Members question: Help with possible new article

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

I’d love to brainstorm an idea from members.

What typed of general support and direction do you think a new MGTOW would like to have available?

Surviving Divorce?
Female Nature?
Understand and harness the male sex drive?
Breakthrough anger and jealousy?

I am in need of member suggestions. (Yes, I am using member’s assessed feedback to write an article.

Thank you in advance

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

All of the above mentioned points are good, however to me I think the most important concept to grasp for new MGTOWs is that you need to understand it is ok to free yourself, it is ok to not live up to other people or society’s expectations and it is ok to walk away, once you realize that then it would be much easier to survive divorce, understand female nature, control sex drive and anger.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

free yourself, it is ok to not live up to other people or society’s expectations and it is ok to walk away,

I like that. I am rewording it a little?

freeing men from patriarchal, social and family expectations; advancing healthier choices in lifestyle, friends and lovers.
?

[The Laughing ManParticipant 1020]

+1 for Spanks suggestion. The biggest weight that was lifted for me was realizing that simple truth.

Since the matrix has so many parallels here perhaps use neo waking up as a Segway. Most people have seen that movie and it will be easier to make connections based off the familiar.

Overall try explain this isn’t the end, just the start of something greater. Explain the thoughts and feelings that arise from dealing with women are purely hormonal.

Mind over matter.

I thought what I'd do was I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes...or should I?

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

women are purely hormonal.

Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

How about men dont care about females any more and why.

Or maybe men just not caring anymore.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

w about men dont care about females any more and why.

A perfect idea for a new article. Many thanks

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

Tim Patten wrote:

Female Nature?

That´s a good point, really. Though something that has a lot of aspects going along. I´m still in a phase where I ask myself :

How come I swallowed all those lies that I´ve been fed? (Something that can make you doubt yourself a lot)

How do I face questions of friends, in a respectful and elegant manner like: Do you hate women or are you gay?

How do I fill those gaps of emptiness after the realization of how things are, without losing myself?

How do I get women to keep their distance to me? (Without getting rude or turning into an idiot and as a consequence losing male friends)

I know almost all of these questions have been answered right here in this place, thanks to the combined wisdom of this community, but maybe there´s a way to wrap this up and have it in an easy to digest form, that finally leads to the necessary insights and paves the way with less obstacles to master?

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[NerdtasticParticipant 194]

What about why most men aren’t swallowing the red pill after seeing the facts and try to have a relationship anyway.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

ow come I swallowed all those lies that I´ve been fed? (Something that can make you doubt yourself a lot)

How do I face questions of friends, in a respectful and elegant manner like: Do you hate women or are you gay?

Great ideas ! Many thanks

[Anonymous 42]

Tim Patten wrote:

women are purely hormonal.

Great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The ones I know sure are whore-moan-al!

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Considering there are so many different types of Mgtow, it is hard to say. The one thing we all have to remember though is that there is happiness on the other side. Whether it is surviving a divorce, getting past the red pill rage, or learning to ignore societal expectations, there is happiness waiting for us once we overcome those things.

All the topics you listed are good, and they all help a man free himself from blue pill hell.

Looking back in the thread, I’ve noticed my post is just an expansion of Spank’s: not only is it okay to gyow, it is great!

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Tim Patten wrote:

I’d love to brainstorm an idea from members.

What typed of general support and direction do you think a new MGTOW would like to have available?

Surviving Divorce?
Female Nature?
Understand and harness the male sex drive?
Breakthrough anger and jealousy?

I am in need of member suggestions. (Yes, I am using member’s assessed feedback to write an article.
Thank you in advance

Well you have a good start in the list you’ve made. I will re shuffle it a bit importance vise.
Female nature.
Understand and harness the male drive / sort of.
Surviving Divorce.
Breaking anger and jealousy.

These are from me.
Knowing yourself: strengths, weaknesses, and ability to focus.
Following through on any long or short term action.
Stop blaming feminism and understand the core problem gynocentrism.

I think that’s enough from me. There a smarter guys here who can add a lot more.

Zero Tolerance

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Female nature.
Understand and harness the male drive / sort of.
Surviving Divorce.
Breaking anger and jealousy.

These are from me.
Knowing yourself: strengths, weaknesses, and ability to focus.
Following through on any long or short term action.
Stop blaming feminism and understand the core problem gynocentrism.

A great list!!! My article will take some time to ‘attempt’ to share these….. Thank you!

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

Tim Patten wrote:

free yourself, it is ok to not live up to other people or society’s expectations and it is ok to walk away,

I like that. I am rewording it a little?

freeing men from patriarchal, social and family expectations; advancing healthier choices in lifestyle, friends and lovers.
?

Hi bro, sorry for not getting back to you earlier. I blacked out on my couch after 14 hours work (patriarchy i know, :p)… Although I do not necessarily disagree with you, I think MGTOW is much more than just female nature, unfair treatment of men and feminism, although these are the main reasons why most of us decided to go our own way.

It’s like a little boy starts working out everyday after getting beat up thoroughly by the bullies in his class. But the goal is not merely to fight back, the goal is to better yourself and grow stronger and bigger than the problems you face.

Female nature, family life, social expectations and so on are no doubt some of the biggest problems we men face in today’s society, however if we only focus on these symptoms, we will never raise above them. That’s why I think new MGTOWs should learn to truly free themselves, focus on self improvement and over time you will naturally build up this shield which is capable of keeping you away from these problems in the first place.

The end goal is not to fight back bulls~~~, ‘cuz by doing so, you will inevitably get s~~~ on your hands, rather the end goal should be happiness and harness the true inner power within yourself. Each one of us is different and there’s no one solution to make us all happy, but each one of us knows exactly what we need to do in order to make ourselves happier, more satisfied with our lives.

Anyways, these are just my opinion, hope it will help you brainstorm your new article, look forward to reading it.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

If I could only write one article, I’d write one that described what marriage actually is in terms of its financial impact on men. A thorough understanding of all the details of what marriage actually does to a man financially/legally over the course of his life would be enormously useful. The avoidance of marriage seems to be the one thing that all mgtow can agree is the one inexorable part of the definition of mgtow.

There are things I only know from this site, that all men should know before they get married. That a married man will be required to have his wife’s consent for a vasectomy… that a married man will have his social security retirement benefits cut about in half when he gets married (wether he gets divorced or not)… That he may have his firearms confiscated based only on the accusation of domestic violence … that child support payments collected by the state have matching federal (Title 9?) funds added so that judges are financially incentivized to maximally extract resources from men… etc etc etc…

There are many small ways in which the interaction between men and women is unfair and parasitic to men. But most of those are relatively survivable, unless that interaction results in marriage. The number of different mechanisms and the degree to which a marriage license gives a woman and her government backers power to wreck and discard a man’s life is something I rarely see in (thorough) writing outside of this site.

If you want to write an article that will have maximum positive impact on the circumstance of being male today, write that one. Model it on the informed consent papers one is required to sign before going skydiving, or having a surgery, or any other activity where the risks are required to be disclosed and explained prior to the progression of the relationship. To me, there is no other single decision on which so much disingenuous outside influence is brought to bear, in which the stakes are so astronomically high, and for which so much obfuscation of the actual risks occurs, than on a man’s decision to get married.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Like I said before – “Blackmail”. (Emotional, legal, financial, parental,…)
“you do this or else” kind of stuff women LOVE to do

also really liked Brainpilot’s idea on summary of legal implications of a marriage contract. Would be great if a divorce lawyer could consult on it, or a financial – with comments by a financial advisor

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Write a basic easy to read book for men. Cover the basics.

Save men’s lives.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Write a basic easy to read book for men. Cover the basics.

Save men’s lives.

for boys! reach them before they do anything stupid

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 0]

For new MGTOW’s
Better to have an ending with horrors than horrors without ending
Meaning – your old life is over. You are a man and can rebuild. So you got divorce raped, cheated on, and used. It happened. Let it go and use the opportunity to remake yourself the way YOU WANT.

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