Men aged 50 years without children : +7,6 % in one generation

[RAT-7Participant 69]

This is french governmental statistics but i think it’s similar for europe and north america. If you have stat for your country i’m very interested (for an mgtow article i’m writing).

12,8% of the men born between 1941 et 1945 have not had children.

20,6% of the men born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

For the women :

12,1% of the women men born between 1941 et 1945 have not had children.

13,5 % of the women born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

Conclusion : +7,8 for men in one generation and only +1.4% for women. I am eager to know the next statistics for those born between 1965-1975 ….

Source : http://www.insee.fr/fr/themes/document.asp?reg_id=0&ref_id=FPORSOC13g_D1_fecond (sorry not in english)

I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of a woman, nor ask a woman to live for mine.

[Anonymous 42]

RAT-7 wrote:

20,6% of the men born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

That’s when feminism’s octopus started getting it’s tentacles all over everything, mine is the generation now longest exposed to this sickness! The rate will soar well over 50% or higher once the MGTOW tree’s roots penetrate deep!

It’s my pleasure as one human being to another to be one of it founding fathers, and every day I fertilize and water this god-sent tree!

Allot of men’s lives fortunes and happiness will become preserved under this tree… Allot of evil deeds will be prevented by this tree…

[AttonParticipant]

I think that number of going to climb over the years.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

RAT-7 wrote:

20,6% of the men born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

That’s when feminism’s octopus started getting it’s tentacles all over everything, mine is the generation now longest exposed to this sickness! The rate will soar well over 50% or higher once the MGTOW tree’s roots penetrate deep!

It’s my pleasure as one human being to another to be one of it founding fathers, and every day I fertilize and water this god-sent tree!

Allot of men’s lives fortunes and happiness will become preserved under this tree… Allot of evil deeds will be prevented by this tree…

I’m basking in its shade now Tower. Having a beer and listening to the birds.

Smells wonderful out here … the smell of freedom.

Btw … this grass is going to need trimming soon.

It is indeed a beautiful tree. I thank all its caretakers.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I love it. More data.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Thanks for the information.

I’m glad to see some men are waking up. I can’t believe the years I wasted trying to please women.

[Anonymous 11]

My interpretation of this data, due to men relative to women having a greater percentage increase, is that more children are being fathered by pump ‘n dump Chads with the welfare state or betas taking responsibility for them.

I think the next cohort will see a continuation of the trend. More and more single moms are exactly what the world needs.

[Anonymous 42]

ILiveAgain wrote:

It is indeed a beautiful tree. I thank all its caretakers.

Hey ILA, I also do arborculture, I’ve grafted and weaved bark back together to restore circulation in this one tree, otherwise the tree would have died, it grew to a good size and healed up fine, then cut down to make way for a trellis, oh well that’s the life of a regular tree.

The MGTOW tree endlessly sprouts shoots from the roots and can’t be killed, in fact any cutting just makes it spread out even further, until they give up, then all those thousands of shoots grow to become their own tree.

There’s hell to pay for what women have collectively done. I believe it’s MGTOW’s contention we’re not the ones to be tossed in this gender war fire’s hell, we know how to say f~~~-it and run!

Anonymous wrote:

I think the next cohort will see a continuation of the trend. More and more single moms are exactly what the world needs.

We now have generations of female breeding farms that spawn societies bastard children with all the mental illness that incubates as men and the father figure are removed without a trace.

You go girl! Stoke those flames! That’s one hell of a hot fire! Your future? In those flames you will die alone.

[Buller100Participant 2189]

I was born in 59 but have a few good pals 10 years younger most have not had children , I can see that percentage rising quite quickly.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

RAT-7 wrote:

12,8% of the men born between 1941 et 1945 have not had children.

20,6% of the men born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

For the women :

12,1% of the women men born between 1941 et 1945 have not had children.

13,5 % of the women born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

See?
12.8% was almost the same as 12.1%
BUT
20.6% is VERY different from 13.5%
The gap will grow, more and more.
That confirms my theory that feminism encourage primitiveness in women.
In nature the top 20% men have reproductive access to 80% women, and under particular situations – like a sudden gap in men’s wealth created by a new technology: agriculture – such gap can be even much larger:
http://www.psmag.com/nature-and-technology/17-to-1-reproductive-success
8,000 Years Ago, 17 Women Reproduced for Every One Man
An analysis of modern DNA uncovers a rough dating scene after the advent of agriculture.
For men born between 1981-85 it’ll be far over 30%, and for women born between 1981-85 it’ll barely reach 15%. And such gap will grow more and more: I guess that for men born between 2001 and 2005 it’ll surpass 50%, when instead women born between 2001 and 2005 will be still slightly under 20%.
Keep in mind, the natural situation is:

80% of the men have not had children.

20 % of the women have not had children.

Given our actual society, women will ask more and more support from the state, through taxation of men.
Naturally, women having more and more power will HATE men who aren’t supporting them, and we’ll see it in new misandrist laws: such thing will be new, since in nature women, due they’re physically weaker, generally do not have political power over men.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[RAT-7Participant 69]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Given our actual society, women will ask more and more support from the state, through taxation of men.

Yep … big big s~~~ is coming….

I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of a woman, nor ask a woman to live for mine.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Hey RAT-7,

Welcome home brother! +1 for being you. I am glad you are here.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

And im just here wondering where we will get as many cats for all the feminists to have…

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Anonymous wrote:

Allot of men’s lives fortunes and happiness will become preserved under this tree… Allot of evil deeds will be prevented by this tree…

If the tree of MGTOW saves so much as one man’s life it will have been well worth it.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Anonymous 5]

You cannot stop Mgtow we are what drives the positive development of evolution. We will usher in a new age of logic and fairness by simply going our on way. Eat that SJW’s and evil feminists.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

RAT-7 wrote:

12,8% of the men born between 1941 et 1945 have not had children.

20,6% of the men born between 1961 et 1965 have not had children.

It’s worse that that, even. Yes, the difference in the percentages is only 7.6%, but that 7.6% represents a 60.9% increase in the segment of the male population declining fatherhood.

That’s massive.

And it’s only going to accelerate.

Eric Lauder wrote:

Given our actual society, women will ask more and more support from the state, through taxation of men.

Which men will avoid by dropping out of the taxable economy. We are already seeing this happen. Literally millions of men in the U.K. have simply “vanished” off the tax rolls. And the nes who remain visible will do the bare minimum to support themselves, leaving no surplus for the tax man to take and give to women. We are also seeing this happen in minimum wage “lad culture”.

Civilization depends utterly on men producing a massive surplus. And men used to willingly produce that surplus because part of it went to support their own children. Moreover fathers would hope to produce enough to leave a legacy for their children to inherit. Childless men have no such incentives. They see no need to produce a surplus or a legacy, and so no surplus or legacy is produced.

Meanwhile women continue to have children regardless, with no curb placed on their consumption of wealth. So we end up with increased consumption and collapsing production. It’s happening right now. The massive, unprecedented, impossible public debt levels we see today are no coincidence.

Anonymous wrote:

Eat that SJW’s and evil feminists.

Heh. Because soon enough they won’t have anything to eat at all. These statistics are a signpost on the road to inevitable economic and social collapse.

But that’s not our problem.

[OldBillParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Civilization depends utterly on men producing a massive surplus. And men used to willingly produce that surplus because part of it went to support their own children. Moreover fathers would hope to produce enough to leave a legacy for their children to inherit. Childless men have no such incentives. They see no need to produce a surplus or a legacy, and so no surplus or legacy is produced.

That is the Dirty Little Secret behind civilization. It’s also why civilization as we know it is terminally ill.

As a species, Homo sapiens is both hypersexaul and hypergamous. Popular wisdom likes to point at the hypersexual bonobo chimpanzee as our nearest “cultural” relative among the order of Primates and it’s true we share some behavioral characteristics. However, when the genetics of the situation are examined the picture becomes more nuanced.

I’m sure you’ve all heard of the “Mitochondrial Eve”, the matrilineal most common recent ancestor determined by examining mitochondrial DNA. Because such DNA is passed from mother to child without recombination, we can use it as a clock of sorts. What you may not know that along with the “Mitochondrial Eve”, there is also a “Y-chromosonal Adam.”

Y-chromosome is passed from father to son. It can be used as a clock like mitochondrial DNA. It is also the fastest changing portion of the human genome. More importantly, because it’s passed from father to son, it also can be used to measure a specie’s level of hypergamy. Simply put, the more fathers having sons the more basal lineages you can identify. It’s when these basal lineages are examined that the alleged linkage between our specie’s behavior and bonobo behavior falls apart.

Much like bonobos, humans are hypersexual. Unlike bonobos, however, human males have a poor chance of actually procreating. The bonobo genome has a large number of Y-chromosome basal lineages because large numbers of male get to procreate. The number of such basal lineages in the human genome, however, more closely resembles that of the gorilla genome.

Gorillas are markedly hypergamous. Approximately 20% of male gorillas manage to procreate compared with over 80% of females. Silverback males monopolize procreation with harems of females while blackbacks groom eat, play, and even engage in homosexual behavior. Newly dominant males even practice infanticide to remove their defeated predecessor’s bloodline from their newly won harems.

So, while we humans f~~~ like bonobos, our genome indicates a long history of human female hypergamy like that of gorillas. For most of our specie’s history, human males got to f~~~ but not procreate.

What does all this mean? Read this next sentence and then stop to think for a bit:

Human civilization is the accidental result of cultural “solutions” to female hypergamy.

Controlling female hypergamy, albeit only partially, through means like monogamy, religion, patriarchy, and all the other cultural mechanisms our feminist friends hate so much allowed those societies with such cultural mechanisms to harness the labor, assets, and productivity of men who would normally have been unable to procreate in a our species natural hypergamous society.

Finding a way to let more men have children – or, more accurately, believe they have children – meant that the more men now had “hostages to posterity”. More men now had a reason to care about the future and thus worked for the general good as a way of providing for their progeny’s future – or for the future of what they thought was their progeny. Societies whose cultures provided mechanisms which limited female hypergamy were able to harness the labor, assets, and productivity of previously non-reproducing men and thus out compete those societies which didn’t limit female hypergamy.

The benefits of limiting female hypergamy were profound.

In less than fifty centuries, this happy cultural accident took a nondescript species of hunter-gatherers from primitive stone tools to telescopes finding planets orbiting stars tens of light-years away.

In less than fifty years, this happy cultural accident has been abandoned by the most advanced societies on our planet.

As feminism allows female hypergamy greater and greater rein, more and more men no longer have any compelling reason to support human civilization. More and more men no longer have hostages to posterity. More and more no longer have any real reason to care.

And that’s why civilization as we know it is terminally ill.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

Granted I’m relying on google’s translation here but I find the last pair of lines of the publication particularly interesting

In contrast, childlessness disparities were not reduced in men. In particular, the recent rise in childlessness is very strong among employees, workers and executives.

Not only is there a drop in men having kids but it seems it is pronounced among the productive men of society and those with resources, bet the French are gonna have a fun time with that one.

Seems their policy of f~~~ the father and you’re not even allowed to check if your truly the farther is having an effect. Considering how bad some of the French laws are I’m surprised that there are Frenchmen left willing to look at a woman even.

[Anonymous 11]

sidecar wrote:

The massive, unprecedented, impossible public debt levels we see today are no coincidence.

I have recently read two independent finance articles that estimate unfunded mandates over the next 50-60 years are net present value of 205 and 215 trillion dollars for the United States. The future value of those mandates will be in the low quadrillions if present trends continue. The Federal Reserve, decimation of State’s power over Federal authority and women being given the right to vote are all part of this downward spiral.

“Coincidences never happen unless it’s a coincidence” which are both CPig’s First Laws of Troubleshooting and Dating by the way. Think about the odds. Where would you place your money if you were betting?

There was a logical reason women were originally not given the right to vote. Our feelings about anything just do not matter outside the boundaries of our own skin. I’m sorry to any “special snowflake” lurkers. Your feelings just don’t matter. This is a red pill site. I don’t matter, and you don’t matter. Now, go ponder CPig’s pearl of wisdom offered to you in hope and good faith. Use a tissue for your tears if needed.

Women just can’t seem to get that point about our feelings not mattering. The Western world is being run by women and manginas now. Look around and we can all see the bitter fruits these trees of destruction planted so long ago are now bearing.

Fine jobs as usual Sidecar and OldBill. You both have taught me something new.

[RAT-7Participant 69]

+1

I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of a woman, nor ask a woman to live for mine.

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