Men in Black

[MACHOParticipant]

This article is about “men in black” in UFO conspiracies

In popular culture and UFO conspiracy theories, men in black (MIB) are supposed men dressed in black suits who claim to be government agents who harass or threaten UFO witnesses to keep them quiet about what they have seen. It is sometimes implied that they may be aliens themselves.

The term is also frequently used to describe mysterious men working for unknown organizations, as well as various branches of government allegedly designed to protect secrets or perform other strange activities.

The term is generic, used for any unusual, threatening or strangely behaved individual whose appearance on the scene can be linked in some fashion with a UFO sighting.[1] Several alleged encounters with the men in black have been reported by UFO researchers and enthusiasts.

Stories about allegedly real-life men in black inspired the semi-comic science fiction Men in Black franchise of comic books, films, and other media

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MACHOParticipant]

Me, Me, Me, Me 2

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 14]

Ah, the MIB’s. Reminds me of the beloved X-Files 🙂

[WPLParticipant 2390]

I’ve studied the UFO phenomenon for 30 years now (not saying that I’m a “true believer” — I’m more of a skeptic when it comes to theories about extraterrestial origins, although I do think SOMETHING real is going on). Some of the MIB stories are quite spooky and some of the witnesses are hard to impugn, but I think that, for the most part, the stories are “invented”.

[MACHOParticipant]

This one is real good, check out the video starting at 31:25 it you are impatient.

UFOs: I KNOW WHAT I SAW – 2017 Best UFO HD Movie UFOTV®

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Left siteParticipant 451]

For the record I do believe there are other intelligent beings out there.

[MACHOParticipant]

With so many witnesses it becomes hard to deny the existence of E.T beings!

Left site wrote:

For the record I do believe there are other intelligent beings out there.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[bladeParticipant]

Will look for doco later .

Along time ago in the outback there was a story of a police officer comming across an old car doing dohnuts on the dirt in the middle of no where . The car wouldnt stop and as he looked into thr car he could see they werent human all in black and wierd eyes . If i remember i the car dissapeared .

I herd this story out there a couple of times and thought in one hand bulls~~~ and then thought of the bizzare s~~~ in places i had come across .

From a source that was reliable and close to this bloke i herd the story . I beleave the story .

Will look for doco later as i had a quick look

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[hmskl’dParticipant 6408]

I always wonder when a new government is formed, ie a new party takes office .. if they “someone” sits them down and informs them that, yes, alien life does exist and they are currently here .. already. Or, possibly, that contact has been made .. or even that we have simply had verification that there is life on other planets. I always wonder if this is what they tell a new P_resident and his cabinet.

So, assuming there may be men in black, I also have gut feeling they are not government. The government, which argues about endless things like increasing debt limits and gun control, just just doesn’t seem to be cutting edge enough to be part of it. No matter who is running the show and even the CI_A% or N*SA_# .. or like agencies. I don’t believe they have a clue if aliens do exist and are behind the curve .. totally behind the curve. It would have leaked by now.

Possibly a shadow government? Are they involved? Unlikely.

More likely than not, my instinct tells me that it’s the aliens themselves. If there are “Men in Black” .. it seem logical that no one in the government or any of their agencies has a clue. If they did .. again, it would have leaked by now. I just don’t believe any government agency or official .. elected or career .. really knows the true answer whether aliens are among us.

[bladeParticipant]

Spent about 40 minutes looking for a short doco on it but it appears the men in black have deleted it from YOUTUBE. Lol . If i come across it in the future i will drop it on a thread of yours .

Home i lived in with the ex i rented first home after we met was haunted . The spirit seen could be identified as the same . Not just myself but people who lived upstairs and even a lady from the realestate had copped it . It really f~~~ed with women and kids .

I beleave in energy points that are dimensional . Gaurdians of good and bad and benevolent . Bigfoot and ufo activity . What a tank of a scary avatar .

Some people only pick up when close or living on a portal gateway .

Some can pick up more frequency from distance and have unique abilities depending on what there tapping into .

Lost skills of ability that humans will learn in time and tap back into . Humans are still toddlers .

Spiritual gifts and more .

How many different dimensions . People see good and evil . But surely gods creation of earth would not only be . Like the discovery of new continents there will be discoveries of things forgotten .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MACHOParticipant]

That’s been my very thought, the top guys must know more than the average Joe!

hmskl’d wrote:

I always wonder when a new government is formed, ie a new party takes office .. if they “someone” sits them down and informs them that, yes, alien life does exist and they are currently here .. already. Or, possibly, that contact has been made

Yep the MIB have made those docs disappear, probably caused the 404 error code too! They are trying to keep us from talking about them 😜

blade wrote:

Spent about 40 minutes looking for a short doco on it but it appears the men in black have deleted it from YOUTUBE. Lol

Gone they are then!

blade wrote:

But surely gods creation of earth would not only be

God must have created more than one humanoid like race across the vast expanse of space!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[bladeParticipant]

MACHO wrote:

God must have created more than one humanoid like race across the vast expanse of space!

completely beleave .

I beleave space goes on forever but what if it was a loop within a loop . Space time repeat . If space goes on forever then anything we can imagine is possible and happening . Even now like a reflection in the mirror .

I just think along our path of history there is things twisted to suite the victories of the then rulers of the time . There perception different .

Maybe those points of energy on earth dont just flood the earth from points of energy but carry on threw space like a signal a frequency .

The energy when waterdivinig is different to spiritual (different energy). Dont touch quioji boards a new thing i hear is growing . Prayer before opening and closing . Closing shutting connection .

So if you have ghosts of men in black with lots of ghost stories including my own could there be some connection .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

General Kenobi wrote:

Ah, the MIB’s. Reminds me of the beloved X-Files

Ahhhh you two .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Gravel PitParticipant]

If there are beings we don’t know about; they were already here or we created them. Interstellar travel is near impossible for flesh beings. They could be droid beings. Any legitimate UFO sightings are not ETs. They are either ET recon drone craft or man-made (reverse-engineered man-made).

It would not be hard for another more advanced hominem group to hide from us if they also evolved here and had a tech/industrial age several thousands of years before us. They could have built stealthy underwater/sea cave bases or camouflaged bases in artic regions. They could also have bases on Moons and other celestial bodies in this solar system. If they keep a low population and perfect stealth, they could be sharing the planet with an unknowing race like us.

But for people to claim beings came from another system, bulls~~~. FTL travel is simply impossible. Too much Hollywood and Elon Musk fans. The nearest systems are 10’s of thousands of years away. Colony ships are also bulls~~~ and they would stick out like a sore thumb. The geologic time scales are just too vast, the spacetime distances too vast. The absence of useable light energy and elemental resources in Interstellar space is too sparse. Beings can’t survive space. The ships would have to be moon sized to be able to survive those journeys. And the journeys to find life near us would be akin to doing the breaststroke in the Pacific ocean, enroute to find one specific whale in the entire ocean. It would take millenniums to reach another Earth.

The physics and time is the problem, not the tech. An advanced species is going to face the same physical limits aspiring to go star bound. They are non-breakable limits. The is the one and true Fermi Paradox Filter, all others come after.

It would be like winning the MegaMillions Jack pot 100 times in a row to even witness a non-native, AI-drone-fly-by-recon-craft that takes pictures, sent from an alien civilization that is already well extinct or so far away, by the time they can act on that knowledge we’ll of already evolved into a new ape.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Damn Gravel Pit. You are like the RED PILL of space travel. EAT MY TACHYONS!

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[Left siteParticipant 451]

Gravlepit actually ftl is possible in theory. Look at reality as a graph for a minute. Two axis on it one being time and the other space. We can consider our current reality the orogin (0,0) now on other points in the graph time can move faster or slower than our current preception of it. By entering a compressed time reality the can travel much faster than ever thought possible. This is all part of string theory. Multiple realities each only slightly different. But by using one where time moves slower and distances are decreased it is hypothetically possible to achieve ftl.

Shoot for the moon my friend because even if you miss you will end up among the stars.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Left site wrote:

Shoot for the moon

I don’t buy it, but I’ll Star ya brother for just being gung-ho for sci fi. I love it. I listen to all the Issac Authur shows. But I’m also a realist (some people call it pessimism lol).

It’s cute that it could work as a theory but I never bought into the multiple universes thing making FTL possible. I’m sure our kind, once evolved more, and able to harness energy better as in Dyson Swarms, we’ll be able to do some crazy s~~~. Perhaps we’ll even colonize a few star systems but it won’t be like Columbus’ New World and Star Wars trade routes. Theses systems will have dang near no contact with one another. The communication delay will be hundreds or thousands of years even when we’re a type 1 civilization.

For me, I’m not an astro physicist but I look at spacetime as one single dimension because that is what it is. All this 1,2,3d & then add time is bogus. Spacetime is one uniform fabric. Length, Depth and Height are already combined with time. Gravity is the thing warping it. FTL is frankly lubricous. You realize, you need ambitious amounts of energy to even go 1% lightspeed. To achieve faster than light, you literally need all the energy in the Universe. This is relativity.

Anyway, it’s good for imagination and brain storming but this species will never do anything remarkable besides what we’ve already done. The species who is going to make contact and seed another habitable world is going to be a genetically modified version of homo sapien. All the real homo sapiens like us will be obliterated back to the bronze/tribal age where we belong. Our better selves will take over in a few hundred years. They will make a colony ship and leave Earth around the year 3000 and they will make it to Orgae 6 in about 300,000 thousand years. LOL

[Left siteParticipant 451]

True man only time will tell. But maybe one day.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Left site wrote:

Gravlepit actually ftl is possible in theory. Look at reality as a graph for a minute. Two axis on it one being time and the other space. We can consider our current reality the orogin (0,0) now on other points in the graph time can move faster or slower than our current preception of it. By entering a compressed time reality the can travel much faster than ever thought possible. This is all part of string theory. Multiple realities each only slightly different. But by using one where time moves slower and distances are decreased it is hypothetically possible to achieve ftl.

Shoot for the moon my friend because even if you miss you will end up among the stars.

Time and space are directly related. I suspect that if you travel fast enough time would slow.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

MarketWatcher wrote:

Time and space are directly related. I suspect that if you travel fast enough time would slow.

Relative to an observer, yes. Timedilation 101. We’re just highly skeptical of flesh beings (us or them) being able to make it from star to star. They are out there for sure, it’s simple numbers but we will never meet them.

The nearest stars in any direction would take like 10,000+ years to fly to. Needless to say, there isn’t any breathable air or any elemental resources out there that can be used to sustain a crew and vessel. Starlight is also dim and useless out there. This makes the proposition that we’ve been visited by any extraterrestrials improbable.

You would need significant velocity to make star trips reasonable for fleshly beings. The speeds needed are unrealistic. For example, the nearest star is Proxima Centauri 4 lightyears away. So even if you could travel at lightspeed (physically impossible because you’d need all the energy of thousands of galaxies) it would take 4 years.

The problem is we can’t even build a manned craft that can do 1% of lightspeed (which would make the trip “only” 400 years). And if we could build that manned craft, it would take the crew about 900 years or so, just to hop to the next lifeless star, confirm that it’s lifeless, and come back. To explore a dozen stars would take millenniums and this still doesn’t solve the problem of no fuel, air or food to sustain a crew during these 500 year legs.

The only realistic solution (used in sci-fi) is hibernation/cryosleep chambers/freezing people etc… these models will not work in real life and to the extent they do work, it’s unhelpful. Wormholes conveniently located near Saturn don’t exist (Interstellar) and if they did exist, they’d be suicide for sure and rip the vessel to shreds.

The only realistic way to make the trip is to build massive, massive ships that can sustain life for dozens of generations. To accept the fact that its going to take several thousands of years to get there. The ship would have an atmosphere, trees, bodies of water and thousands of people. Generations of people would live and die without ever knowing what a real planet was like.

Given the physical barriers to star travel alone, we should never expect to meet real aliens. What if they come here on one of these colony ships? The odds are astronomically small. Not saying it can’t happen but the odds are like winning the mega millions lottery a thousand times in a row, for even one alien colony ship to visit Earth once in a Billion years.

So flesh and blood aliens are not going to happen. Its more likely (granted not much more likely but still) to encounter unmanned reconnaissance drones from a distant, sentient species. The time is still long winded though. If you saw one, we can expect that the craft is 100,000’s of years old or even millions so the odds of whatever species built it, to still be alive is out the window. They’re either extinct or evolved.

I think the odds of our future, descendant, hominem species (like 10 more apes from now as we look back on homo Ergaster and homo Australopithecus a few million years ago)… the odds of them meeting another star bourn species is pretty good. But that encounter will be many millions of years from now, we wont even resemble ourselves. As far as us building colony ships, mini dyson swarms and reaching escape velocity; I think it will take about 1000 more years to perfect gene modification enough to truly be up to the task. Currently we’re malbred dirty apes who fight and f~~~. There is no common goal or even an agreement on what the goal should be. We’re too busy martyring religious zealots and buying mePhones.

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