Membership Upgrades

[EekParticipant 1162]

I just saw the pop up notification about the impending upgrades, and with this being around my 2 year mark on this site I figured I would throw this out there to remind people that they can directly support the site with a paid upgrade.

With the recent YouTube upheavals it is important to make sure to throw your financial support directly to the things you support.

I don’t see Keymaster and company mentioning this often, it is just something you might scroll past on your profile occasionally.

So if you can afford it, consider signing up.

If you are too broke paying the ex, the lawyers, the state, etc. Then maybe just share your story, and it may bring others in who can help out.

Begathon moment over keep rolling strong brothers.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

link to upgrade:

Upgrade

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Fair enough Bro’
Why haven’t I upgraded yet? Therw is nothing to be ashamed of, actually. I do 75k a year. But I live in Germany, means 2nd highest tax rate in the World at 49.2%. That leaves round about 36k a year in my pocket. Of this I have to pay 12×710 rent (monthly rent is common way here) = 8520, leaving 27k in my pocket. Of these I pay 12 x 1000 for house debt, where the ex lives with our son and her now BF, who happens to be her first husband, too. Leaves 15k. I still use water, electricity and heating, which costs me about 1200 per year. 14k left. Child support is 400 a month, 4800 a year, 9200 left. Divide by 52 and I’m left with 170 per week. Of this I still have to pay of my lawyer, a dentist bill and my public transportation Ticket (I can’t afford a car), so I live on round about 10 per day (clothing, food, drinking, etc.) and I haven’t yet managed to quit smoking, so I have to be pretty tight. I don’t ask for pity or anything. It is my life, resulting from my choices. Keeping in mind social benefit would be nearly twice what I have, feels unfair occasionally, but I will find a way to deal with it. To the still unmarried – you do the math for yourselves, but this is what living looks like, once they put you through divorce courts (with only 1 kiddo attached). You have been warned!

P.S. 75k might not sound that much, but it is quite decent here, as healthcare, pension fund etc. Is already included.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[OdinParticipant 524]

I’m going to upgrade when I get paid soon. I will absolutely support MGTOW, since it saved my f~~~ing life.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

I wanted to try it out here and will likely chip in to buy KM a coffee or two each month. ☺

This place is cool.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

Odin wrote:

I’m going to upgrade when I get paid soon. I will absolutely support MGTOW, since it saved my f~~~ing life.

Me too.
I was going back into the pits of darkness (again) after a break up. The red pill woke me up and MGTOW is like a secret weapon against the c~~~ery and simps.

Limitless tactics to employ against the enemy.
From ghosting to debate smackdowns and mic drop.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

I’ll upgrade eventually. I love this f~~~ing place.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[rorickParticipant 682]

Would be nice if keymaster could setup a donation page where members like me who cannot afford to pay recurring payments for the upgrade, will also get the opportunity to contribute towards MGTOW whenever we get some money.

[Anonymous 0]

Do you have to upgrade each month or are they going to zap my credit card monthly from now on?

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you have to upgrade each month or are they going to zap my credit card monthly from now on?

It is a recurring payment and you get your receipt via email. But I would rather not put it on my tax declaration.

Supporting MGTOW is one of the best investments a man can make. Think of all bulls~~~ you’ll never buy for any c~~~ after you became red pill awakened. Just the fuel costs of “could you take me there and there and to that Chad’s house so I can pick up my stuff…???” by far outweighs a 2 year support payment of this site here…

If KM had all the money I alone spent on “courtship” and “can you do me a favor?” bulls~~~ he would be buying a big data center soon.

All the money spent on c~~~s in this world – one day alone… We could feed and sponsor 10000’s of MGTOW sites…

Since MGTOW, I absolutely stopped doing favors for c~~~s. The realization is that AWALT and that was the most important thing I have learned here.

Of course, in life I went through all of this that I state here and publish my stories about, but still I thought that there might be one woman out there that “is not like that”…

Here, I had “this tooth pulled” (German saying for being CURED)

This site here is “medical grade” and KM’s place is the best mental health agency this earth has to offer.

Sign up to help with KM’s electric and equipment bills.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Muglintar wrote:

P.S. 75k might not sound that much, but it is quite decent here, as healthcare, pension fund etc. Is already included.

In Germany, this is a lot. Our average income is 32k, and that is without any benefits and “before tax”!.

You are the best example why young men lose the incentive to “get a career” just to impress and get pussy…
Whatever they make will be going to the c~~~ anyway. So why study for years, do all the social climbing just to get kicked like a dog.

Yes, c~~~s of the world, you have “overfished” and poisoned the sea.

Too many dead fish for other fish to keep ignoring. We men are now swimming on the surface. No more pussy pass for c~~~s.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[EekParticipant 1162]

rorick wrote:

Would be nice if keymaster could setup a donation page where members like me who cannot afford to pay recurring payments for the upgrade, will also get the opportunity to contribute towards MGTOW whenever we get some money.

Actually a direct paypal donate button would be my preference as well, but I work with what is given.

Mug thanks for sharing.

Similar to what Gargamel pointed out, I think of my contribution as an insurance policy to prevent making a terrible mistake at some point and risking all the equity I have built up so far. If I did go full retard and went down the road to wedded “bliss” I would be gambling thousands of dollars that some woman wouldn’t try to throw me under the bus. In my whole life I have never spent more than $100 inside a casino.

[EekParticipant 1162]

Actually, thinking about it some more, a divorce would be a worse financial disaster for me than if my house completely burned down, fell over onto my car, and I didn’t have insurance for either. I could afford to rebuild without going into debt to anyone but myself in the case of a natural disaster.

[RennieParticipant]

rorick wrote:

Would be nice if keymaster could setup a donation page where members like me who cannot afford to pay recurring payments for the upgrade, will also get the opportunity to contribute towards MGTOW whenever we get some money.

There is a page where you can pay a one time donation. I use that from time to time.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thank you gentleman.

The upgrades started because we’re not in a position to be staffed around the clock. So we link new members (who want to be participants) over to that, to approve themselves if they don’t want to wait for an admin.

Otherwise we’re not pushing upgrades into any faces.

Adding “member tiers” were VERY necessary to stop hotheads from joining and immediately beginning to start littering the forums. Some of you will remember vandalism attempts – which persisted for nearly a YEAR – were out of control and an enormous waste of our time taking away from production.

A new/basic member HAD to be different from an established one.
So it’s more about “permission” than “status”.

For example, when we open up submissions, Ghost and Galt members will be first to be able to add to the site.

It also allows us to give upgraded members some extras we can’t give everyone. “private profiles”… the ability to initiate private messaging . . . . (new members can only read and reply etc. )

Many of you have been very gracious ( and even STUBBORN!! which is very kind of you ) but we are staunchly against the concept of “donations”. We want to provide tangible extras.

We can’t yet mention BIG new thing to be included with a membership yet, but it will be extremely cool. So we’re waiting until THEN to make the option more visible. Other corners of the site need work and we want to do that too – first.

This is still not our full-time gig just yet, and it will take time to get there, but extras and “upgrades” puts the growth of the site more in members hands.

To be clear, upgrading is NOT required for basic forums participation. Those new members may just have to wait a bit.

Enormous thanks for all your well-meaning intentions.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 1]

Gargamel – you always take the time to reply to men and write detailed posts.

Sometimes wondering where you are when you don’t post for a while.

Take it from joller – your absence is always notable.

Best, my friend

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Gargamel – you always take the time to reply to men and write detailed posts.

Sometimes wondering where you are when you don’t post for a while.

Take it from joller – your absence is always notable.

Best my friend

I strongly second that.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

I don’t like recurring charges on my credit card. I’d rather pay for a whole year at once and then manually reup each year thereafter.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I don’t like recurring charges on my credit card. I’d rather pay for a whole year at once and then manually reup each year thereafter.

The reason we don’t do that – and do it monthly – is because:

1. We don’t know what tomorrow will bring. Sometimes a member will offer to do what you suggest . . . . one even offered a large amount for a “lifetime” membership. He’s not even here anymore. Good thing we declined.

2. the $5 price point is almost nothing. 17 cents a day Doesn’t scratch anyone, and if it does, we don’t want them to pay anyway. They have other bills and if it’s not totally transparent to them, they should keep it.

It’s really not about “the money”. It’s an uncomfortable conversation to have already, but it’s even more uncomfortable to say “no” to a generous gesture when all you mean is well.

P.S @YZF-R1 Thank you. You have just been upgraded to Ghost. Let us “pay it forward” instead of you. Make you a deal. If you’re still here next year, we can talk about it then. By that time, we will also have more to offer you.

We’ll be doing this more in the future for others, especially those who make efforts to keep the forums for men only. That means more to the WHOLE community. It’s real value. Better than “money”.

( It’s also why were keeping track of “points” )

A very pleasant day to you. With sincere gratitude.
It’s a pleasure to have you here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

I’m always happy to see my MGTOW.com Ghost bill come each month. It’s a small price to pay to keep those red pills coming.

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