MARRIAGE: THE ULTIMATE SCAM.

[GrumpyParticipant]

If you pictured my avatar doing that emote.
You either have a great sense of humour.
Or are in dire need of some type of therapy.
Or both.

I’m the latter

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

MATRIX wrote:

MARRIAGE IS JAIL.

Matrix,
Great post. When relationships go South, women will often hit you with false charges and try to harm you.

I don’t know a lot about “Christian” women. My mom thought I should “settle down with a nice Christian girl”. What a mistake. I did marry a “Christian” girl.
I worked at least 60 hours/week to pay off her MasterCard expenses. I lived like a farm animal. One day I played golf on a Sunday, and she accused me of being the Antichrist. Of course she had to bang a preacher to prove her devotion.
I don’t date anymore, but if I did, I probably would hang out with a good stripper.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Good ex strippers are hard to find. Very sought after.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

You can still find Tradcons in some non-westernized or less westernized countries, too.

As it goes with Christians, etc., they really have to hold these values dear, rather than just playing along for the sake of their “image”.

[TwistParticipant]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

My mom thought I should “settle down with a nice Christian girl”.

Going to church makes you a Christian like standing in the garage makes you a car.

[TwistParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Good ex strippers are hard to find. Very sought after.

Oh, how I have always wondered…

Do strippers really love me, or do they just want my $$$?

Now don’t spoil it for me.

[Anonymous 3]

Twist wrote:

Do strippers really love me, or do they just want my $$$?

Of course they love you, just like any other woman would…
And they would not care about $$$, no women does.

/SARC

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

X strippers want serious cash flow and no sense of limitations. They are very independent women. But can be very fun.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3763]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Also appreciating how troll/fem free this sites been for a long time. I know we havent got new folks in awhile but it sure is good to have a solid core of guys discussing stuff without bullsh1t drama going on.

No kidding. This feels like the last/best bastion of free thought/speech on the internet. Thanks to you all for this.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

MATRIX wrote:

MARRIAGE IS JAIL.

Matrix,Great post. When relationships go South, women will often hit you with false charges and try to harm you.
I don’t know a lot about “Christian” women. My mom thought I should “settle down with a nice Christian girl”. What a mistake. I did marry a “Christian” girl.I worked at least 60 hours/week to pay off her MasterCard expenses. I lived like a farm animal. One day I played golf on a Sunday, and she accused me of being the Antichrist. Of course she had to bang a preacher to prove her devotion.I don’t date anymore, but if I did, I probably would hang out with a good stripper.

The police, and her attorneys, all tell her and encourage her to file false charges in order for them to “help” her, ie screw the man over. No actual evidence is required.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Twist wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Good ex strippers are hard to find. Very sought after.

Oh, how I have always wondered…
Do strippers really love me, or do they just want my $$$?
Now don’t spoil it for me.

Their rationalization hamster allows them to say both without inner conflict.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Sky-O wrote:

Secret Agent MGTOW
I’ll post her 200 lies within a 52 day period of time in the next few days but PM messaging isn’t working for the forums right now.
I tried messaging iMickey503 about me rolling down to Portland when I am in Seattle in December and messaging isn’t working.
(Also: Sidenote – when I wrote down her top 200 lies on 200 index cards, I included all lies, not just the ones she told me. Like, for example, when her husband texted her one day after we finished a 3 hour fck fest, she texted him back that she was having lunch with her mom. I was right there – so I considered that a lie although not directly to me. – I realized that I needed to get out of that situation when I began assigning a rating system to her lies that I wrote on the index cards. Like, #01 – 04 based on seriousness and level of the lie. And used a yellow highlighter to indicate if a specific lie was to cover up a previous lie or lies. She eventually just started lying about everything. Habitually and pathologically. It was insane.)

iMickey503 @… Um… G UUu OOO GGGGUU LLLL aahhhh!
On EBAY..
On Yahoo.
On Outlook.
On MSN.
On TWITER.
ON Minds
On GAB.ai

I even have a CELL PHONE! And.. I never USE the damn thing. I did use it today to call the Auto Sports shop so I could get an alignment of my PT cruiser on Monday.

I will see if I’m around man. I got TO get on a new Job and do SO MUCH OTHER stuff.

If you catch me in November? K1 GO CARTS! I’ll buy the first round!

I had a Buddy that moved up to Seattle my mom used to date. He goes by SkyDiveSam. Man, he had a OlD video of him just PLOWING into the ground! Really big Audio guy! Does the Best home remodel stuff out there!

I trusted the BRIT, so Colin knows my Number. Reach out to him if you want.

Weird man. I don’t know how to hang out with people anymore… Its more to protect people I know. I stand out like a sore thumb..

TOday for instance.. I spent so much time working on the PT, the Lawn needed to be mowed, so did that.. THEN… it got dark. SO…

Here I was with a Back Pack Blower, An LED scrolling that that says MGTOW.com GO YOUR OWN WAY and a LED face mask.. Cuz I could not find my High Visibility Jacket.. LOL.. I even Got my Ugly Sweater on today!

Man the Weather has been nice in PDX for the last few days..

Anyways….

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About the Church… I hate the Church. AlL of them. Minus Church Militant. I respect that catholic dude. Its sad but I wish they would just tell the f~~~ing truth. God is not more powerful then the state. And be done with it.

I really had faith man. I really did believe that God was there. I went to a Christian catholic Day care preschool. And the thing was, I don’t remember much religion. Just nice Fat women. Even at a young age, I wondered how my Preschool teachers but was imprinted upside down on the slanted ceiling. It took me YEARS to find out that brown spot was a water stain. Not an imprint of her but on the ceiling. But hey, I was like 5 so..

But I loved god man. But all through these years, I realized that it was just a lie for me. The whole idea that GOD would win out over evil? Yea, that one was a hard one to swallow.

I had chaplins tell my ex-wife to straighten up. But it did not do s~~~.

I tried the religious thing, but it was all a Gynoentic lie. F~~~ it all man. Its bulls~~~. If you want to look closer at it, Most of the catholics do just what the Jews do. Get into law. When they controlled the house, they had power. But no longer.

Sad as it is? The church was just silent through it all. And no wonder churches have so little attendance today. They have ZERO POWER today.

You are better knowing a judge or politician then knowing any Deacon or Pastor.

I mean I used to believe that if you prayed, god would indeed make it happen. Or at LEAST keep you safe. In fact, I just had such good luck in life, I thought it was true. Even despite all the crap I had gone through as a kid. But it was not the church that made my life better. It was the people around me. You know.. All the “BAD PEOPLE”.. Like Gay people. Remember that noise? What a CROCK OF S~~~! If it was not for so many Gay men in my life growing up, I would NEVER be the person I was (Blue pilled) today or got the guidance and help to make me who I am. And NO. I NEVER HAD to do any FAVORS.. LOL.

All that Jazz and one day, I just hatched it out to the Golden RUle.

One day I Figured… Well. Screw God. If he wants to send me to hell for Not believing in him, and being a good person? Then f~~~ that GUY! I don’t need to be REWARDED for being a good person with a ticket of an afterlife.

Then one day, I saw Dogs in a Bible story book. And then I asked if Dogs go Heaven. The lady said no. WELL F~~~ THAT!

In fact, for many years, I decided not to get a pet since if it died, I would not get to see my Dog again.. It just kind of stuck with me.

Thing is, I get why some people say that Religion is child abuse. It makes much more sense when you understand what kind of mind f~~~ it really is. Not everyone is George Carlin smart after all.

In fact, the marriage part always just sailed past me. See, there were Magazines talking about how you should have sex with your partner before you marry them. But wait.. Everything in religion said no. In fact, I really was ready to wait till marriage. This Bulls~~~ that GIRLS don’t want to f~~~? BUULS~~~!!!

Nice MY ASS! My First Blow job was when I was I think… 9 or 10 with the next door neighbor. It is then When I learned… WHITE GIRLS LOVE TO PLAY HOUSE! I never got how someone that young knew about the sex part of house… But… 🙂 Questions I never really bothered asking till now.

So really… this IDEA of being a VIRGIN? Yea.. Tell me another one! Bottom line. Marriage is the BIGGEST f~~~ing scam in the world. There is NOTHING in it for the MAN at all. There is no Security, no help no nothing. All of it is better paying someone else to do it.

And the best part? If you are not married, you get to get away and have that trip any time you want. Meet a new girl in a city or club or at a jobsite? Go for it! You will be gone next week!

You want to move for a better job or something new? YOU CAN!

You want to be in a band and screw being responsible for anyone else? You can do that!

Like you guys said. The GOVERNMENT was not there to give you a wife. And like it is said, if you needed a wife, the ARMY would have ISSUED YOU ONE.

What is the POINT of even bothering to get married if women don’t enjoy being women anymore? They enjoy working for other men NOT YOU. They enjoy accolades for abusing their men from the hive and others.. So WHY oh WHY do you want to put yourself there?

It is a FACT that ALL WOMEN CHEAT. In fact, Married women have more sex partners it seems then when they are single since a man can just get up and go if they found out. If she is married she has a free pass to do whatever she wants and gets rewarded for a divorce.

So f~~~ all that. It time MEN know that MARRIAGE means just a state certified license for her to become a s~~~y person.

And Realations~~~s? Are you smoking? F~~~ that!

WOMEN PREFER to have men like MEN prefer to have a tool box worth of tools for the jobs they need to do. Women use men as tools. If she needs a plumber, she will have f~~~ buddy tool #3. If she needs her Computer Fixed? In comes F~~~ buddy beta bux Tool #2

Once you understand and see this> (Cuz for some reason most men are BLIND TO THIS even if they PARTICIPATE… ) It all becomes clear.

I know.. It sounds so harsh when I speak about it. But this is just how women are. When she says She loves you, she LOVES what you DO FOR HER. That is IT.

Look, I understand how Beta Men want to defend women. All they are doing is defending their pussy supply. I respect that.

But if that’s your Card, then fine. So as a MGTOW, you should know without a doubt that these SIMPS will destory you just for the chance to get their dick wet or a “THANK YOU from M’Lady!”

This is why I don’t just see it as just women. Its men that make this happen. Just like The Orion Slave girls. Who is the slave?

WOMEN are not VICTIMS. They are and have always been working for someone else. And that sure as hell is not you. Just be clear on that.

Lastly, all this Crap about saving culture kids and the future.. How the HELL is that possible to have any stability when the state itself is there to make it unstable at just a glance? Even a 3rd party phone call. YOU as a MAN are not safe.

Even if you have Children that are NOT ATTACHED to ANY MOTHER… The state is more then ready to pounce on that at any time with just a single call from ANYONE! It can be a jelly bitch Neighbor. A school staff person that you refused to accept her advances. A Nanny that wants more then to just be a nanny etc.

I’m not kidding about this problem we have here in the States or in the West in general. If its bad enough that Lawyers themselves get f~~~ed over? How the HELL are YOU going to make it? Not Everyone is DDJ after all. 🙂 And moreover?

How the HELL are you going to raise a Family when each day the kids go to school being raised in a climate of FEAR? These young boys are being told each day to SIt still. Stop moving. Pay attention to women. Never talk back. Never speak up. You think this Autism thing is just chemicals?

When you put Males in a Co-ed schooling, you are throwing in all sorts of problems. Those women are not helping your young boys. They are treating them like Cattle. There is a DAMN good reason why kids that DO NOT go to publick school actually end up in better jobs and go to Harvard or Ivy league schools.

And if you are DUMB enough to put your kids in any kind of Church or SUnday school? You got to be the DUMBEST DAD in the world.

Its this place that most of their sexual training happens. Not only that, but the amount of push for men to take on these sluts is crazy! And the CHURCH is all to happy to make sure they get their moneys worth from these women. They are not looking to serve god, but the golden Vagina state funded paycheck.

If church was such a good thing? People would go every Sunday in DROVES. THEY DO NOT. There is a DAMN good reason for this.

Like it or not, men and women’s needs are the same. But but what they want is different and will always be that. So what on earth are you going to get from Marriage?

And the Church talks about keeping Marriage sacred and only MAN and WOMAN.. Wait.. Where the F~~~ were they when the state made no fault divorce, or when a woman broke her vows or a Cuck did? That church was DEAD SILENT! If they can’t handle CPS? If they work hand in Hand with making sure drug addicts get their fix so they get money to feed and take care of them? WHO THE F~~~ IS THE CHURCH WORKING FOR? Not you my brother!

And BLACK churches. OMG! WHAT A LOAD OF S~~~!!! Send all these good men to be Slaves and PLOW HORSES just like they were back in the 1800’s They keep pushing these men to be Pillars of the community. But really? WHO IS GETTING THE BENEFIT? Where is this so called church when these men are being kicked out of their homes and f~~~ed over with no LUBE?

Oh and STILL happy as hell to support the C~~~s of women in their church all shaming their men while the women sit their and point fingers at them. Telling them to be more and more slaves.

YOU my brother are a BUSINESS. THAT IS ALL YOU ARE TO THEIR GOD.

If god is not good enough to protect you from a Hit and run and cover your damages from a flood? What good is god?

So ask yourself? Where is god intervening in your marriage? And where is god when women need help to stay faithful and actually find love in their husbands?

And all this Temptation BS! If he just forgives everyone? Why bother? If their are no penalties, then f~~~ it! This crap about being judged, but just ask for forgiveness and all is well?

Dark Matter talks about this all the time. But even HE wont deal with they Gynocentrism issue. So Whatever..

The real dope is? If you just follow the f~~~ until its sunday then go to the doctor on Monday? You will live a better life. Sure. You may end up dead in a shed freezing to death, but f~~~ it. Get married, lose all your s~~~, and die a drug addict.

You can drink and DRINK and it won’t do s~~~ for you. All the problems are all going to be there on MONDAY.

If you are LONELY ALONE? Just wait till you GET A WOMAN! Alone? You have no idea what that feels like until you have been in a relationship with a women and get married. Or go “Steady”.

That love you feel? That cuz you feel sorry for the bitch.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Not all blue pillers fall for the marriage scam:

A blue pill buddy called me tonight and his prescious little pumpkin is about to hit the wall and after being with him for the last EIGHT years, she is now at this point pressuring him to get married.

(After she kept her options open for a better deal for the last eight years)

And he told me he is not going to do it.

He even listed the reasons why:

01: He has a house in another state that is paid off that he rents out and they both own a house (as not being married) in this state and he is art enough to know that in a divorce, she would roll with one house and he would get the other. The problem is, he owned and paid off his other house, long before he met her. And he knows she calculates that.

02: Loss of retirement account money (IRA and 401k) – He has over $200k in retirement accounts. She has about $14k

03: Reallocation of future Social Security money if they are married more than ten years. He has paid in based on an income of $90-110k a year whereas she has paid in based on about $35-40k a year.

04: He is aware of a trust fund her father left her with over $600k in it – But in divorces, trust fund money is not considered a spouses income or an asset since it is still legally owned by the trust. So he would get burned with having to pay spousal support / alimony.

His pumpkin has as a form of punishment, cut off all sex with him. And he doesn’t care since he has been banging her for over eight years and during her peak SMV level.

He is planning an extraction at some point.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3763]

^^ It almost sounds like it’s too late.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

SpiderHerder wrote:

^^ It almost sounds like it’s too late.

It’s never too late.

I had to get rid of a pumpkin once that was living at my house.

I turned my own water off (put a lock on the meter under my front lawn) and told her I couldn’t afford the water bill.

Called the power company and had then turn off my power a week later. (told pumpkin I couldn’t afford the power bill)

Mentioned that I lost my job.

Dumped a five gallon bucket of coins I had in my garage on my living room floor and was putting them into coin rolls when she got home.

Nothing in the refrigerator except a case of PBR

Had a buddy that worked at a law firm type up foreclosure related documents with my actual lender on them. Then tapped then to my front door.

Left my Jeep at my cousin’s house 15 minutes from mine. They told her that it got towed away by the bank. (lol, it was paid for already)

Then, put my guitar collection (that included an $1,800 Jackson custom-V and a $1,500 ESP, along with my amp heads and cabinets: Mesa, Marshall and Line6) in a storage unit and told her I had to pawn it all.

Followed by buying $60 worth of meth (that I would never do) from my cousin’s drug dealer and leaving it on my kitchen counter.

SHE ROLLED OUT ASAP

You just need to harness the way that they think – Then create a worse case scenario that guarantees they are going to bail out.

It’s like. . .

If you stop feeding a stray cat, it won’t stick around very long.

On a sidenote: It was around October of the year that I did all of that. And ironically, my pumpkin had carved a pumpkin towards the end of my orchestrated collapse.

In order to maximize my world imploding, I actually threw the pumpkin into the street in front of my house one night and it impacted and broke apart.

I’ll never forget the morning my pumpkin bailed out (and said ‘I just can’t do this anymore’) – A squirrel had been feasting on the pumpkin that broke apart in the street when a car going above the speed limit shot down the street and the squirrel was so occupied with the pumpkin, it wasn’t aware and got smashed by a tire on the car.

Casualties of war. . .

[Gravel PitParticipant]

That was beautiful. GREAT morning read.

First, I was proud that the 8 year blue pill guy did not fall prey to her scam.

And Sky Os vivid account of portraying poverty is Oscar Worthy.

excellent!

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Gravel Pit wrote:

And Sky Os vivid account of portraying poverty is Oscar Worthy.
excellent!

The night I staged a meltdown and launched the pumpkin into the street was epic.

It added maximum meltdown effect to the situation.

When you need them to roll out, just crash & burn accordingly.

They always have a beta back-up ready to get on board the crazy train.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Its laudable, the depths of a depravity a woman will suffer to get at the object of her desire! Be it a Man, a Loan or percieved future value of some kind…

No self abasement or embarassment is too much. Of course, no moral line is too far. Even the laws of physics and the Sun rising can be challenged.

She pursues … sort of like that horror movie It Follows where the evil alien spirit thing follows… just walking until it reaches its target. It never stops.

I have seen this a lot lately … a certain woman who wont stop trying despite the innumerable examples that what she is after isnt possible or reasonable or even desirable…yet she continues

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Sky-O wrote:

It’s never too late.

I had to get rid of a pumpkin once that was living at my house.

Sky-O,

Very creative. I’m going to remember this. It is a lot easier getting a woman into your house than it is to expunge her greedy butt.

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