Maslow’s Heirarchy of Needs is bulls~~~

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

the third level includes love and intimacy. According to Maslow, this needs to be achieved before self esteem and self actualization.

for example, you need love and intimacy before confidence, purpose, creativity……
i think this is bulls~~~. sounds like this guy was a white knight.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

i had to memorize this bulls~~~ chart for college

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Very interesting observation. During my psychiatry studies in medical school I thought Maslow was onto something. However, I have learned after degrading experiences with both dysfunctional family dynamics and relationships that to break away from this bulls~~~ is actually a necessary step towards self esteem. Thanks for this valuable insight.
I’m not sure Maslow was a white knight, but just some lucky bastard from a healthy family and one of the few who had not been screwed over in his relationships. The rest of his pyramid makes sense but this is one part that reads better in reverse.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Like the Japanese say, “there is more than one way to the top of a mountain.”

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

uchibenkei wrote:

Like the Japanese say, “there is more than one way to the top of a mountain.”

I have never seen it more well put. Brilliant observation.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6405]

level 5. basic individual morality
level 4. the need to go my own way
level 3 does not exist in my world
level 2. health, frugality, societal ghosting whenever possible
level 1. breathing, food, water, shelter, clothing, sleep, pinball

since level three does not exist in my world,
gmow combined with basic individual morality as level three = self actualization
thus, my world view pyramid only contains three levels

[OhnoParticipant 668]

what a useless bulls~~~ chart that is.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Here’s a similar pyramid for you

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RoyDalParticipant]

I think Maslow must have meant “agape” love, and not “eros”. Put it that way, and I agree with him.

In any case, I am striving for the top, and I am discarding marriage from the list. Assuming by “family” he meant “marriage.” I don’t think so.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Sounds like some bulls~~~.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

RoyDal wrote:

I think Maslow must have meant “agape” love, and not “eros”. Put it that way, and I agree with him.

This is the way I always took it and most of the professors I talked to about it thought it the same way. So I always thought of level 3 as having a few bros that you know will have your back, and you have theirs. Warrior Brothers so to speak. Taking it that way, Maslows still works in a rough way for me.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Love is chemicals in the brain.

Just Google it.

It’s also something you can be left addicted to.

Like any addiction caffeine nicotine cocaine certain people make a lot of money from it and propaganda to get you addicted is everywhere.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[PhiloParticipant 84]

Maslow fails to mention all of life’s little “wake-up calls” that tend to occur as we make our way up that pyramid. Yes love and intimacy are important but I don’t think it really matters in the end whether we actually find the “true love and intimacy” we think we want or end up getting kicked square in the teeth by it.

Either way it shapes your perspectives in life and allows us to move forward making what use we can of the experience.

This above all: to thine own self be true - William Shakespeare

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

psychology is woo-woo stuff like astrology
pseudo science for the most part
psychology is mp science and it doesn’t deserve the designation of a college-major discipline

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I haven’t thought about it before, but you are correct. Those two tiers are the wrong way around, at least for men.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Put blowjob on each level.

Obviously, fixing a sammich needs to go at the bottom level. A man cannot do anything on an empty stomach.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Russky wrote:

Here’s a similar pyramid for you

Oh crap. Don’t get me started on how much I hate the fda food pyramid. My hate for it burns with the intensity of a thousand feminists’ anger at the sight of a man enjoying himself.

As for the topic. I’ve always agreed that his pyramid is bulls~~~. Self actualization transcends other needs and the love/intimacy thing implies a person needs a lover when it would be better to replace it with a broader requirement of connecting with human beings. How much of each level is necessary also varies from person to person.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

The old FDA food pyramid was put together by the wheat industry so it’s no coincidence that they put wheat products first and relegate meat to only a tiny fraction. Beware the influence of big business on government The truth is we evolved as hunter apes through millions of years of evolution. Wheat products are unnatural to humans and are responsible for the inflammation process which leads to most of our diseases. Funny how the dog food commercials are aware of this with our fellow canine hunters. Our pets eat better than we do.
Fortunately, this food pyramid has been replaced by a better model and is no longer in use.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Budtao wrote:

RoyDal wrote:

I think Maslow must have meant “agape” love, and not “eros”. Put it that way, and I agree with him.

This is the way I always took it and most of the professors I talked to about it thought it the same way. So I always thought of level 3 as having a few bros that you know will have your back, and you have theirs. Warrior Brothers so to speak. Taking it that way, Maslows still works in a rough way for me.

Both you guys are right. Relationships don’t have to mean with a woman or dysfunctional families. The support we here at MGTOW receive from our brothers here also is important on our road to self-actualization. Maslow had it right after all.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

bobphilo wrote:

The old FDA food pyramid was put together by the wheat industry so it’s no coincidence that they put wheat products first and relegate meat to only a tiny fraction. Beware the influence of big business on government The truth is we evolved as hunter apes through millions of years of evolution.

Agreed. In addition to that, everyone’s bodies are different and responsd to diets different. There is no one size fits all.

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