Marketing For My MGTOW Business

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

Gentlemen and Scoundrels,

I come to you as the need is pressing for ourselves and our brethren. They are behind enemy lines and may not know how to navigate the minefield.

I’ve started a consultant project that is very hush-hush (I don’t even have my name or phone number on my business cards, only email)

My next move is getting the cards in the hands of those that need it most. My thoughts on target market is:

1. Males 18-50 in white collar jobs.
2. Whites are the most hated, so my focus is on them, but still includes any who are more likely to be attacked by those who oppose MGTOW and men.

With that said, I need any and all feedback to forward the fight.

Regards,
Kimmuriel

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

MGTOW middle man? Just give them the 5 letters already

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

I hear you, but I’d like to help them in real time and point them to sources that directly pertain to their situation. I think it’s more potent to do it face to face, especially in this day and age.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[Anonymous 18]

Kimmuriel wrote:

I hear you, but I’d like to help them in real time and point them to sources that directly pertain to their situation.

Man I am not trying to discourage you or criticize here, but men who need mgtow the most know it deep within something is seriously wrong with their present circumstances.

From personal experience and as @batman mentioned, leave a man with the 5-letter alone and he will go through the epiphany of realizing the truth.

Besides you do not want to be the face that men associate with red pill rage. You are a friend yet the blue pill is deeply ingrained and snapping out of it is an internal conflict- you do not want to be in crosshairs.

Regardless I hope whatever you are seeking works out. But mgtow is best suited for online/anonymous discussions – we can speak freely, throw ideas out there for others to relate/object to.

It won’t have the same appeal from men helping other men in real life.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

@iLearn This makes too much sense to me. However I’ve always been the fall guy or the one that does the dirty work. I’ve been “poisoning the well” for ages and I see it as a public service and sadistic fun to give people bitter pills. This is an avenue to channel my more “dark” impulses into a constructive avenue.

Now if it only fizzles down to only email-exchange I can deal with that. Email conversation may be the safest and best way to lead them out of blue-pill hell.

From anyone and everyone, more critiques and feedback are desired.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[TuneoutParticipant]

When you say business that means you intend to profit from it so I’m wondering where the revenue will come from.

Handing out business cards is more like a public service
unless you plan on charging consulting fees or make revenue via ads on your website.

I agree with iLearn that MGTOW is best left to anonymous online discussions where men can speak freely and you don’t have to publicly expose yourself,unless thats your intention to become the face of MGTOW.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

Tuneout wrote:

When you say business that means you intend to profit from it so I’m wondering where the revenue will come from.

Handing out business cards is more like a public service
unless you plan on charging consulting fees or make revenue via ads on your website.

I agree with iLearn that MGTOW is best left to anonymous online discussions where men can speak freely and you don’t have to publicly expose yourself,unless thats your intention to become the face of MGTOW.

The bold. I agree that it’s dangerous to do so and no I don’t wanna be the face or even poster-child for MGTOW. What makes us so effective is that we are without form and it’s like trying to capture smoke when they attack us.

It’s just that as I’ve said before, people naturally listen to me and seek my guidance on a frequent basis, even when I was 7yrs old. Since I’ve been routinely handed the deciding power for many people (my own parents and peers) I figured I’d take my knack and turn it into a tool for MGTOW.

Now the danger to my person is none of my concern, but, if it is too risky for the MGTOW movement, then I’ll abstain.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[<<>>Participant 435]

1. Go to a natural health foods store and procure several empty red pill gel caps.
2. Print out the ANOM/MGTOW email address several times with the smallest font possible but of course keep it legible.
3. Using an Exacto knife cut aforementioned tiny printed addresses and load them into the capsules.
4. Procure a medium sized bottle of your preferred pain- killer empty its contents.
5. Fill the bottle with water (to weigh it down) and replace cap then soak in hot soapy water for ten minutes.
6. Remove and disregard label and replace with sticker paper printed label or make your own with sharpie boldly displaying the acronym of our endeavor, cover with clear packing tape.
7. Discreetly distribute pills to the needy, whether looked at with disdain, guffaw, or desperate curiosity simply state in an even and confident tone “do not despair look inside” if/when questioned again only repeat “look inside”

Kimmuriel wrote:

I need any and all feedback to forward the fight.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

I just wonder often why my recurring theme is that wherever i go to escape from hive or from majority, either be it physical location, either internet place, either type of activity, i soon realize that it gets invaded by females, or someone tries to make business out of the place.

Your idea reminds me of what mormons are doing but i will speak just for myself, i came here to find place that is not exposed to mainstream, but it is just starting to get unnerving here with the amount of media attention or ideas about promotion.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[OldBillParticipant]

Kimmuriel wrote:

… I don’t wanna be the face or even poster-child for MGTOW.[/quote

Then don’t start a “business”.

[quote]It’s just that as I’ve said before, people naturally listen to me and seek my guidance on a frequent basis

Then give advice and offer guidance. As a somewhat successful middle aged guy I’m asked for advice all the time and I freely give it.

Once you start charging simpletons for MGTOW life coaching services, you no longer giving advice or helping.

… if it is too risky for the MGTOW movement, then I’ll abstain.

It is too risky because it monetizes MGTOW. Someone is going to try and make money off the philosophy sooner or later. In fact, it’s already happening on a small scale. Look at Tim Patten, for example, with his “articles” pieced together from members’ posts here and his self-published “books”.

Much as with the PUAs and pussy beggars, someone is going to eventually open a monetized “MGTOW” site complete with forums, meet-ups, a live Twitter account, content behind a paywall, e-book sales, and all the rest. Others are going to go the “life coach” route by offering one-on-one help and sessions. A link to a MGTOW-ish PUA “life coaching” site was posted here fairly recently.

Hopefully, you won’t do any of that. Hopefully you’ll be satisfied to help other men without grinding a buck out of them or establishing some sort of master-slave “life coaching” relationship.

You want to help? Print up business cards with MGTOW.com on one side and a selection of pithy quotes on the other. Raise the level of awareness, not level of your bank account.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

What is the purpose of charging for something that can be found for free here? If you start talking about MGTOW at seminars and charging for it people will become even more skeptical and you will put them off of MGTOW all together once they realize everything you said can be found for free. If you want to help your fellow man do so without looking to profit from it.

There are young men who have not had a father figure looking for a mentor to teach them to learn how to be less effeminate and more masculine and may be willing to pay for that lesson. You have to become a life coach in all areas if you plan on doing this not just in one area regarding women. The market is saturated with these types of people but if you are good enough you can try to make a success out of it just don’t use only MGTOW as your key focus.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

@oldbill @rhino and the rest thank you. I dont have much in the way of sounding boards and I’ve got my blind spots.

You gave me ideas and angles not considered but sorely needed.

I wont monetize the process.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Got a lot of good ideas here.

Kimmuriel, the only thing I’d advise, no matter how you spread the info, is to not caste pearls before swine.

Some blue pill men are “happy” in their situation, and get indignant, or even violent if you tell them otherwise.

However, those who are searching for something better can actually be helped.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[OldBillParticipant]

Kimmuriel wrote:

I wont monetize the process.

I didn’t think you would, brother. I just wanted to point out what was at the end of the road you were thinking of walking.

By all means, make up those business cards which direct men here. Remember, however, that you’ll cannot talk a man off the Blue Pill anymore than you can talk a drunk off the bottle or a junkie off the needle.

A man has to want to change. He has to have awakened, either by suffering through the horrors inflicted on him or by watching the horrors inflicted on others.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

OldBill wrote:

Kimmuriel wrote:

I wont monetize the process.

I didn’t think you would, brother. I just wanted to point out what was at the end of the road you were thinking of walking.

By all means, make up those business cards which direct men here. Remember, however, that you’ll cannot talk a man off the Blue Pill anymore than you can talk a drunk off the bottle or a junkie off the needle.

A man has to want to change. He has to have awakened, either by suffering through the horrors inflicted on him or by watching the horrors inflicted on others.

Status update:

The front of the card reads in big letters “Dare you take this red pill?” with mgtow.com underneath with smaller font.

On the back is “You’ve been enslaved and told to take it like a man, now is the time to take back your manhood and leave your shackles in the sand”

I’ll run with this unless a better one surfaces.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

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