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women, who are so wrapped up in the fantasy of romance and the idea of love, have no fukking clue what it is to really love someone.
Can I get an Amen?!
And yet they use “love” as a hammer to drive the nail of what they want.
Wimmin:
“If you loved me you would [do this/say what I want to hear/buy me something].”“I am cheating with this Chad because it’s true love.”
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."women, who are so wrapped up in the fantasy of romance and the idea of love, have no fukking clue what it is to really love someone.
Can I get an Amen?!
And yet they use “love” as a hammer to drive the nail of what they want.
Wimmin:“If you loved me you would [do this/say what I want to hear/buy me something].”
“I am cheating with this Chad because it’s true love.”It’s fukkin’ sick, isn’t it? Women are just sick.
My son loves me. He bought a new starter for my lawnmower and put it on for me. I told him I could put it on myself, but he said, “I’m doing this for you, because you’re my dad and I love you.” When I tried to pay him for the starter he refused to take my money and gave me the same reason.
So, women, as you stated, “If you loved me, you’d do this for me and give me this.” Men, like my son, “I love you so I’m doing this for you and giving you this.”
My son also told me that he enjoys doing things for me because he knows I appreciate it, unlike his mother who expects it.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I’m beginning to hate that word. People don’t even know what love is, especially women and isn’t that the schit about it……women, who are so damned emotional, women, who are infatuated with love stories and Valentines day……..women, who are so wrapped up in the fantasy of romance and the idea of love, have no fukking clue what it is to really love someone. Even if they don’t want to admit it, even if they don’t even realize it, they’re more interested in getting pounded by multiple kocks than they are about love and romance. To them, cheating on their husbands and getting kock pounded is romantic.
The young kids around here are paying attention. They love outing young women on their social media. The boys all talk about mgtow and red-pill daily.
The female teenagers that are completely baked today, will be the legion of hookers in 2030. Selling sex will be legalized, and anyone who thinks a woman should not do that, will be criminalized as practicing hate speech. All child production will be paid services. No more marriages.
Women cheating and bragging about it on social media is already epidemic.
I see no hope for a better world. It will all be about money. Only men will preserve the future.
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
As for the status of MGTOW, it is difficult to make that assumption based on one website or even a few. Many MGTOW are probably unaware of MGTOW and yet have been immersed in the lifestyle for awhile. Also, no one really knows how many MGTOW are out there. I have seen MGTOW videos and groups from different countries like Canada, the UK, Australia, and I recently saw a video about MGTOW in China or Japan, I can not remember whch. I wouild like to see MGTOW everywhere and see it explode into something huge and phenomenal. However, I am not sure if I want to see this because I need validation from other men, or if it is just the satisfaction of watching women realize that they f~~~ed up when they threw us under the bus?
TronI just can’t figure out why MGTOW still isn’t as yet a universal axiom, at least with Western men. It’s like discovering that smoking causes cancer and the majority still hasn’t clued in…
I just can’t figure out why MGTOW still isn’t as yet a universal axiom, at least with Western men. It’s like discovering that smoking causes cancer and the majority still hasn’t clued in…
I’d say it’s because MGTOW has no allies. It’s almost impossible to be neutral about MGTOW, or to be a supporter of MGTOW but not be one yourself. Even biology isn’t an ally of MGTIW.
I know folks don’t like to think of MGTOW as a movement, but if you were to compare it to something like the rise in acceptance of homsexuality, there are some obvious difference. A homosexual doesn’t need to believe that hetero sex is bad for everyone. A hetero person can support homosexuality without being one himself. The growth of homosexual acceptance has made a significant impact on society in general, but not nearly as much as growth/acceptance of MGTOW has and would. It’s not easy to remain indifferent about MGTOW as it will change your life. Another factor is that homosexual acceptance is rather limited, not too many aspects. MGTOW is very broad, covering the nature of marriage, women, fatherhood, and in general how men and women are looked at by society as a whole.
You could also argue that what few allies MGTOW do have are not in full support of MGTOW, which almost hurts MGTOW more than it helps. Certain commedians and personalites, even Trump, will be in support of certain ideals, but not others. That gives the impression that MGTOW go too far, or that there can be some sort of compromise.
a third problem that’s already been hinted at….it’s very easy to walk away from MGTOW. You and almost always rejoin society and act like it never happened, or you’ve found your unicorn or what have you.
Ok. Then do it.
Good question Autolite, great answer Narwhal.
Particularly the evolutionary conditioning in our genes themselves which encourage favoring women over men. Couple that with the smothering lust for sex.
The Blue Pill is SO strong.
It makes you wonder, how are there as many MGTOW as there are! … with these biological precedents that should have us at our knees to women. And there lies the rub.
Modernity: the gradual subtraction of social systems of dependence amongst males and females. At first, it was as innocent as the invention of a washing machine which freed up a few hours a week for women. 150 specific inventions later, women have the entire week to themselves with zero accountability or responsibility socially or legally.
What does Modernity specifically do to the process of male/female courtship? It flat out compromised and outsourced the need for a male in a woman’s life. Some argue that the Men Going Their Own Way have been SENT their own way. But this is only partially true. Because of Sexual Marketplace Value, men become more valuable in their mid to late 30s, and even more so in their 40s and further. Sure, you can argue that men in their twenties are largely “incels” sent their own way, but in 10 years, women will be trying to flush them out of their shells and lock them down in marriage. That is not being sent away, that is being hunted!
So Men are the Prize as Barbarossa said. You were always the prize. The time for distinguishing the REAL MGHOW, from a man more prone to the affections of a woman, is when he turns 35, 36 …. When his SMV is ravenous and she is chomping at the bit to get at him. Will he take the bait? THAT IS WHAT A MGHOW IS, a man who has internalized the truth so well, that he has effectively immunized himself against the Clam Scam.
The time for trial is coming for many of us guys here. But our lingering around you older guys has done much good!
We will survive!It makes you wonder, how are there as many MGTOW as there are!
Because conditions are just that damn bad.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805It makes you wonder, how are there as many MGTOW as there are!
Because conditions are just that damn bad.
Yeah, they are. I’m sure there are countless men going their own way who have never even heard of the acronym MGTOW.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
JustAnotherGuy wrote:
Gravel Pit wrote:
It makes you wonder, how are there as many MGTOW as there are!Because conditions are just that damn bad.
Yeah, they are. I’m sure there are countless men going their own way who have never even heard of the acronym MGTOW.
Its eyebrow raising strange because it shouldnt be this easy to swear off women and just GYOW. JustAnotherGuy is acutely correct, its just that damn bad.
They make it real easy to not want anything to do with them.
They couldnt of planned it any better if they had had a committee 120 years ago. Where a bunch of asshats got together and said hey, guess what, we’re going to slowly implement these ideas like “Female Liberation” and by doing so, turn million year old biological precedents on their face in less than 4 generations. [would of sounded impossible] .. ‘Once we sway popular opinion just a nudge, break-thrus in science combined with new legislation will do the rest. It all started with a Washing Machine, and it ended with the Smart Phone Dating App, but everything in between, from Suffrage to The Pill and Child Support … it was all to undermine million year old instincts to pair up and procreate, whether deliberately or not that is what happened. Now the unthinkable is here. money talks, but bullsh!t walks
I have had a palpable loathing of Dating App Culture for awhile now… but finally, Ive come to realize that the retarded Dating App THOTS (80% of women) are actually a blessing. It makes it that much more easy to stay GHOST and SAFE. Let the guppie blue pillers get rekt by these hoes, I just silently ghost and live in peace.
So, women, as you stated, “If you loved me, you’d do this for me and give me this.” Men, like my son, “I love you so I’m doing this for you and giving you this.”
Great contrast, Hermit. Reminded me of this quote from The Predatory Female (which has become my Bible of late):
“The female never loves anyone but herself. Using sex to lure men into loving her, she can only pretend at loving them back. She feeds them sex, fusses over them, makes them feel loved, but it’s only an act. She uses their love, or infatuation, to manipulate and control until they are incapable of rational thought where she is concerned. This is one of the toughest axioms for men to accept: females flatly don’t care.”
"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."Can I get an Amen?!
And yet they use “love” as a hammer to drive the nail of what they want.
Wimmin:
“If you loved me you would [do this/say what I want to hear/buy me something].”“I am cheating with this Chad because it’s true love.”
AMEN!
Many years ago when I was a naive young man, the first woman I ever got serious with decided to reach beyond her grasp.
We had just traded presents on Christmas Eve and got into yet another fight. She tried the ploy “I don’t think you ever loved me.” I replied “If you can say that, I don’t need to be here.” And I walked out the door. I’d had enough of her foolishness.
Note it was AFTER she got her gifts. She got jewelry and silver. I got a teddy bear.
Later I found out she was involved a few weeks after I walked.Merry Christmas.
Stay Sober Gents.
Avoid the drunken state of “love”.Long Live MGTOW!
Good question Autolite, great answer Narwhal.
Particularly the evolutionary conditioning in our genes themselves which encourage favoring women over men. Couple that with the smothering lust for sex.
The Blue Pill is SO strong.
It makes you wonder, how are there as many MGTOW as there are! … with these biological precedents that should have us at our knees to women. And there lies the rub.
Modernity: the gradual subtraction of social systems of dependence amongst males and females. At first, it was as innocent as the invention of a washing machine which freed up a few hours a week for women. 150 specific inventions later, women have the entire week to themselves with zero accountability or responsibility socially or legally.
What does Modernity specifically do to the process of male/female courtship? It flat out compromised and outsourced the need for a male in a woman’s life. Some argue that the Men Going Their Own Way have been SENT their own way. But this is only partially true. Because of Sexual Marketplace Value, men become more valuable in their mid to late 30s, and even more so in their 40s and further. Sure, you can argue that men in their twenties are largely “incels” sent their own way, but in 10 years, women will be trying to flush them out of their shells and lock them down in marriage. That is not being sent away, that is being hunted!
So Men are the Prize as Barbarossa said. You were always the prize. The time for distinguishing the REAL MGHOW, from a man more prone to the affections of a woman, is when he turns 35, 36 …. When his SMV is ravenous and she is chomping at the bit to get at him. Will he take the bait? THAT IS WHAT A MGHOW IS, a man who has internalized the truth so well, that he has effectively immunized himself against the Clam Scam.
The time for trial is coming for many of us guys here. But our lingering around you older guys has done much good!We will survive!Gravel Pit, er
I mean Grovel Pallette,I can’t find your intro. Can you point me to it…..
I can’t find your intro. Can you point me to it…..
My intro was ruined by Gargamel this time around. He bombarded it with satellite code and cat pictures.
But this isnt the only account Ive had here. I joined when the site first began, under the name Terminal Meme. Then I had another account during that same time called Beware the Lamiae.
Then, in 2015, when Sandman and Stardusk were having their differences (LOL) … Messenger Rising made that over the top rant video against Sandman. And though Im not that big of a Sandman fan, I sort of got under KeyMasters skin by bitching him out about something to do with Sandman. Basically Sandman was being a dick to Keymaster too. KM Banned me…
Two years later, I was finally able get back in. Either he forgave me or stopped giving a sh!t about whatever had happened. Maybe he didnt recognize the IP address or didnt care anyway. Or maybe he was almost done fvcking around here anyway (hence his absence).
My coming back was not planned. I had given up trying to come here, as a few attempts to reconcile with KM through email during that two years were left unanswered. I actually badmouthed the place because honestly, people were bullied here and accused of being women. Then they would ban you… It was total bullsh!t.
The reason I came back, is because in Oct 2017, some of the former crew put up a Thread which I just happen to see which was serendipitous because I was not in the habit of lurking here. I never lurked because I was put off by not being able to comment. The Thread those guys put up two years ago was titled MGTOW Meet Up in Dallas. That is my home city and current residence.
So I quick made a profile and started talking to them to see if we could meet up. Long story short, they were all poosies and were too scared to write on the thread where they were planning to meet.
Anyway, my story is this. I dated a single mom for six months. She miscarried my kid and threw me to the curb. I felt bad and drank alot. I did a lot of drinking back then. Infact, I liked drinking more than women, hence I have a very low count when it comes to having been laid. Ive probably slept with less than 12 girls in my life. All of them, but for maybe 3, were one night stands.
The single mom was the closest I ever came to anything resembling an LTR and that relationsh!t was a total joke by any measure, destined to go south. I got lucky she miscarried. I was emotionally devastated at the time LOL, all I wanted was to be loved. Ahhhh! But I was not done drinking myself to death.
At age 27, I drank myself into a crazy state where I took my own life by way of throat slashing. Nearly died except modern surgery saved me in time. A person had called the ambulance. I lived. I never drank again after that. It was late summer 2013. I also discovered MGTOW at that time. And that is when my Longterm Sobriety and Monk Mode celibacy began, when I studied the Stardusk Compilation and it occurred to me that all women were unloving, treacherous manipulators.
Intros dont matter anymore bro. This website was sued into abandonment over a year ago. Whoever owns it is about to run out of domain rent. Maybe theyll renew it out of nostalgia for what this place once was. I wouldnt be surprised either way. If you have any business with the men here that is unresolved, or there is information in the past threads you want, you better go find it and save it, or ask for email addresses from your friends. The days here are numbered IN MY OPINION. Nothing lasts forever. The duration of KM’s absence this time is cause for concern. Its OVER. We will never stop posting though.
people were bullied here and accused of being women. Then they would ban you… It was total bullsh!t.
That’s the treatment I found when I went over to Going Your Own Way (dot) com – a low-level bullying under the guise of filtering out women and blue-pill infiltrators. Not directed necessarily at me, but just a general observation about the site. There is such a thing as going too far with that effort. I wasn’t paying attention to the drama here because I was in the throes of my Facebook addiction, but if that was going on here I can see why a lot of men jumped ship.
It sucks when you approach an individual or group expecting support only to find yourself on the defensive. That will destroy any community.
I can see why a lot of men jumped ship.
There were always guys jumping ship here. To be fair, many of them didnt have thick skin, but the bullies who berated profiles that they know good and well werent women, that is just fvcked up. It pretty obvious when someone is a girl, 90% of the time she gives herself away because she simply loves attention.
From about the time I was banned (iam not a woman by the way) 2015 through 2017. Apparently there was an era called the Tuna Hunts where they basically had a great time banning the sh!t out of crazy SJW c u n ts that would trickle in, even after the paywall was put up to try and keep them out. I think this is when KM first got sued by some SJW organization, it had to be. And the lawsuit must have dragged out for well over a year or two, resulting in eventually being ordered by a judge to cut the cord and set the dotcom adrift.
You know how sometimes you see people logged in who never participate. I dont know if they are real or what. It may be a fluke code that KM put in to randomly show that people are sometimes here. They never seem to talk. But there are certainly thousands of account holders who never come here but could. I still think there are female account holders that never come here. Some women are much smarter than others. Hell, some of the men who show up are so fvcking weird, they may as well be girls. LOL
I can see why a lot of men jumped ship.
There were always guys jumping ship here. To be fair, many of them didnt have thick skin, but the bullies who berated profiles that they know good and well werent women, that is just fvcked up. It pretty obvious when someone is a girl, 90% of the time she gives herself away because she simply loves attention.
From about the time I was banned (iam not a woman by the way) 2015 through 2017. Apparently there was an era called the Tuna Hunts where they basically had a great time banning the sh!t out of crazy SJW c u n ts that would trickle in, even after the paywall was put up to try and keep them out. I think this is when KM first got sued by some SJW organization, it had to be. And the lawsuit must have dragged out for well over a year or two, resulting in eventually being ordered by a judge to cut the cord and set the dotcom adrift.
You know how sometimes you see people logged in who never participate. I dont know if they are real or what. It may be a fluke code that KM put in to randomly show that people are sometimes here. They never seem to talk. But there are certainly thousands of account holders who never come here but could. I still think there are female account holders that never come here. Some women are much smarter than others. Hell, some of the men who show up are so fvcking weird, they may as well be girls. LOLThere was a time when I was dead-set against turning off comments on any public forum for free-speech reasons. Good moderation, I thought, was the key to keeping the loonies from taking over. Now I see that a situation like what you describe, or like what happens at GYOW, is the natural outcome. Honestly, I like how this site basically runs itself now without a moderator. I think the key is that no new members can join into the conversation. The door is shut. People can peer in but they can’t join. It gives me ideas in case I ever find myself moderating a forum. Not a roadmap mind you, but a new method to ponder. You don’t need vetting if the forum is locked to all but the existing participants! Look how seldom anyone makes non-quality posts! I hope the site survives beyond January even if only on its present form.
The dilemma of internet mods and censoring has been the #1 major issue since American Online chatrooms 20 years ago.
Whether to allow free range or to Mod. There really is no solution.I would be banned daily at any other site on the internet. But the locked out nature of this website is also a failure because there is no fresh blood. Who the hell cares about a forum they cant participate in? Its a lose lose situation at GYOW dotcom and this site too, all the same. The only reason Im here, and not there, is because this website is MUCH BETTER LOOKING! This place was built by a genius with high standards. Its a JOY to troll this place, like frolicking naked in Eden! I lucked out I tell you!
But there is no solution. As soon as you open the doors, Tuna and Gargamels flood in. And if you designate mods, where is the line? What is the punishment? It starts out laxed but ends up Stasi! No one can ever be pleased. Cliques form. The challenges and bullying starts. And the Leader is always betrayed.
I could never be that guy running around naked because I’d be dragging my nuts behind me in the grass. *sigh*
I could never be that guy running around naked because I’d be dragging my nuts behind me in the grass. *sigh*
Should empty them abit more then!
Keep running free range matey. Let your unmentionables air out Matey!
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