Men Genocide Themselves Over Women

[JosephParticipant 274]

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This will be my opening introduction post. I wanted to do something a little different and give back to this community. I had been lurking without an account for years and this ridiculous article was enough to finally make me sign up for an account and post my detailed logical fallacy analysis of the alt-right tradtard conservicuck mind.

The article excerpts will be in italics.

MGTOW: MEN GENOCIDE THEMSELVES OVER WOMEN

I think the title alone is enough to adequately sum up the MGTOW movement. “MGTOW”, or Men Going Their Own Way, is the Hegelian “anti-thesis” of feminism… It’s the opposite side of the same coin. The end result or “synthesis”, being the complete and total evaporation of the people it has been used against… Namely, people of native European stock, wherever they are living throughout the world.

From the opening paragraph you see the fallacy and double think within the tradcuck. MGTOW is not a movement. It is a philosophy or belief about the world and men’s place in it. It is specific to each individual man hence the term “own”. It’s not a cult. There is no leader. No rallying point. No central authority.

MGTOW is not the opposite of feminism. While feminists try to change laws to make life and society easier for women MGTOW understand that the government, society, and civilization is rotten to the core and not worth saving. It’s not worth extending time, energy, effort, and money to further a specific political agenda. But that time energy effort and money is better used by turning those things towards the self in order to improve one’s self own life as an individual man.

As for the claims the European race is dying out and being genocided by the foreign muslim invader memes I would like to refer you to black pill gangster’s video here and these two websites with official government stats here and here. This topic is largely beyond the scope of this post. But the facts and evidence linked above will lead you into making your own conclusions. In my opinion the evidence does not support the claim that the European people are dying out or some nonsense. This claim is a large part of the tradcuck alt-right conservitard blowhard talking points.

What is most troubling is the fact that many on the “right” appear to lend credence to this worldview. They acknowledge the fact that their people are currently being dissolved with falling birthrates and mass importation of foreign populations, yet they seem to heap blame on women, and encourage others to do the same.

He blames men for blaming women yet look at the paragraph below and he will contradict himself.

Treating women badly and being bitter regarding them is a weak and feminine trait. That is not to say this behaviour is unfathomable given the present climate. Feminism and brutal cultural subversion have damaged modern women in such a way that they are beyond recognition. This attack on women was aimed at targeting their biggest flaws, such as vanity, and bringing them to the forefront.

This is pure lies and a logical fallacy. Mgtow does not equal treating women badly or being bitter. And even if a man made the choice to treat woman badly or be bitter then what does this have to do with MGTOW? That’s the own man’s choice how he will treat a person and how he will feel regarding a person.

Then at the same time the tradcuck even admits in his own words that women’s very minds are damaged at the cultural and society wide level making the claim that “they are beyond recognition”.

So he turns right around and starts blaming women for having damaged minds that are beyond recognition. He just contradicted himself here. He proves himself a hypocrite and a fool.

Let’s be very clear; the attack on women was engineering wholly to turn our men and women against one another; thus lowering the birth rates and furthering the stated goal. (Read: “The UN’s Population Replacement Plan You Probably Haven’t Hear Of”)

The author will prove himself a hypcorite once again. In this paragraph he blames the UN for what women have become. Yet we see he contradicts himself again and starts blaming men again. It cannot be both men and the UN. Either this is an organized attack upon men by the UN. Or it is men who are MGTOW who are wholly to blame. It cannot be both as that makes no sense.

If you are someone subscribing to the MGTOW movement, or someone who adheres to the anti-woman sentiment instilled by pickup culture; you have fallen prey to the selfsame mind virus that feminists have.

Completely illogical and makes no sense. MGTOW is about a man doing everything within himself and his power to help himself be happy, to give himself a good life, and to treat himself very well, to take care of himself and not let ANYONE steal his time, energy, life, money, or resources away from him.

MGTOW is not a mind virus that infects the minds of men and turns them into bitter and vengeful people.

Women are the victim of feminism and degenerate modernity, they should not be hated for the results. Rather, we should pity and help them overcome it; because they are only hurting themselves and their children. This only leads to high rates of unhappiness for women as the stats show. Do you really believe that these women are intentionally trying to erase their legacy and make themselves suffer while doing it? Of course not, they have been duped like many men have, not recognizing the times in which they live.

This is fail. No one has the right to tell any man how he should feel in the face of gross terrible disgusting injustice. He doesn’t have the right to dictate like a tyrant how men should feel about anything. Let the man make his OWN decision how he should feel.

The tradcuck reels his ugly head be captain save a ho and pity and help women overcame their problems. Will the woman help you as a man overcome your problems? Will society help you overcome your problems? This is self destructive mind control. This self sacrifice white knight retardation leads to nothing but pain misery and failure with a lot of time money energy and effort thrown into the toilet and flushed like a piece of s~~~. Think of all the resources wasted on someone that doesn’t love you, care about you, treat you well, or help you in your times of need.

Yes we should all help the woman that are hurting themselves and their kids. Listen stupid cucktard. If you want to help every woman who has problems go right ahead. But don’t you dare tell other men to fall into your self sacrifice self destruction mind control bulls~~~.

It’s not my responsibility to solve other people’s problems especially when they do not help me and there is no equal exchange. I am not super man. I am not the saviour of mankind. STOP SAYING THAT I SHOULD BE.

People should LEARN from THEIR OWN MISTAKES. How will they learn if mind controlled conservicucks like you fall on your sword every time a woman breaks a nail? Disgusting behaviour.

As men we should be looking out for the weakest amongst us, we should be comforting the sick, and educating the ignorant. If these people knew what we know, they would not behave the way they do. Therefore, it is important always to bear in mind the fact that this is a deliberate attack, and we should not shun the people it has hit the hardest.

Listen cuck your lying to yourself. Why don’t you care about MEN? WHY DON’T YOU CARE? So while you hide behind the Jesus talk you are actually only referring to women. This makes you a liar and a hypocrite. That only women should be helped. That only women are in need. That only women are important. That women deserve your worship. Women that you don’t even know who they are and they don’t even give a f~~~ing s~~~ about you.

MGTOW, like feminism, has some vaguely positive and truthful aspects. It could not be successful any other way. The basic credo of the MGTOW movement is this: “Modern women are decadent, vain, and manipulative, the best choice for a man is to completely divorce himself from them and live alone.”

Once again this is not the definition of MGTOW. MGTOW is all about a man giving himself the BEST life that he can according to his needs wants desires and preferences specifically for HIM and HIM ALONE as an INDIVIDUAL. It doesn’t have anything to do about women unless the individual MGTOW decides and makes the choice to have it to about that.

They fail to ask the question; “why are modern women this way?”

MGTOW do not fail to ask the question. MGTOW just doesn’t give a f~~~ about people that don’t give a s~~~ about them. And MGTOW will not be mind controlled into self destructive behaviour like becoming some white knighting self sacrificing retard for a women that doesn’t even know them like you.

The first part of this statement is true, but the solution is insane and unnatural in every way. Men actively separating themselves from women, what if the men of the past did this? We would not be here today.

Why the F~~~ do you even give a single s~~~ about men that you don’t know who they are who don’t want to get into relationships with damaged crazy diseased mentally unhinged obese and nasty women? Let the man decide what kinds of relationships he will have and with whom he will have it. You are not the God over men deciding and throwing down judgement on men demanding that ALL men get into relationships with anyone that happens to be around.

If this separation from women came in the form celibacy, it wouldn’t be a particularly bad thing. Once a man becomes completely celibate for any length of time, it is virtually impossible for him to cling on to anything as weak and effeminate as hating women. However, this separation often comes in the form of advocating the use of prostitutes, while opportunistically snatching a one night stand here and there… They advocate simultaneously living alone, hoarding money for oneself, and living a bachelors life indefinitely. Because life is about consumerism, not having any responsiblity, and pointless hedonism, isn’t it?

Once again he believes he is God and can dictate to men how they should feel when something really terrible happens to them. Dictating to men what they can and can’t hate who they can and can’t hate.

If a man wants to spend resources on prostitutes and 1 night stands that’s his choice. It doesn’t have anything to do with me and it sure as F~~~ doesn’t have anything to do with you. Its the man’s own choices to decide where and how he will save or spend money. Saving money is very smart he stupidly and euphemistically calls it hoarding. What’s better dumbass to save someone so that you can buy something nice for yourself or spend it all on a woman that you say you should save because they are weak and derserve to be saved by you. Go ahead and spend all your money running around saving women. Me and other MGTOW who aren’t dumb f~~~ retarded will save our money and spend our money the way we WANT. Which is the way it will benefit us.

Can you imagine what a traditional man from the 1920’s, or the 1820’s, or the 1720’s, would think about this pathetic and selfish existence? A man burrowing himself away from women (usually due to past hurt and bitterness), while neglecting all basic male duties like providing a good life for wife and progeny… “What kind of existence is that?” Would probably be the question. In fact, they probably couldn’t even comprehend the suicidal concept.

Its not the f~~~ing 1600’s anymore. That was the past this is now. How is it pathetic and selfish to save and spend money only in the way that is going to give a man a better life? How is it pathetic and selfish to not want to throw money away trying to save someone that doesn’t want a man’s help? Who gives you the right to force other men to contort themselves into the saviour of women.

Your definition of basic male duty is your opinion. It’s up to each man as an individual adult human being to decide for himself what his duties are and what his duties ARE NOT. If a man does not want to get married or does not want to have children and wants to spend time focusing on other things then so be it. You are not God over male adult choices and you are not the end all be all JUDGE of what a man’s duty is or what a man’s duty is not.

Men used to value self-sacrifice, serving others, and bearing the weight of adversity so women and children didn’t have to. Where have those men gone?

The where have all the good men can femicuck libtard conservitard battlecry.

It’s a 2 way street buddy. If society, government, women, whoever it is does not help, nurture, and show men love caring compassion and wisdom then why would a man put time, money, energy, effort, his life, his blood, sweat and tears, and resources into something that he does not benefit from?

Why don’t you ever talk about what men get out of it? Why don’t you ever talk about what men receive? Why is it so important for you to have women get everything out of it and men giving everything. This is not balanced. Where there is no balance there will be no foundation. And where there is no foundation nothing will stand.

Of course, all that this manufactured women hatred does is push more women away from men and into the clutches of poisonous ideologies like feminism, which in turn leads men to poisonous ideologies like MGTOW. Do you see how this works? The thesis (feminism et al) and the anti-thesis (MGTOW et al) will duke it out until the synthesis (ethnic dissolution) is achieved.

There is no genocide happening. The human race is not dying out. There’s more people alive then ever before. And again MGTOW doesn’t have anything to do with hating women. Women don’t have anything to do with it. MGTOW is a man making decisions for himself that is going to benefit him. If a woman ends up losing out TO F~~~ING BAD. If society ends up losing out TO F~~~ING BAD. MGTOW will survive because MGTOW are smart with their resources and smart with their time.

This is why “false opposition” infiltrators are currently attempting to steer the right away from its traditional enemies, and framing women as the source of all problems. This pathetic attempt is blindingly obvious to me, we may discuss this at length in another article. It suffices to say, when you see a popular right-wing personality take this tact; they are perpetuating and supporting the displacement of a people.

The only infiltrators are people like you. Conservative people stuck in the tradcon mind control bulls~~~ still thinking its the fourteen f~~~ing hundreds. You know nothing about marriage law, divorce law, family court, or common law. You know nothing about how the government litterally destroys men every single day. Steals from men. Takes from men. And you sit their typing on your f~~~ing computer how men need to GIVE even more of themselves to a system that doesn’t give a f~~~ about them and will literally KILL them.

As as the new acronym; “Men Genocide Themselves Over Women” suggests, men who decide to “go their own way” will hurt themselves primarily. Working hard and baring strain alone for the sake of your wife and children is the greatest and most fulfilling act any man can carry out. It’s going to be hard to find a wife who has not been affected by the mind virus, but divorcing yourself from nature herself and committing mass suicide is not a solution for anything. Neither is creating more damaged women by inadvertently pushing them over to that way of being.

This paragraph just makes me laugh so much. People literally believe this. And literally think thinking this way is good.

You fail to demonstratively prove how it will hurt a man who is MGTOW.

You fail to demonstratively prove how working hard and baring strain alone for the sake of your wife and children is the greatest and most fulfilling act a man can do.

You fail to demonstratively prove how a man will find a wife who has not been affected by the mind virus.

You fail to demonstratively prove how refusing to marry someone a man doesn’t like and having kids with her means committing mass suicide and divorcing from nature.

With God’s help we will reverse this insidious social engineering and return to the natural order as it was designed, beautifully, with one man and one women becoming one flesh.

You are not God over men. Other people’s relationships or lack of one is none of your God damned business. Instead of trying to be a control freak forcing men to marry who just don’t want to. Get busy living your own life and let people live theirs.

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[bladeParticipant]

Welcome bro .
Well written and intresting read .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Great post but you have to understand this guy is either paid to write this or was educated to think like this he is so brainwashed and blue pill that nothing you tell him will penetrate into his mind unless he is ready to hear it for himself and ask.

Your post has great value to those who are willing to ask the though questions and do their own research and for the most part I see nothing wrong with what you wrote. Welcome to the forums and thanks for contributing.

[joetechParticipant]

That’s quite a long introduction. I’ve read articles claiming we’re a cult. It makes it sound like we’re going to start another Jonestown and drink Koolaid to deprive women of our very existence. Ridiculous. MGTOW doesn’t advocate treating women at all. We ignore them and let them provide their own treats. As more and more men quietly leave the reservation (or plantation, if you prefer) more articles will be written by so called experts. The same experts that gave us the domino theory and mutually assured destruction scenarios before the Soviet Union collapsed from the inside, surprising our own intelligence experts. Eventually men and women will be at a standoff with women asking what they need to do to get us back, and men quietly ignoring their pleas as we drink a new male contraceptive that kills sperm cells and then turning our backs on the whole mess. I read an article a few days ago that said that Stephen Hawkings predicts we have another 100 years before this planet is uninhabitable. Overpopulation was cited as a key factor. We don’t need more children anyway, and with more men opting out of fatherhood and marriage I see women finding themselves without any hope whatsoever, and they can thank liberals and feminists for the solace of being childless old maids. But, they’ll blame MGTOW and the men that are depriving them, not themselves. Oh well. I’ve had my rant. Welcome to the forums.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome Joseph! 🍺🍺

You are definitely a man that got hurt! No Tuna here in your posting 😎

Pull yourself a chair and enjoy the forums.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Welcome brother. This wave is rolling faster and faster.

It took me months to digest and interact with the broken world around me.

Now, more and more brothers like yourself are understanding and defending yourself accordingly.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Genocide

Refusing to sacrifice yourself to save the world is not the same thing as destroying it.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

In regards to your article, which I spent minimal time reviewing because there is NO Shortage of that CRAP Out There, and THEY keep producing more DAILY !!

NO F~~~s Given for the Author or the Drivel he produced !!

This article was produced by some Blue Pill mangina for other Blue Pill mangina’s and Feminazis.

Just a suggestion, instead of Spending your time analyzing his CRAP, Why Not INVEST that time in enriching yourself ??

Welcome !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 1]

Read The Manipulated Man by Villar instead(if you miss that) or just listen to a lot of Tom Leykis shows, that is a better use of your time. I bet most of those writers miss that material, because they would label it as “misogynistic”.

We had bluepill bull thrown at us for years, after you wake up it is better to consume redpill material.

Welcome to the forum.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I really enjoyed reading your post. It was well written but beyond my attention span…lol.

One part you wrote is that women don’t want to be the monsters. Despite that they’ve become especially antimale and prowoman regarding custody laws.

It is my opinion that women learn by age 12 exactly how to manipulate a man into marriage and baby’s. Most don’t actually have children until average 28.

By 12 they know they can get divorced. Mom’s are especially sure to lecture the girls on surviving divorce the boys not so much. My mom did my sister I found out recently and explains my sisters always working in case her ex leaves her.

So women have many years of planning on men. Planning how to divorce rape a beta.

They go into marriage with a plan for divorce. I give no quarter to women who have divorce dumped the love of their life.

They are defective and deep inside hate men.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[JosephParticipant 274]

Thanks for the warm welcome. I just had to get that off my chest. I rarely spend time analyzing stuff like this but it was just too ridiculous to ignore. I’ve read the manipulated man and listened to plenty of tom. Both have very informative points that they make. The wave of men waking up to this unjust system will not stop. The laws can easily be found and read by any man willing to take a look. As for woman being conditioned to divorce. The laws are made in such a way where if any divorce happens and the man does not plan accordingly then a large percentage of his future earnings can be taken away from him by force of arms. High paying corporate woman who marry and then divorce a man that earns significantly less than themselves also are beginning to feel the heat. The marriage law is 100% antiquated in my opinion. But time does not reverse and the knowledge and wisdom gained through pain and suffering is not forgotten.

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[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Very interesting and well thought out post. Welcome Brother!

I only dissent regarding the Alt-right comment. If it was not for us we would have a post wall feminist c~~~ for a President.

You’re welcome.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Hey, dead if you don’t f~~~, dead sooner if you do.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Joseph
Beer’s in the fridge

[Anonymous 14]

Great first post, and yes, that guy is mostly full of s~~~. A few things I have noticed- He feels that the U.N. wants to reduce population and that White men are “Genociding” themselves. Well, firstly, no government want’s to reduce population, everything is based on growth. Growth is good for business as it creates demand, and, for the most part, governments are in the business of doing what is good for corporate health. Now, in more educated cultures people are having less and less children. This has nothing to do with race, it just so happens that when compared with the third world, predominantly White nations are more educated. So, they are having less and less children. This is also why many of these nations are fine with all kinds of immigration that is needed to simulate growth. About the only good thing I can say about FIAT money is that it facilitates growth, and oh boy do they love printing and lending something they don’t have. Literally wealth out of thin air for those who do the lending…Best ongoing magic trick of all time. With great amounts of growth in an economy things do well, and therefore all the better for Elites to scrape large bunches of wealth off the top…

As far as the Mid East goes, it is a circle of s~~~ that is good for business as the War Machine is big time money. The more you bomb, the more you get people to flee (who also in turn help prop up declining population growth in the countries they flee to), the more you let them into other countries, the more they do crazy things once there, the more you have reason to bomb, the more you get people to flee… And so goes the circle of s~~~. What it always comes down to is this one question; What is best for business?

Another useful byproduct of all of this for those in control is that they end up with countries destabilized that they want destabilized and countries that they have control over destabilized as well, and therefore easier to control, as where before there may have been a social identity (Think Iceland, as they were able to break away from the Globalist bankers) it is now eroded with infighting and ever increasing chaos. Good luck getting everyone on the same page to push back against something when destabilized and in chaos because of infighting.

Divide and Conquer, Sun Tzu style.

[AttonParticipant]

Technology is the liberator of man, with or without the cooperation of women the sun will still rise. The population will be replaced by new children born with technology and free of disease. Society will not collapse but grow, because the drive of man to be free is what is going to win in the end.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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