Master and PhD degrees, are they worth it?

[Anonymous 1]

So, I’ve been thinking lately on going back to study and get a Master and a PhD degree on computer science, in order to:

a) get better on what I do
b) get more opportunity of jobs
c) Increase income

The thing is, with the world going on the direction it is, I am not sure it is worth it,

I was thinking Computer science in the UBC here in Vancouver, Canada.

Any suggestions? Should I do it? Is the diploma worth it? Or should I keep just focusing on my job?

Your thoughts please.

Thanks in advance 🙂

[RoyDalParticipant]

If you can dig up the salary information for your chosen field, then you could do a calculation.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MehParticipant 77]

To myself it seems too uncertain, which direction the future will take. Since American, Australian and British universities are infested with the whole rape culture bulls~~~, it is too likely to get into problems, even if its only 3 years I would spend there. I know that Germany likes to adopt American “progressiveness”, so I definitely would not want to waste my time at a German university. And the whole student debt is putting me off to. So I am not considering studying for myself. Thats just my opinion though.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I don’t know anything about computer science.

What I do know is that the happiest and most successful men that I have known were in business for themselves. THE most successful man I know has a doctorate in biology and now owns his own independent firm and has government contracts.

The question is, would a Ph. D. put you on the path to either happiness, independence, or wealth? If so the go for it.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

It all depends what the masters or PhD. is in. Computer Science? Yes, I say it is totally worth it. Psychology? Not so much.

For those who want to become professors………I say no, it is not worth it. You have to spend years as an associate professor doing research, getting papers published in well respected journals. If and when you finally get that tenured full time professor position……..yeah life is grand. But to get there? Seems extremely difficult and time consuming. Years of eating mac n’ cheese and having sloppy, rowdy drunks as roommates.

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[MyselfParticipant 353]

For a masters degree I would say it is probably worth it as it usually only takes two years or so to complete. It will open doors for sure. A PhD on the other hand can take much longer. If your primary motivation is a good career and income, then the masters will land you a good position, and the time spent gaining actual industry experience will probably result in a greater net gain than if you spent that time pursuing a PhD.

As I’m sure you know, computer science is essentially a branch of applied mathematics and has almost nothing to so with software engineering. Depending on what you are interested in doing I’d say that observation should guide your decision. If you’re into the heady theoretical stuff, academia is a great place to be. If you’re into building actual systems, get that masters and continue your education by working on commercial projects.

[d-fensParticipant 18]

It depends. Doing your Master in Germany is fine. It is free and you won’t see many women anyways with computer science faculties, so avoiding the nutcases is easy (they usually study s~~~ that the world doesn’t need).

Concerning computer science in the US, i don’t know. I work for a very big 🙂 US based company (not in the US though). Let’s just say they treat their US based work force as a commodity and keep firing them for cheap labor in India. So if you go into generic topics like “Java Programming” you have a loosing ticket. Even if you are good. Specialize on something that cannot be easily outsourced like IT Security. If you are really good you will of course get a good paying job, if you are average you will compete with Indian labor and loose.

In the US it comes down to the fact that one guy can be replaced easily by 5 guys in India or China. At that ratio you need to be really really good. Maybe stay in Germany, companies here can’t fire you on the spot and can’t just bring in foreign labor you have to train to do your job.

[DethklokParticipant 153]

It depends on your field which I am not an expert on.

I came in here to say kudos to you for investigating this before you jump the gun and blame everyone for costs you incur and not getting the benefit you expected. Very unwoman-like of you.

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

I’ve been looking to the computer sciences myself as I’m in school right now. From everything I’ve read so far, I’m going to have to side with Stealthy on this one: It’s about what you can do and your individual initiative. If you have a Master’s but you haven’t been keeping up with developments, you’re going to be obsolete and in the science-based fields, that’s about the worst thing you could be. Additionally, like Stealthy pointed out, if you have the skills and no one else has them, you can call the shots.

Maybe instead of going back to get a Master’s, you could brush up and get some new certifications? That way, you can show you’re investing in being more competent at your job rather than most people who just sit on the laurels of their degree. Just an idea.

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

I wouldn’t recommend it unless your goal is to work for someone else you’re whole life. Spending 4 years at university might cost you between 16-40 thousand dollars adding another 2-4 years and you’re looking at 24-50 thousand dollars. 8 years is basically 80,000 dollars minimum you’ve lost out on plus the experience you could acquire and any more than 4 year is 40,000 dollars and experience.. You’re better off employing yourself. Even if you initially earn less in the long run you reap massive benefits.

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