Marriage Collapse: White & Black

[Anonymous 6]

I got this from UrbanCure.com

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A new report from the Pew Research Center brings the latest update on the deteriorating state of traditional marriage in America.

And as sobering as is the picture for the nation as a whole, the situation for black America is even more disturbing.

Fifty percent of American adults over 18 are married today, down 32 percent from 72 percent in 1960.

Among black Americans, just 30 percent of adults over 18 are married today, down 31 percent from 1960.

Fairly obvious questions emerge: Does it matter that the incidence of traditional married households is declining? Why is this happening and why is this trend so much more pronounced among blacks? Are there remedial actions that can be taken from the point of view of government and public policy to strengthen marriage and the American family?

Regarding the first question, it matters a lot. To those of us who still have a traditional moral compass, it is hurtful, sad and ominous that increasing numbers of young Americans do not understand the unique importance of holy matrimony.

But moving away from sentiment, there is plenty of modern research that shows that individuals who are married are wealthier, healthier and happier.

Moreover, we now see a disproportionate impact of marriage on men.

Recent research published by the American Enterprise Institute, authored by W. Bradford Wilcox of the University of Virginia and Robert Lerman of American University, points to married men earning at least $15,900 more annually than single men. For black men, this “marriage premium” is $12,500.

Why is marriage in decline?

At first glance, it is tempting to associate this with the decline of religion and traditional religious values.

It takes great personal fortitude for a young person to turn away from the temptations of promiscuity and to take on the responsibility and commitment of marriage and family. These demands are so far out of the natural order that it is hard to fathom handling them without religion and faith.

But what is happening with blacks?

By common measures, blacks are the most religiously engaged community in America.

According to a 2009 Pew report, 79 percent of blacks said religion plays a “very important” place in their lives compared to 56 percent of all Americans.

Fifty-three percent of blacks reported, in the same study, attending church at least once per week, compared to the national average of 39 percent.

So if religious fervor among blacks is far above the national average, why is the pace of marriage deterioration among blacks the worst in the country?

We get one hint in the new Pew report. Forty-eight percent of nonwhites, compared with 33 percent of whites, indicate they want to get married but say financial instability is the main reason that they have not.

Why are blacks, on average, decidedly more financially unstable? One factor, which must be taken into account, is the disproportionate impact of the welfare state following the civil rights movement. Major welfare programs established in the late 1960s, which required recipients to be unmarried to qualify, followed shortly thereafter by the legalization of abortion in 1973, had a devastating effect on the black family.

Data we have today should provoke a sense of urgency to focus policy on reversing the damage done by years of programs that have hurt the very low-income communities they were supposed to help. We need policies that protect life, and encourage marriage, ownership and individual responsibility.

Stop taxpayer funds going to Planned Parenthood, allow low-income Americans to invest their payroll tax in a personal retirement account that allows wealth accumulation, repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and other laws that limit the employability of low-wage workers, and give states block grants to control anti-poverty programs that open the door to creativity and flexibility.

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This still does not go into detail about the nature of the people in the West. Men are opting out and women, due to feminism, are waiting till late in life to try and start families. All of which causes a drop in birth rates and marriage rates. Time will tell if the ship will turn course, but i wouldn’t count on it. The cat has been let out of the bag now.

Thoughts??

[Anonymous 42]

I’m willing to pay the price for being single and sovereign!

Are they?

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

MGTOW can save you a fortune on divorce proceedings!

Hey you lawyers and judges that lined your pockets for decades; DOES IT HURT?

GOOD!

F~~~ YOU!

[Anonymous 2]

Only when men have a legal stake in their children finances and property will things turn around. Maybe! These laws have to be in place not fought for during each and every divorce, marriage! No benefits for a man to even engage with a female! When they really start losing out will they bitterly change these bulls~~~ laws. It would take years before they will. Cupcakes and princesses won’t willingly give up freebies!

[DarkThunder30Participant 201]

Because Women are stupid and bad at picking men by the time she gives a good man a chance she has three kids and has been banged by at least 20 Chads.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

By most accounts, I’m one of the more ‘eligible’ bachelors in my town. Yet, I’m single.

Why is that?

Journalists and researchers and other talking heads have been explaining to me why I am single for decades now. Not one of them has ever asked me. And not one of them has ever reported in any article I have seen that marriage is a giant fraud perpetrated against men. It is only a formality that women have to go through in order to take money from men. It guarantees NOTHING from women in exchange for what it costs a man. I have seen just about every other possible explanation that can be dreamed up, but not this one.

Has ANYONE here ever been asked by a journalist or researcher of any kind why it is that you are single?

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Well, let’s do the math shall we? And I will use their numbers.

15900 * 50 years in the work force = about 800K non-marriage deficit.
I rounded everything UP.
Now, let’s subtract the cost per the average 2 kids.
250K * 2 = 500K

Now, suburban mansion vs small man house or condo.
800K – 250K = 550K

Also, extra car for the wife. -40K

Wedding, roughly 50K

Unwanted vacations, 50 years * 10K = 500K

I will leave out gifts, restaurants, shoes, The Ring, Counseling fees, Lawyer fees, and other s~~~ expenses.

Now, let’s add it all up, shall we?

500K kids
550K biggger house
40K car
50K wedding
500K unwanted vacations

Equals 1.64 MILLION

divided by the 50 years, we get, the REAL “marriage premium” in a very conservative estimate, of:

-$16,000

MINUS you Motherf~~~ers who wrote article. Minus, its a f~~~ing “marriage deficit”.
And that’s only the financial part. Add to that all the emotional and psychological cost, and, in 50 percent of cases, the f~~~ing divorce cost.

Now, take your f~~~ing article AND your marriage contracts, roll them up and SHOVE them up your stinky trad con ASS!

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I never read anything about sluts.
Divorce rape.

This is PC bulls~~~.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Carnage wrote:

I never read anything about sluts.
Divorce rape.

This is PC bulls~~~.

Haha dead on man. I’m never marrying someone that has already been around the block, which at my age(early 30s) is pretty much all of them. They hit the wall then want to settle down…no thanks.

The divorce rape is just the icing on the cake. I wouldn’t give a hot young virgin the rights to claim half or more of my property and future income…why would I give that right to a post wall slut?

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Thoughts??

Just the usual collection of tradcon excuses, evasions, lies, and willful blindness.

Yes, LBJ’s Great Society programs have had a disproportionate and negative effect on African-Americans. The Moynihan Report compiled in 1965 by the Department of Labor correctly predicted every negative impact that welfare, Section 8, AFDC, EBT, and other social programs would have not only on African-Americans but on society as a whole. It was denounced as “racist” and then studiously ignored.

However, simply “tweaking” social safety net programs won’t bring back marriage for any socioeconomic group.

The reason the remedies which tradcons routinely suggest all fail under scrutiny is that tradcons deliberately choose to ignore the facts of the situation. They trot out the long refuted claims about the benefits of marriage to men while choosing to ignore the very real dangers of marriage to men.

The largest fact which tradcons deliberately choose to ignore is the incredible gynocentric biases under which divorce and family courts currently operate. Men have no chance to receive anything even remotely resembling justice and are routinely destroyed financially, emotionally, professionally, and psychologically by the process. To paraphrase Aries Spears, men aren’t avoiding the questionable benefits of marriage as much as they are avoiding the very real calamities of divorce.

Tradcons cannot or will not recognize that however. The fact that women choose to divorce because they are amply rewarded to do so runs so counter to tradcon fantasies that they seemingly cannot or will not comprehend the reality of the situation.

No amount of policy changes or government programs meant to encourage marriage can or will work without fundamental changes to current divorce and child custody laws. Until tradcons recognize that fact, they’re lying to themselves and to us.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[AttonParticipant]

So far from the point.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[WinterhandParticipant 53]

It’s like all the “where have all the good men gone” articles … theses writers all seem to inhabit the same huge echo chamber where they just keep on repeating the same tired excuses but never asking the people involved.

Divorce rape, Hypergamy, Gynocentrism the answers are staring them in the face but they refuse to see or hear it.

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