Men's Votes Hurt Women

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

So I’m having c~~~tails with a friend/colleague of mine and her husband in town from California last night and she turns the topic to politics.

I can only guess she assumed I’m voting for Trump because she went on a tear about him first and then summarized it with the following:

“You and you… you vote for the people who support your issues but do you realize your choices effect me the most?”

In my mind I could hear Hillary Clinton stating with a straight face that the widows and orphans of dead solders suffer more in wartime than the dead soldiers themselves. But I kept my mouth shut as she went on with the following:

“If Trump deports eleven million Mexicans and makes abortion illegal, it won’t effect you at all. Brown people and women will pay the price for your votes.”

Hold on right there, ma’am. Do you mean to tell me that you actually believe no white men will have to pay extra for strawberries, burritos, hotel rooms, landscaped lawns or any of the thousands of jobs that Mexicans do if those Mexicans are deported? Not that deporting all those people could even be done, but do you seriously think we’re going to be depending on white women to go out into the fields to pick oranges or load trucks or build houses? No. Mexicans would go back to Mexico and go about their business and ALL the jobs they do, plus most of the increased cost of having them done, will fall on white men.

And as for abortions being made illegal, not that it could be done either but do you really think that society is gong to force women to have babies, not subsidize them with social programs and then simply let the white male fathers get off without paying a dime to support them? A few million women will either have to start actually using birth control or stop murdering unborn children and some will take radical, dangerous steps to avoid having to do so, but the vast majority of the cost of all these new children will fall to white men.

Such laws may hurt brown people and women first, but they will hurt white men the most. This is why I am not a tradcon (and I made her look the term up). I don’t want to deport Mexicans or prevent abortions. Cheap labor and consequence free sex have been GREAT for me. The difference between me and you is that I accept my own hypocrisy when I enjoy a product or service that could not be produced without the socio-economic enslavement of illegal aliens and I accept my own hypocrisy when I f~~~ a woman who speaks and acts as though she does not want children and a stable man to support her when I know that in her heart she does.

I benefit from these illusions we have cast on ourselves and I find it offensive that you could argue in favor of those illusions without understanding how fundamentally full of s~~~ they are while accusing me of wanting to take them away when I have and will continue to benefit from them far more than either you or the Mexicans ever will.

If women today knew what was best for them, THEY would deport illegals and ban abortions… putting us back on track to a tradcon soft patriarchy where they could be comfortable as housewives and mothers again. But of course they won’t… they will keep undermining society in the name of freedom, equality and multiculturalism until all the white men who do all the real, meaningful and important s~~~ have been shamed or driven out of the system and there’s nothing left but entitlements and nobody to pay for them.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

If women today knew what was best for them, THEY would deport illegals and ban abortions… putting us back on track to a tradcon soft patriarchy where they could be comfortable as housewives and mothers again. But of course they won’t…

Yep.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

You can almost hear the hate in their words towards white men.

This woman would probably openly support stripping white men of any rights we have left.

After decades… Decades of having to deal with all those around me thinking the worst of me because I am born a white man. The insults. The put downs. The blood libels. One after another. All of them are bigots. And the law and society reward them for being cruel to me, while the punish me for being a victim for being born a white man.

The only silver lining is I see that collapse of civilization has already begun. I do not have to lift a finger, and most of them will get what is coming to them.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

So, now females DARE TO DUMP ON MEN FOR VOTING?

f~~~ them, now they want me to vote for some c~~~ or pussy beggar who promises everything will be free in the utopian gynocentric system?

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

hellraider wrote:

now they want me to vote for some c~~~ or pussy beggar who promises everything will be free in the utopian gynocentric system?

Yes. If you are a white cis-gendered male and you vote your own interests, you are a sexist, racist bigot. Apparently if you want to get politically minded pussy, you have to vote to support the interests of women, the poor and people of color.

The irony here isn’t that everyone votes their own interests, which in a world of perfect information and reason, they absolutely would, but rather that women, the poor and people of color almost NEVER vote their own interests.

If she brings this up again I’ll say “in a majority rule democracy, you can reasonably expect that 49% of the people won’t get what they want. If you want to be in the majority, then band together with other women, poor and people of color and out vote me… but don’t try to shame me into voting you what you want when you can’t even manage to vote it for yourself.”

Apparently, just like those strong, independent people of color who need feminists to speak for them, she’s a strong, independent woman who needs a man to vote her some more privileges.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

we all see the results of women voting:

manginas and pussy beggars aka liberals in power.

They just promise everything for free, the white cis male will pay for it all as usual, and women actually vote for this!

Its like the open borders policy in europe, let the hordes of barbarians in, what can possibly go wrong?

Ohh, maybe mass rapes, theft and terrorism acts, like today in belgium.

And as usual, its the white cis gendered male’s fault, so fix it, slave!

No, thank you.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

A quick update on this… I met the same female friend tonight for dinner and we had the second half of our conversation. Among other things, she proposed the following: “I want to raise my son to be an ally of women… not to be a white knight but to speak up for women whenever they are oppressed or abused.”

My response: “If your son stands up for women because they are women, he is perforce a white knight. But if he stands up for people whose needs and values are true and right, then he is a man of integrity. So teach him morals and ethics and tell him that he is powerful… then teach him to use his power to stand for what is right, regardless of the who.”

As you might imagine, this concept that a young man should be told he is powerful and that he should stand for what he believes is right, regardless of the class of person involved, was not much of a seller. She REALLY wanted to make this about He for She but I wouldn’t have it.

“Don’t tell me that I am the problem and that my values are faulty and then turn around and tell me you need me to speak on your behalf. Women are the majority in this country and when you add trans, disabled and people of color, you are the vast majority. If you want something, take it. If you’re unable to vote your own interests, then don’t look to me to vote them for you because I won’t do it. As a white male, you don’t need me, remember?”

It was a contentious discussion but she couldn’t argue against anything I said. My crowning point was this: “You say we need more women represented in business, government and other positions of wealth and power. I say we need more women represents in deep sea welding, coal mining, construction work and combat deaths. When women are just as quick to demand and achieve the right to sign up for selective services as they are to demand free tuition and tampons and are equally as likely to be imprisoned, physically harmed on the streets and killed on the job as men are, then we can talk about equality. Until then, I’ve got nothing more to offer you. You want more out of life, get it yourself.”

[AttonParticipant]

She is an entitled failure who has her head up her own cervix. Frankly if she where to be on the line to be drafted her vagina and mexic~~~s wouldn’t be a big political issue. Send her to the middle east along with every woman 18 or older.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

“You want more out of life, get it yourself.”

Only a man would say, or understand that Doc.

There, but for the grace of gravy go I.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I think brown-skinned American citizens ought to be offended too. Americans, in general, will take on a s~~~ty job if the pay is decent. There are Americans who are making a pretty good salary cleaning porta-potties—so don’t give me this excuse that only illegal aliens from Latin American countries can handle the dirty work or the back-breaking work. To me, deporting illegal aliens gives American employers an incentive to increase wages to attract unemployed Americans.

And if there are more men who vote than women, it’s not our fault. It’s their fault for being LAZY. About 30 million women didn’t think it was important to vote for a president in 2012. They’ve had the right to vote since 1920 (nationally), so who’s stopping them from voting? No one.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

Women who s~~~ on men for their voting choices should be ignored or dumped because they are emotionally and mentally immature infantile pillocks who cannot handle others having a different opinion.

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