Maybe We Should Go To Counseling?

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

I’ve got a good bro who is struggling with a new marriage and his wife is already suggested counseling… I don’t want to advocate typical MGTOW principles such as get the hell out immediately, because I know how much it will cost him financially. I am a MGTOW and not married, thankfully, and understand what he is going through based on the truths and words of other fellow MGTOWs.

A few months ago he landed a good job in Arizona and moved out of California for that job. Now his wife wants to go to counseling because he “works too much” “no time for her” “shes always watching the baby” and “childcare costs too much”….

This is the exact same thing I have read on here…

How do I talk to him in a way to not disrespect his wife, while implementing that this is typical behaviors from a woman these days? He’s 29 and has a 2 year old and another on the way… Wife doesn’t work, she’s in school…

Also, big question, how does marriage and divorce work if you got married in California and divorced in another state, Arizona.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

This marriage is pretty much damned since when women are left alone for long periods of time they tend to go and f~~~ other men especially in a marriage. I believe she will eventually just end up cheating on him but reversing it to make him seen like the bad guy.

As for his wife i don’t know if it is possible without offending his wife to do that. But the only problem offending his wife presents is he might get offended at you and cut you off. So maybe you could just slip in some mgtow materials somehow not overly mgtow to the point of conspiracy but the occasional video.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

I don’t want to advocate typical MGTOW principles such as get the hell out immediately, because I know how much it will cost him financially.

The longer he’s in the more it will cost him in the end.

Now his wife wants to go to counseling because he “works too much” “no time for her” “shes always watching the baby” and “childcare costs too much”….

Princess needs to go talk to some single mothers and learn how much “me time” she’s going to have after she pushes her meal ticket man out of her life.

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

And if he hadn’t taken the job in California, she’d be on his case for not seizing a great opportunity, for not taking risks, for staying in a selfish comfort zone, for not looking to expand his horizons, for not showing the company what he can really offer them…

…and the fact that it would’ve been a lot more money, which they could’ve used for “childcare”. Take your pick.

If you start spending more time at home, you’re constantly in her way and she can never get any time to herself. Not to mention that finances are suddenly running a lot drier, because she always seems to forget that it’s doing those extra hours which accommodates your living. But if you take a higher job to afford the lifestyle that she prefers, you’re a neglectful father and husband.

Could tell him to point that out to her, but I’m not sure what good it would do.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

I don’t want to advocate typical MGTOW principles such as get the hell out immediately….

It’s not a MGTOW principal. It’s just sensible.
But since you said it’s “new” marriage…. he can establish parameters RIGHT NOW.

#1 Absolutely no counseling.

#2 No compromise. If he needs to compromise to make it “work” (or not fail), he’s with the wrong woman.

#3 He “works too much”? Women who complain about that can just f~~~ off. Nobody needs brainwashing sessions because they “work too much”. That’s not a character flaw which needs improvement. And if “day care costs too much” how much does she think “counseling” costs?

Couples need to negotiate what each of the WANT and what each of them are willing to do – before they sign the damn contract.

Be Her Daddy wrote:

because I know how much it will cost him financially

Will cost him more later. Especially in California.

Be Her Daddy wrote:

Wife doesn’t work, she’s in school…

Oh that’s rich. She doesn’t even work but thinks he’s needs counseling because he works too much to pay for her schooling?

Be Her Daddy wrote:

How do I talk to him in a way to not disrespect his wife

From what you describe, it’s more likely his wife is disrespecting HIM.

Be Her Daddy wrote:

Also, big question, how does marriage and divorce work if you got married in California and divorced in another state, Arizona.

That’s a question for an attorney.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Get him out ASAP! The longer be deals with it the more he will get f~~~ed.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Anonymousyam – I did slip in the old “if you get a divorce it will ruin you financially” but he won’t fully understand it until she were to actually divorce him. She has “jokingly” made claims, in front of me, that she would “divorce him and take his children”…. Her and I are no longer Facebook “friends” due to a comment I made about transgender bathrooms and that I do not agree, while considering him, her and their children, because I have no wife or kids and probably will never have a wife or kids because of the current state of marriage in America.

sidecar – You’re completely speaking truths, I understand them. I just don’t want to lose a good buddy because I told the truth that his wife is a complete bitch.

Constantine – I am not sure if it would do him any good at this early stage in his need to realize what MGTOW is about. She is pulling exactly that same junk, “never around enough”, “no alone time”, ……. same stuff I see on here from other MGTOW’s who have been hammered by the long dick of the divorce courts.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Damn do I love having the advice from an expert like Keymaster. Dude is not only correct nearly every time, but it’s hilarious to read the truths he tells.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

You should tell him to get a divorce ASAP. If he doesn’t listen, then you’ve done all you can.

“Marriage counselors” are nothing more than gynocentric f~~~wits. They always take the woman’s side.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Anthony wrote:

“Marriage counselors” are nothing more than gynocentric f~~~wits. They always take the woman’s side.

I told him exactly that. I told him he would get F’d by any “psychologist” MFT counselor. I told him they would side with her and the kids no matter what.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I really hate to do this but this book might help.
https://www.amazon.com/Mars-Women-Venus-Relationships-Communication/dp/0007152590

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KeymasterKeymaster]

RedPillBoner wrote:

The longer be deals with it the more he will get f~~~ed.

In most states, it’s 1 day of alimony for every 1.5 days he’s married. This varies and counts after varying periods of time, like 1 / 3 / 5 years. After 10 years in California, he’s paying for life.

One thing is certain. If my new wife ( who’s schooling I pay for) complained that I “work too much” and recommended counselling…… I would stop paying for her school and EVERYTHING for her and she wouldn’t see me again …. starting RIGHT NOW.

I would call hydro, water and cable and tell them to turn it all off, and tell her I’m taking a 4 week vacation – because I “work too much”. When I return, she can complain right under my sweaty b~~~~.

What am I saying. I wouldn’t MARRY an ungrateful bitch like that.
If she wants “counseling”, she can counsel my taint.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

It’ll only end up worse if he persists in this marriage.

If he’s still unwilling to cut her out, then leave him be; its not your problem.

Maybe when he gets beaten down and gets his ass dragged all the way to court and then back, you might like to wait for him near his doorstep, with a towel and some band-aid.

That is the best thing you can do in my opinion.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

At the end of the day, he’s your friend. He should handle it however he thinks is best of course. But you can bet your ass and the hairs on it if he agrees to go to “counseling” for this s~~~, he will be a lost man. Out of a shell. A bag of s~~~ dust.

And her respect for him will be in the toilet.

She needs to be straightened out and reminded that she is an unemployed STUDENT who eats and drinks from his labour…. and she will never be able to say “you work too hard” or “day care is too expensive” again.

She should be praying he doesn’t think too hard about it.
Because NOTHING is more “expensive” waste of a man’s labour than a WIFE.

If she actually cared about what’s “too expensive”, she wouldn’t have dragged him through a wedding in the first place.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

You guys going over the top, the woman is pregnant. This is normal typical situation. I don’t know her but to think it’s going to get worse? I don’t know.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Crazy Canuck wrote:

You guys going over the top, the woman is pregnant. This is normal typical situation. I don’t know her but to think it’s going to get worse? I don’t know.

I hope this is a joke. If not you are out of your f~~~ing mind.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Like he said.

sidecar wrote:

The longer he’s in the more it will cost him in the end.

I started divorce process against my ex six months after marrying the psycho bitch and never looked back.

Zero Tolerance

[AttonParticipant]

Now his wife wants to go to counseling because he “works too much” “no time for her” “shes always watching the baby” and “childcare costs too much”….

The argument that he works too much is simply invalid, she won’t pick up the slack.
Her crying over the cost of childcare and that she has to watch the kid is moronic. It is her f~~~ing job to watch the kid and the cost of childcare doesn’t effect her. Dumping that bitch early sounds like the best approach.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[experiencedParticipant]

What an effing co-incidence.
Two child support payments and alimony and NOW she turns into mouthy bitch.
She WAS BITCH ALL ALONG, but now she’s got him.
Someone please tell me that she didn’t KNOW this ALL ALONG.

A friend does what’s right for their friend, not what preserves the friendship:
TELL HIM SHE’S A BITCH. It’s like a tennis game, if you don’t tell him, you are not being the friend. If you tell him the truth as diplomatically, empathetically, compassionately as possible WITHOUT WATERING IT DOWN, and he rejects you, then HE is not being the friend. Tell him the truth, years later he will thank you for it.

The victory has already been achieved, here, by you “Be Her Daddy” posting this so ALL can learn from it. Thank You for posting it.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[bob__Participant 946]

Counseling? Yeah right. The purpose of that is to crack down on dissenters and re-educate them before it’s too late. If necessary they’ll “diagnose” somebody with a mental “illness”.

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