Men reveal why they haven't proposed to their partners yet

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

A MGTOW article on the daily mail website, never thought I would see the day!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4149502/Men-reveal-haven-t-proposed-partners-yet.html

Seems a lot of men out there are starting to understand what a bad deal marriage is for men.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Great find! There is hope.
Please God help men to wake the f~~~ up

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[bladeParticipant]

They are still with woman . They will still get burned

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Sky-OParticipant 18933]

I didn’t read the article.

But let me offer the Sky-0’s reasons why they are not proposing yet.

01: They realize that the financial liability exceeds their means. A guy would have to have any assets protected in a trust just to escape a divorce and be able to recover.

02: Women are narcissistic sociopaths.

03: Leasing a vagina that has been smashed by numerous c~~~s prior is not a sign a man loves a woman. It is an indication of stupidity on his part.

04: Women’s secret weapon in their arsenal aka ‘love’ has been exposed for the charade and facade it always was.

05: Adultery is not illegal. So there is no reason to sign up for what being married requires of a man, when a woman suffers no consequences for f~~~ing other guys when married.

06: Domestic violence laws. By cohabitating with a woman, a man wakes up daily with the real risk that he will find himself in handcuffs when Snowflake starts an argument and dials 911.

07: The increasing cost of raising children. And the costs of raising them once mommy leaves with them. Modern day slavery via a man’s c~~~ has become more obvious in the last two decades.

08: Cost of maintaining access to a vagina. The financial, emotional, psychological
and
spiritual costs are far greater than any perceived reward.

09: Life is short. Wasting any amount of time,effort and energy chasing an illusion is not consistent with the life of a logical and rational man. Time is finite and a valuable resource. Men are choosing not to waste it anymore.

10: MGTOW!!

[UntamedParticipant]

Men have woken up and there ain’t putting the genie back into the bottle, no matter what weemins do to manipulate us into “seeing it differently”.
Nope. There is only ONE way to see it and that’s the MGTOW way.
Move over, hoes, and let this man reach the exit. I got money to make, friends to meet, restaurants to sample and Ladies to f~~~.
Marriage… they gotta be out their goddamn mind.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[AttonParticipant]

The sparks are flying and the fire of anti gynocentrism may start.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

GK36, Market Harborough, United Kingdom

All the most successful, desirable men I know are married. I suspect most of the commenters bleating on about not wanting to lose their freedom or assets have neither money, nor a queue of interested women!

I bet this girl(I suspect) chases after the married men and enjoys being the ‘other woman’.

Goes to show that even if they haven’t given up on pussy, more men than ever before are waking up to the fact that marriage is just not worth it

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[xenonParticipant 2007]

Ah, again this morning, life’s issues distilled down to a handful of words:

“02: Women are narcissistic sociopaths.”

pretty much says it all in a helpful warning type of style.

Thanks Sky-o

[KeymasterKeymaster]

They are ALMOST there.

Instead of talking about “what men are saying”, they need to point the camera at themselves. Give them time. Together with the C~~~ington Post, they are the creators of some of the best MGTOW material available for men anywhere (fierce eye bleach warning!).

When the lightning bolt hits them, then they will finally see that men aren’t just “saying” it.

They have revealed the answers themselves.

Maybe “Why men aren’t proposing” has less to do with MEN, and more to do with the f~~~ing Daily Mail and how they reveal 60% of brides who have used dirty tricks to get an engagement ring on their finger. Two out of 3 brides would never have been proposed to in the first place.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251655/Six-brides-used-dirty-tricks-engagement-ring-finger.html

There’s your answer for all the women wondering.
Men didn’t reveal the reasons as much as the Daily Mail did.

Which is a more tangible & easily understood explanation??
• A male opinion? “You know, I’m kinda not seeing the benefits here…”
• Or the FACT that 60% of brides are deceitful & slippery bitches who would use tactics like fake a pregnancy to trap a man, or buy a positive pregnancy test on craigslist. Or that women are happy when their partner/husband is upset.

Take your time ladies.
The truth can wait. For it lives a long time.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Marriage – any relationship with women for that matter – is one long giant s~~~ test. Why subject yourself to that? It can’t and never will change. Because I still like pussy, t~~~ and ass – I’ve turned the dynamic around. Now I administer the s~~~ test. Most women are horrified at the thought of a man throwing the same bulls~~~ our gender has endured for ages back at their precious asses. But you see I’ve devalued their primary asset – vagina. The first sign of BS – I do a 180 and bolt. NFG. Beating off beats getting beaten by some t~~~ with a swelled head.

[BoarParticipant]

Men are beginning to realize that Russian Roulette comes in a financial version as well.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[TwistParticipant]

Its been said here many times, and more gracefully then I am doing it, but:

I have no opinion on marriage, but I absolutely hate the concept of divorce. Since the best way to avoid divorce is to not marry, I have arrived at my opinion on marriage.

The end.

btw, the tone and volume of comments to these kind of articles is very promising. I don’t think we would have seen the outpouring just a few years ago.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Men who haven’t proposed to their partners are smart, intelligent, thoughtful, kind and have someone that loves them that they trust and who has told them the truth of the matter and they listened.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[thisistheguy123Participant 2063]

They’re still dating them, so they’re still part of the problem

One wants a teammate not an anchor, then why are you dating her?

It’s good to see, however I don’t think it’s enough personally.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

It’s a s~~~ show. I tell every young man I meet DO NOT DO IT..

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[TwistParticipant]

PuniShredder wrote:

I tell every young man I meet DO NOT DO IT..

And make sure they understand what you are saying. Like when you get trained in CPR – first step is to instruct someone to call 911 – you don’t just say it, you confirm with the follow up “do you understand?”.

Just like sharing the blessing “DO NOT DO IT”. Follow it with solid eye contact and “Do you understand what I am saying?”. And provide any follow up necessary.

I really think there is no more important message today.

[GrumpyParticipant]

I sped read through the article, because I can.

More of the same fluff and whining. Yet again, as always the onus is placed on the back of all men, and legitimate responses are minimized for shaming purposes.

The word “partner” is an interesting choice to use in a personal relationship scenario. It assumes “equal” shares/liability/responsibility in the investment, which in my limited vocabulary is indicative of a business environment not a personal intimate relationship.
A minimal investment does not automatically ensure partnership, nor does it merit “maximum profit return”. The same applies to a perceived or “promissory” investment.
However I digress.

I will not speak for “all men” as I am only one man and I do not have the authority, experiences, hubris, vanity, nor unmitigated gall to assume that I inherently know everything about my collective gender and all of our issues.
In my lifetime experiences regarding intimate relationships, I have been referred to and as the husband, significant other, partner, old man, special friend, partner, f~~~ buddy, and “the asshole I am stuck with until something better comes along”.
IMHO investing anything in a woman so I can have access to her vagina (it has never been exclusive BTW), while she can take that investment and any future royalty payments and go elsewhere at anytime is a losing proposition for me and something that I personally would never propose nor think of accepting.

TLDR:
Perhaps marriage/cohabitation isn’t worth the risk.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

The best reason I came across in the article was
“I’m still waiting for her sister.”

I’m glad men are waking up to the financial train wreck that is modern marriage.

Let’s see- on one hand, a man can pony up a few hundred thousand for the mansion she will want along with several hundred thousand for kids. And of course she will want exotic vacations and luxury cars. And let’s not forget the bon bon expense as she turns into a whale before your eyes.

Plan B looks good. Bang the sister, buy a dog, and head for the hills.

[TwistParticipant]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

“I’m still waiting for her sister.”

Reminds me of Rodeo sex.

1.Flip her over, buns up kneeling.
2.Give it to her, with a firm grasp on her hips.
3.Coo lovingly to her “your sister is tighter”
4.Try to hold on for the 8 second whistle…

As far as I know, its never been successfully done.

Retired from the sport.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Cost/benefit.

Women are the ultimate failures.

Fuck this planet.

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