at sex as just an activity, without all the other social status s~~~ attached to it, i found that helped me a great deal
This was actually my latest personal hurdle. Sex as validation. After being raised in a media culture to think getting laid = happiness/winning. It is almost impossible to not overlook, and see the price being paid to have/retain a status symbol.
I’m not going to sugar coat this: F~~~ society’s standards.
Already have this one down. But had to put it out there again.
I do fear failure due to a snowball effect that usually occurs when rebreaking the seal of abstinence. Not sure if this is something that others deal with or not.
But this is a major reason for deciding to attempt celibacy. Losing that fear would be greatly beneficial.You do that the same way you get to Carnegie Hall: Practice, practice, practice. You want to control your natural instincts and maintain self discipline? Practice doing so. Develop such control and discipline into a habit. Most importantly, do not fear to fail. You cannot be perfect, no one can be perfect. All that matters is that you try.
If urges do remain, the most safest and risk free way to take care of them would be through masturbation.
I am a full throttle overachiever type, so trying to keep…”meditation” out of the picture. But it does sometimes accidentally go off when cleaning it.
Hitman.
Staying busy is great to get the extra energy out and is crucial. Although, I have noticed that with a more active and healthy lifestyle that it actually backfires somewhat and boosts my sex drive, which in turn boosts my energy, until I get to a point of complete physical exhaustion. Then finally rest, then repeat.Then I informed her women are like a f~~~ing stray cat in my life and I do not want the entanglement.
The habit of treating women nice enough is out the window with this one. Fkn awsome.
And again, great points and views. Keep em’ coming.
As expected, you guys have gave givin some insight that I have not considered or thought of. Keep them coming.
Mgtow age.
Four years is very impressive. And coupled with the well put phrase,
MGTOW Age wrote:
When I have sexual hunger, nothing else I do satiates it. It doesn’t matter how much I expend my energy on other tasks, it still doesn’t satisfy that craving & desire.
It adds much more validity to your point of not forcing it, but rather, being celibate because it makes sense.Thank you for that compliment bro, glad I could bring something to the table. Thumbs up to you.
Rock On
It is much easier to pass up less attractive women, this scaling sytem of expected sincerity/respect level received from a woman based on looks sounds like a great mental tool to brush off the more difficult times.
Like i said i live in a city with a huge level of beauty females but they are not pretending, they are rude and spoiled like i never seen in my entire life…well maybe Roumania and Latvia… same as here, but there are truly models and here only “amateurs”…
you see a pretty face as a doll, maybe you can think: well is pretty but not pretty enough to be rude with me because i’m not bad guy at all… only need to open her mouth to recognize the sound of a tune of putrid smell of lack of manners and you wake up from your fantasy at the moment…
like the girls who used me and then let me go, i almost thank this girls for make my path easier…
if i live in other country and a goddess (referring to a body) will lower their requirement and be polite with me would be a heavy task to keep the right way, but it’s not the case here where the foreign can get what they want because the native female here are virtually impossible to “conquer” …
the bad things that you think makes your life miserable sometimes are the ones that save your life from misery…
think about it…Until your mid to late 30s, sex is going to be a hard thing to do without.
Some folks have a mental/emotional capacity to suppress the urge. I didn’t. So I got a vasectomy and put my sperm in cryo.
My thought is this: never go to the grocery store when you’re hungry, and never go out and about where there are women in a social setting without jerking off. It just is what it is. We have hormones and chemistry and all kinds of biological imperatives encoded in our DNA. We’re hardwired to want to f~~~. Jerking off a few times before going out with friends to the club helps abate that urge to f~~~.
My personal belief is that everything revolves around sex when you’re younger. This includes the need or urge to find a committed partner and to seek out female companionship. Its all just chemical reactions. Learning to curb those biological responses is what helps you see things clearly. A hot chick that’s a psycho looks f~~~-worthy, until you bust a nut and realize the danger. Looks don’t matter after you’re satiated.
I point to this observation in my own life: When I was around 25 I met this chick at a music festival. We hit it off physically and the sex was great. Problem was that she lived about 2 hours away. So just about every weekend I was driving 2 hours each way to get laid. Now, at 43, that s~~~ needs to be delivered to me with a complimentary 6-pack of good beer before I’m even bothered to consider it. Ironically, I’m in better shape now than I was at 25, so its not a matter of being too lazy. Its simply that the effort isn’t worth it to me.
Its my understanding that another route is to avoid masturbation/sex completely and after a few months the urges will pass. I dunno. Never tried it. Maybe someone with more knowledge on that tactic can chime in.
You clearly don’t understand the concept of “Indulgence Over Abstinence”. You want to never have sex again because women manipulated you. Well here is some advice. First of all don’t go down this road of abstinence. Many Catholic priests went down this road and later developed unnatural desires such as homosexuality and pedophilia. Many other men raised Pentecostal and Church of Christ households were emasculated because they never indulged in their carnal desires. This path that you are choosing is not all that it’s cracked up to be. You will feel like you are missing out and you will regret it. By indulging in your carnal desires you will not be developing unnatural desires and as a result of that you will be making this world a safer place. That also goes for anyone else who wants to live like a monk.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
Anonymous42That also goes for anyone else who wants to live like a monk.
@ JD, why don’t you make a sandman video??? Oh, and by the way, what do you have to say to the men that become infected with a disease, one of many in a cornucopia of viruses and germs? What do you say to him when he’s living on a c~~~tail amalgamation of chemicals? Your shamming tactics about MONKS being or becoming either queer or pedophilia, are coming from the blue-pill side of your feminist inundated brain. What you said is extremely insulting and degrading, and believe me, my c~~~ cumpass has always, and still points to the true north of pussy! I don’t look at guys, and I damn sure don’t look at children, so F~~~ SHAMman, AND F~~~ YOU TOO! You deserved that!
You clearly don’t understand the concept of “Indulgence Over Abstinence”. You want to never have sex again because women manipulated you. Well here is some advice. First of all don’t go down this road of abstinence. Many Catholic priests went down this road and later developed unnatural desires such as homosexuality and pedophilia. Many other men raised Pentecostal and Church of Christ households were emasculated because they never indulged in their carnal desires. This path that you are choosing is not all that it’s cracked up to be. You will feel like you are missing out and you will regret it. By indulging in your carnal desires you will not be developing unnatural desires and as a result of that you will be making this world a safer place. That also goes for anyone else who wants to live like a monk.
Negative feedback is always welcome, it is a part of how ideas are shaped.
But you appear to have taken the concept, and without weighing pros to cons, dumped your biased opinion in a dramatic fashion to attempt to achieve your point. Unless you have experienced this change in sexuality first hand by celibacy, your point comes off as….well, tower put it nicely. I will leave it at that.
While I do agree with the root of what you are trying to purvey, in that forcing oneself, at one’s own expense, to appease others and retain social standing (catholic priests). Is not a healthy way to go about it. Mgtow age caught that one right out of the gate.
I must add that this topic was based on foregoing sex while retaining a healthy mental state and enjoyable lifestyle, and in no way attempting to represent fellow members here as a whole.
Well… For me what it works is something like Age described…
And after measuring all that, and my instincts are still giving me a hard time, I just go to somewhere where have a lot of women, and just listen to them talking to each other.
Believe me, there is no bigger turn off-er than a conversation between two women. Pretend that you can’t hear, but overhear everything that they say. If that is not enough for me, and I STILL want some pussy, then I go to a whore.
Anyway, me being horny like that only happened twice since I became MGHOW, so usually measuring the pros & cons worked for me.
Hope it shed some light, bro… Even if it was a smalll spark.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
I would say, it depends.
If you have resources, then I would recommend using a courtesan from time to time to start with, spacing out the time between until you decide you can do without.
If you don’t have enough resources for that, I’d say move to somewhere you don’t need to be in constant contact with women and work on your life..
Its genuinely a biological urge.. really. Not just for sex, but for sex as social bonding. If you spend a lot of your time with men’s groups, you can take care of that problem better as well, lessening that urge a great deal.
Or, form your own men’s group around your needs and desires for companionship and let them help you, and help them anyway you can.
I believe Its all about having compassion for yourself, and for others who are suffering. But first, for yourself. There is nothing wrong with you! You’re a human being and you didn’t ask to be born.. you’re just doing your best to be human in your circumstances.
Best wishes and success!
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