Men's Health April 2016 Issue Talks About Men And Divorce

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    ResidentEvil7
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    Yesterday I was reading my issue of Men’s Health magazine April 2016 and it talk about men getting screwed in divorce on pages 108 – 109. It states the same things MGTOW talks about.

    Here is the article word-for-word I typed out:

    You’re going to pay
    There are two sides to every split… until you get to court. A top divorce lawyer explains why men get screwed.

    Anti-Male Sensibility in family courts is not just accepted. It’s encouraged says Joseph Cordell at Cordell & Cordell, the nations largest domestic litigation firm for men. Its mission: fight for evenhanded justice for divorcing men.

    Men’s Health: Your description of what men face in family court sounds like institutionalized prejudice. Is the game flat-out rigged? JC: We decided as a society that there are certain forms of discrimination that we will not tolerate. There’s conspicuous silence of men in family court. No large private interests are advocating for them. Guys are pretty much on their own.

    You refer to a “nuclear weapon” that’s available to women, but not men. Explain. I’m referring to an order of protection. When a guy files an allegation that he was abused, it’s either shrugged off or diminished. But when a woman files a claim, it’s taken seriously. I had a man in my office that his wife hit him so hard, she broke his eye socket; the judge allowed her to stay in the home. Realize that an order of protection is filed and issued ex parte– that is without the other sides’ involvement and no evidentiary hearing. The priority is the immediate safety of the woman. Men have no voice because women get the benefit of the doubt. Just by her filing the statement “he hit me and I’m afraid,” the guy is thrown out of the house automatically. He’ll come home and find a police car waiting. “Mr. So and So, I’m serving you this protection order; you need to vacate.” So the guy runs upstairs, put some things in a bag and he’s out. It may take 30 days to get a hearing. The ramifications are so great that many men are cowed at the mere threat. They flee the risk because they don’t want to put their career, the ability to own a weapon in jeopardy. Plus the key consideration in awarding alimony is the presence of absence of domestic violence. It could be her financial advantage to file.

    Are there consequences for filing a false statement in a protective order? Almost never. There’s rarely a smoking gun either. At the hearing the woman testifies “he hit me” and the guy testifies “No I didn’t” then the judge decides.

    Why is alimony [now call spousal maintenance] still one-sided? Most wives are financially independent these days. There has been some movement, but maintenance is available to women, not men. Child support may end when the kid turns 18, but women are able to receive maintenance for the rest of their lives.

    We always assumed the alimony ends when the wife remarries. Which explains why some don’t remarry.

    So what if the ex-wife meets another man and lives with him? Depends on the state, but it’s tough separating the new “his” finances from hers. The ex-husband has an uphill battle to prove who is supporting in his ex’s new home. The burden of proof in trying to get maintenance reversals.

    Is it true that getting alimony cuts is nearly impossible? It’s very difficult. All the emotion on the woman’s side, so forget principals or statutes. The judge looks at a man making a good living and says, “Look, you can afford it. Why are you even in front of me today?” That’s how maintenance becomes a pension for life.

    Are there best and worst places for men to find himself in a domestic pickle? Rural courts tend to stick with stereotypes. Some judges are gender-conscious when they shouldn’t be. But it’s actually an institutional problem. Agencies, psychologist, law enforcement are all part of it.

    What are the dumbest ways men sabotage themselves in a pending breakup? One is irrationally moving out of the house. Once you’re out, it’s hard to get back in. Two, men have to be self-conscious about raising their voice. The specter of violence, real or imagined, can put a man in a position where he can’t legally recover. Three, the appearance of being self-serving, guys will often not hire an attorney. They think they can handle it or cause retaliatory response on the wife’s part. Whatever the cause, it’s not uncommon for them to be on their side of the table without representation. Or sometimes they’ll use the wife’s attorney. And guess who benefits from that? Finally, men should get divorced when they financially can’t afford it. A lot of times, a guy will say “Well, business is down right now, it’s not the right time. I can’t take on the added expense.” Truth is when you have fewer assets, it’s the best time.

    End of article.

    So as you can see Men’s Health magazine sums up what we talk about here when it comes to marriage and divorce.

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    Puffin Stuff
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    Since you’re married, you’ll never know where your pumpkins head is at due to the most ancient form of female communication, lying, you have to keep your eyes open for even the slightest sign she might be turned off to the relationship. At the first sign of trouble start recording everything and hire an attorney.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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    EG
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    How can MGTOW do anything but grow, even if not by name?

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    CPT Obvious
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    Those words were actually printed and circulated in a popular magazine????

    The hive must have gone ballistic with some truth about divorce being published. I am sure one or more people lost their jobs.

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
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    TaxGuy
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    I wish the guy would have asked one more question: How do you reconcile telling a guy not to move out of the house with her ability to make the one phone call? Wouldn’t you be better off leaving than staying? At least if you aren’t there she can’t have the police remove you whenever she feels like it.

    Order the good wine

    #912369
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    Awakened
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    Well, a page in a major publication is a START….

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

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    Bstoff
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    I’m surprised Cordell and Cordell are still allowed to advertise or say anything publicly.
    I’m surprised they are even in business.
    The only pro-male voice I hear in public is ads from that company.
    It’s like the voice of reason in a sea of lies and deceit.

    How do they get away with speaking the truth?

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    Ogre
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    They get away with it because they only work for men, and if a radio station were to refuse their ad these very experienced lawyers would destroy the station’s legal team in court.

    I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

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    DBCooper
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    Divorces are expensive because they are worth it.

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