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Dear nice guys, quit the act, women aren’t attracted to emotional tampons. Stop complaining about women being attracted to the bad boys and thugs and start acting like the bad boys and thugs. Once you hit 30s women will start looking for other qualities like humor, charm, emotional and financial stability because these will be the traits for a potential mate, focus on bettering yourself while your young and don’t waste your college and high school years trying to score.
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with being nice. Not trying to be a complete c~~~ your entire life is what elevates us from the common beast. Knowing that it won’t get you laid should not be a reason not to be a ‘nice guy’ in your younger years. If there’s anything I could say to the younger men these days it would be to not let your lust force you into being an asshole.
As you correctly say their time will come when they get older but we should strive to avoid changing who we are just for a nice piece of ass. In your thirties you will be financially secure enough to pretty much buy any type of fantasy sex you want anyway… and I get to be nice about it hehe
Great post though.
"Listen to all, Follow none"The new American dream for working class women is to be at home with kids by age 30. Don’t fall for this charade nice guys, unless you want to become a wage slave then don’t fall for the s~~~, go your own way like my cousin did, your life will be much better when you do it.
This is their trap. Don’t get yourself ensnared ! Get yourself clipped if you’re going to play with fire !!
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Anonymous11They are not interested in you as a person. Second they have the dinero, off they go back onto the next Chad if they can snag his attention.
As two of our resident MDs have mentioned, the rules do not apply for Chads. It’s ironic that Chad rhymes with cad.
I have one close friend who is a Chad’s Chad. As soon as his wench hit the Wall, he went into the process of replacing her. The f~~~ed up part is that she and I dated for 1.75 years all the way up to engagement ring shopping. Bullet dodged for me though there was that two year period of red pill rage. She ended the hard core blue pill phase for me so she really did me a favor.
I served as her loyal wallet while she was going to school. Yes, having money will attract women like flies to s~~~. As soon as she was in sight of the finish line, she swapped me out for him in a reverse hypergamy play like EWO experienced. She subsidized him heavily for 20 years financially, and he cheated the entire time on her too. She used to be hot not a feminist and was actually a pretty good f~~~. Even though I am on friendly terms with both of them now, I take satisfaction in watching everything I told her would happen to her happen. She’s now post Wall and aging rapidly from the stress.
I am nice. I find I actually get more from people by being nice. In reality, I’m a velvet covered iron fist. Those who try to take advantage of me quickly taste the iron fist. Nice is interpreted as weak by sheeple. Nearly all women are sheeple.
My message to younger nice guys is to embrace it but do not ever be a doormat. It’s really an asset that you can leverage to great effect for your good. I actually relish the fact that it drives women away now. Playing with women is like handling snakes, you will be bitten unless you have Chad. I’ve owned snakes all have bitten me.
In my past experiences with women, being “friends” meant a lot of extra work and responsibility without any benefits. By being a friend you are doing the work of the boyfriend/Chad and getting nothing in return. Friends will lend you money, help you move, listen and give you advice or give you a lift when you need it. She will expect these things from you but will refuse to provide them for you when you need it. That isn’t friendship it’s you volunteering to be a free source for her to draw off of. Many young guys think that being friends and doing this stuff is like the Vegas chip that can be exchanged for cash at any time and at any casino. Unfortunately they learn the hard way when they realize that she will never honor the chip and neither will other women.
Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
Some of you need to ask yourself, are you MGTOW because you understand what that means, or are you just pretending to be MGTOW because you suck with women and think we’re a group of men that are here to whine and complain about that? Because if it’s the latter, you’re in the wrong spot, and that isn’t what we are. Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature. If you aren’t one of those people, don’t try to pass off your excuses as some sort of insight.
This.
And I would add that: there’s nothing bad in being virgin, but a guy who is virgin lacks experience and basically he’s complaining about nothing.
Women have the right to reject the men they don’t like, and, yes, a man who want to get laid but he CANNOT get laid IS a loser.
MGTOW is way beyond such stage, it means understanding the nature of the game and how it’s stacked against men.
Guys who can’t get laid and are angered just only due that are still blue pills.
Gynocentrism doesn’t mean “women are evil because they reject guys” – gynocentrism mean that guys who get laid have not just only to do all the efforts (that’s acceptable, it always have been so, it’s just human nature) but also have to deal with legal traps and risks EVEN IF the women are theroretically fully legally and economically independent. The actual system is a very bad blend of the old system and an utopian system with both sexes fully equal: the women have take the best parts of both systems, while the men still have all the duties and the responsabilities of the old system but have to compete with women within education (totally skewed in favor of women) and the workplace (partially skewed in favor of women, especially in some workplaces and fields) and also to face a bias against us within the legal system every time there’s a dispute between a man and a woman.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Stop shaping your future to attract women. Do what you do to take pride in your own accomplishment and to achieve realistic goals. Certainly there is much that male energy contributes to societies better growth.
Women will notice how you feel about yourself, and want some of that. Whether you let them bathe in it is up to you.
That is the real power that we have, and why most women resent what they cannot have. That is why the accusations of the “Patriarchy” ruling the world.
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
They are not interested in you as a person. Second they have the dinero, off they go back onto the next Chad if they can snag his attention.
As two of our resident MDs have mentioned, the rules do not apply for Chads. It’s ironic that Chad rhymes with cad.
I have one close friend who is a Chad’s Chad. As soon as his wench hit the Wall, he went into the process of replacing her. The f~~~ed up part is that she and I dated for 1.75 years all the way up to engagement ring shopping. Bullet dodged for me though there was that two year period of red pill rage. She ended the hard core blue pill phase for me so she really did me a favor.
I served as her loyal wallet while she was going to school. Yes, having money will attract women like flies to s~~~. As soon as she was in sight of the finish line, she swapped me out for him in a reverse hypergamy play like EWO experienced. She subsidized him heavily for 20 years financially, and he cheated the entire time on her too. She used to be hot not a feminist and was actually a pretty good f~~~. Even though I am on friendly terms with both of them now, I take satisfaction in watching everything I told her would happen to her happen. She’s now post Wall and aging rapidly from the stress.
I am nice. I find I actually get more from people by being nice. In reality, I’m a velvet covered iron fist. Those who try to take advantage of me quickly taste the iron fist. Nice is interpreted as weak by sheeple. Nearly all women are sheeple.
My message to younger nice guys is to embrace it but do not ever be a doormat. It’s really an asset that you can leverage to great effect for your good. I actually relish the fact that it drives women away now. Playing with women is like handling snakes, you will be bitten unless you have Chad. I’ve owned snakes all have bitten me.
Lots of good nuggets of wisdom in this thread. I think I fall into the ‘genuine nice guy’ realm. It’s how I was raised and just who I am. It’s taken the last two years I think to finally come to terms with it. After hitting the initial red pill rage early in my divorce I decided to stop being ‘the nice guy’. Frankly I don’t know how to do it. I just come off as being a rude dick. Not the ‘attractive bad boy’ type. And attracting women wasn’t even the point. I just didn’t want to feel used anymore. In the last year I came to some realizations I wish I had come to a long time ago.
It’s ok to be ‘the nice guy’. I’m back on that path. I’m polite and courteous to people. At the same time I don’t try to draw a lot of attention to myself. And I don’t allow myself to be taken advantage of. For example I’m back in school and last spring semester an attractive young girl had delayed doing a major project until the very end of the semester. She asked myself and another man my age for help. I politely refused saying I just had too much going on. I believe the other gentleman did end up helping her and that was his choice. Me I just walked away. Wasn’t rude about it. Oddly this semester the same girl sat by me again in a class.
Anyway honestly I could never pull of ‘bad boy’. People say I even just look like a ‘nice man’. Not going to lie when I was younger it sucked. Not a lot of girls interested in guys like me but there were a few. I’ve been with a hand full of girls in my 40 years. Not too impressive by the standards of these young fellas today but not terrible.
And at this point I know I’ll never marry again but I do think sometimes about female companionship. If I could work out a situation where it’s understood that financially things will be split, no cohabitation, no marriage, we just enjoy one another’s company and that’s it. But honestly women see me and I don’t think that’s what they want. They want that marriage and commitment from a guy like me. But then sometimes I think even a balanced ‘fair’ relationship like the one I described above sounds like just TOO MUCH WORK. I’m tired. I’ve been through the hell of trying to make women happy. Now I’m enjoying peace. I’m enjoying restarting my life. Rebuilding. Focusing on myself and my kids. At 40 I’ve gotten myself into the best physical shape I’ve been in since I was 22. Perhaps even better and I’m pretty proud of that. And didn’t do it to attract women. Did it to just feel physically better about myself and to take care of myself so I can be around for my boys.
TL;DR: So I tend to ramble sometimes in these posts. Succinctly some of us are the genuine ‘nice guys’. That’s who we are. No need to be angry or fight it. Go with it. But know that being nice doesn’t mean you have to let yourself be taken advantage of.
Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature.
I’ve unfortunately had too much ‘success’ with women and combined with being a ‘nice guy’ for too long I’ve managed to have a bunch of long term girlfriends and now a wife and kid. F~~~ my life.
And I would add that: there’s nothing bad in being virgin, but a guy who is virgin lacks experience and basically he’s complaining about nothing.
Who f~~~ing cares about being a virgin when getting laid these days is Backpage and $100 away?
Eh.
This isn’t to anyone specific, but if you suck with women, don’t pretend you are an expert on women. Don’t go on and on about “girls like this, girls like that” as an excuse for yourself. Every time someone gets called on this, they then immediately switch into “oh, I know that, I was a pua/badboy/player/redpill/thug/badboy I was really great with women, I was just talking about something else not me”.
Pretty much every young guy is broke. But most young men easily get a girlfriend. And most are also nice guys.
There’s a difference between being a pushover and trying to use that to get sex, and being a genuinely nice person.
Some of you need to ask yourself, are you MGTOW because you understand what that means, or are you just pretending to be MGTOW because you suck with women and think we’re a group of men that are here to whine and complain about that? Because if it’s the latter, you’re in the wrong spot, and that isn’t what we are. Many if not most of the men here, the ones that make the best posts, have had considerable “success” with women and understand them, hence why they can write those insightful posts on female nature. If you aren’t one of those people, don’t try to pass off your excuses as some sort of insight.
Well stated. I went MGTOW because quite frankly I am tired. Ever since GMOW, I have more disposable income, less stress, more time to exercise, and a weekend for me and me only. It isn’t hard to pickup women if you are willing to spend a s~~~load in drinks, gifts, vacations etc. I see friends do it all the time and at one point I did that. It’s a waste of time and make no mistake they only like what you can provide. NOONE is skilled enough to do this flat broke. If women see you alone, no wife, no gf, that means there is cash not being spent. That’s what they want.
If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.
I’d also like to add that if you’re naturally a nice guy, don’t try to be an asshole. Women, in spite of all the well deserved criticism they receive here, are very keen on categorizing men and they mentally lump you into a category within split seconds of meeting you. If they think you’re a nice guy orbiter right away, trying to be a prick won’t change that image. Being an asshole only works for Chad (PUAs always hide this fact from men). He’ll get laid while acting like an asshole, you’ll get arrested/sued for hate speech.
I disagree at the end part here as long as you are not completely ugly (such as magic the gathering players) or you are not too nice being an asshole works however if you still are not a natural one then don’t be one.
I never was a natural nice guy till i tried faking being one for relationships since i was brainwashed as a kid. I was always the trouble maker before then but after i found the red pill i am now returning to my natural state that has been closeted up for many years because of both the TV, family and church pushed this gentleman s~~~ on me.
In the end if you are a natural nice guy then at least stop being one to women since they will take advantage of you. Also don’t get taken advantage by anyone else for the matter either in being a nice guy.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Anonymous22Who f~~~ing cares about being a virgin when getting laid these days is Backpage and $100 away?
Here in Thailand it’s about $25 away. Even cheaper. I never use those services though but lots of foreigners come here and pay money to have fun with thai ladies.
Who f~~~ing cares about being a virgin when getting laid these days is Backpage and $100 away?
Here in Thailand it’s about $25 away. Even cheaper. I never use those services though but lots of foreigners come here and pay money to have fun with thai ladies.
Uh oh. I love asian women. Is Thailand safe for Americans?
Here’s my message to nice guys: quit being nice to women, it’s clearly not working. Man up and go your own way otherwise you’re in a world of hurt.
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Anonymous22Uh oh. I love asian women. Is Thailand safe for Americans?
I have limited experience but I’d say it’s safer than the western media wants you to think. Walking down the streets of Bangkok feels safer than New York. Well, the traffic is much worse, though.
Here’s my message to nice guys: quit being nice to women, it’s clearly not working. Man up and go your own way otherwise you’re in a world of hurt.
Well not working in the sense of trying to attract women absolutely. Still not necessarily a bad thing to be nice and courteous to women. For example another woman closer to my age I’ve had three classes with and gotten to be kind of friends with. Now she’s married and I’d never try anything nor would I be interested. But we have studied together and when one of us have homework questions or miss a class we help each other out and share notes. So kind of a mutually beneficial thing. And got started really just because we were both parents and shared info about our kids. So I think can have benefits both ways. Just don’t expect too much.
and certainly don’t ever think that being a nice guy is a ticket to pussy because it sure isn’t.
also I plan to raise my boys to be respectful to everyone. Be polite. But don’t let themselves be taken advantage of and don’t put pussy on a pedestal.
And I would add that: there’s nothing bad in being virgin, but a guy who is virgin lacks experience and basically he’s complaining about nothing.
Who f~~~ing cares about being a virgin when getting laid these days is Backpage and $100 away?
When I wrote “virgin” I meant “not having had a relationship with a girl”.
I don’t think there could be such thing as a “virgin” in the physical meaning: sex workers prices start from 50 euro, then it’s almost impossible that a man would never try it if he’s unable to get a pussy with other means.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
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