Marital rape.

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  • #206252
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    Varun
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/10824964/Rape-in-marriage-not-a-crime-Indian-court-rules.html

    After reading this article, I have two things I need to clear:

    1) I do not support the notion that married women can’t be raped by husbands; it is still a crime, isn’t it?

    2) But if marital rape is illegal, I can see clearly how women are gonna abuse it to get their share of free estate without much effort. Laws banning marital rape can be a dangerous thing for a country like India where most of the marriages are arranged marriages (indicating that the spouses meet each other only a month or two prior to the marriage), so any normal male sexual behaviour could be falsely interpreted as ‘rape’ and things could go awry in very little time. So how could people draw a clear line between what is rape and what is not?

    It looks more like the mythical rape culture in American colleges, doesn’t it?

    Again, I’m just trying to gather opinions; not that I give a f~~~ what happens…. either way I am not getting married and so are millions of men in this country.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    #206257
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    The same women insisting they are being raped by their husbands and how awful marriage is would be the first women to bitch and yell that men need to man up and marry them when they are post-wall and single.

    Taking women seriously is the sign of mental disease in men. India is a blue pill mess. It is hard to believe Indian men have any control over women or could do anything at all forcibly. Not in a country where they have women only trains and women have actually killed men for accidentally getting onto those trains. Not in a country where their VAWA is so extreme as to destroy not only men but their entire families at the whim of a woman.

    #206259
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    “It’s a woman’s right to refuse to have sex with her husband.”
    I hear this all the time from women regarding marriage.[sarcasm].
    And when she bends over to pick something up while not in the mood, you’d better not rape that ass with your eyes either.

    “Put on your collar, I’m taking you for a walk” she says.

    I forgot, why is it we’re supposed to want to marry ??????????????

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #206260
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    Keymaster
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    How the f~~~ can there be “rape” in a marriage?

    What’s next? Is it called “molestation” when a fireman carries a child out of a burning orphanage?

    A marriage contract is a VIP backstage pass to vagina.
    Anal is still for sale, but vagina is a guaranteed.

    If anything, “marital rape” is what every divorced man had to endure.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #206261
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    Anonymous
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    Marriage used to be a two way obligation. Men got sex, women got shelter, food and protection.

    Women still wanted the resources (and they took it in addition—men would manage resources but women wanted to do that, so now men just provide the resources and become the woman’s bitch completely) but refused to have any obligation of their own.

    It boggles my mind that there are men out there that think it’s okay for a woman to refuse sex in marriage. What is the point of marriage? It makes zero sense to sign up for that type of arrangement. And shame on the government for enforcing that ridiculous setup.

    If a woman doesn’t want to have sex with a man, she should not marry him. Why should she be entitled to his resources? That is absurd. Women should only marry men they are sexually attracted to.

    #206262
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    An Indian on these boards? Nice 🙂

    I’m a budding MGTOW but i believe marital rape should be punishable. Of course, legions of women will misuse this law just like 498A is being abused by women in India but it’s one of those areas where one can argue for both sides.

    #206264
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    Keymaster
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    i believe marital rape should be punishable

    What? How the f~~~ can you “rape” your wife?

    You mean like if she says “I have a headache” and you f~~~ her anyway?
    No man should marry a woman like that in the first place.

    That should be a test that every woman should pass. Before any man even THINKS of proposing, he should ask her “do you believe there is such a thing as “marital rape”??

    If the answer is “yes”, you DON’T MARRY HER.

    Too many WAY horny women out there to shackle yourself to one who has too much of a headache to f~~~. The last thing any man needs is to be having waffles for breakfast, and his own wife turns around and says “You know, I didn’t really want to have sex last night. You raped me. Pass the syrup.”

    What a f~~~ing nightmare.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #206267
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    i believe marital rape should be punishable

    What? How the f~~~ can you “rape” your wife?

    You mean like if she says “I have a headache” and you f~~~ her anyway?
    No man should marry a woman like that in the first place.

    That should be a test that every woman should pass actually – before she even gets a marriage proposal. Before any man thinks of proposing he should ask her “do you think there is such a thing as “marital rape”??

    If the answer is “yes”, you DON’T MARRY HER.

    Too many WAY horny women out there to shackle yourself to one who has too much of a headache to f~~~.

    I understand where you are coming from but believe me things are way different in India.

    In the metropolitan areas, things are a lot like the western world. But, the rural areas can get really bad for Women. I’m a guy who has access to both the cities and the rural villages and trust me, some women in rural areas are treated like absolute s~~~.

    Like i said, i can make a case for both being supportive/against this law in India. This particular law would definitely be misused by the women in metropolitan areas and will also help the women in the rural areas.

    #206268
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    Keymaster
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    But, the rural areas can get really bad for Women

    Really? I don’t believe you.

    Men built the subways and public transportation – including women’s only trains… and this is how they treat them men over there:

    OF COURSE that bitch would LOVE to nail you for “marital rape”. She wouldn’t even let you ride on the same gooddam train! F~~~ing hell this is.

    She would call it “Marital rape” if you borrowed her toothbrush! Even if you paid for it!

    Don’t f~~~ing marry in India, and “marital rape” is a non-issue.
    I would refuse to let a woman even use the term in a sentence!

    How insane would you have to propose to a female who thinks “marital rape” is even possible. That’s not a question.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #206270
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    VulnerableMGTOW
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    Really? I don’t believe you. Men built the subways and public transportation – including women’s only trains… and this is how they treat them men over there:

    <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/DaD3kHc1Gh8?feature=oembed” allowfullscreen=”” frameborder=”0″ height=”281″ width=”500″></iframe>

    OF COURSE that bitch would LOVE to nail you for “marital rape”. She wouldn’t even let you ride on the same gooddam train! F~~~ing hell this is.

    I hope the OP can confirm the things i have posted about how different the metropolitan and the rural areas are in India.
    Metropolitan areas are man hating blue pill hells while the rural areas are the exact opposite where you can beat up your wife to pulp and most women won’t even go to the police.
    I’m not denying that men are treated like s~~~ in India in some areas.

    To put things into perspective, the metropolitan areas are like the western world while the rural areas are like the middle east.

    #206271
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    Varun
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    Marriage used to be a two way obligation. Men got sex, women got shelter, food and protection.

    Women still wanted the resources (and they took it in addition—men would manage resources but women wanted to do that, so now men just provide the resources and become the woman’s bitch completely) but refused to have any obligation of their own.

    It boggles my mind that there are men out there that think it’s okay for a woman to refuse sex in marriage. What is the point of marriage? It makes zero sense to sign up for that type of arrangement. And shame on the government for enforcing that ridiculous setup.

    If a woman doesn’t want to have sex with a man, she should not marry him. Why should she be entitled to his resources? That is absurd. Women should only marry men they are sexually attracted to.

    In the original article the judge rules the case in favour of the man.

    Also (thank god) there aren’t many women who think there could be rape in marriage. These ‘women rights activists’ have very less support because over here, women would not acknowledge that they are being raped. Now maybe they share the same mentaity like Keymaster here:

    How the f~~~ can there be “rape” in a marriage?

    though I very much doubt it) or they just don’t want to give up their lifestyle of being the super-privileged housemaker by going against men and ending their marriages. I don’t really care much about those women anyway; their opinion doesn’t matter.

    But I think they’re not ‘speaking up’ because, well, they are not raped. These WRAs are wasting their time. Indian men are super-duper blue pill manginas en masse. The first night after marriage is supposed to be ‘the first time’ for many couples, but there are more men who do not sleep with their new wives because they still think its unethical and ‘would make her uncomfortable’.

    STORY

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    #206275
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    Varun
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    Really? I don’t believe you. Men built the subways and public transportation – including women’s only trains… and this is how they treat them men over there:

    <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/DaD3kHc1Gh8?feature=oembed” allowfullscreen=”” frameborder=”0″ height=”281″ width=”500″></iframe>

    OF COURSE that bitch would LOVE to nail you for “marital rape”. She wouldn’t even let you ride on the same gooddam train! F~~~ing hell this is.

    I hope the OP can confirm the things i have posted about how different the metropolitan and the rural areas are in India.
    Metropolitan areas are man hating blue pill hells while the rural areas are the exact opposite where you can beat up your wife to pulp and most women won’t even go to the police.
    I’m not denying that men are treated like s~~~ in India in some areas.

    To put things into perspective, the metropolitan areas are like the western world while the rural areas are like the middle east.

    You see that’s the problem. Rural women have their problems and urban men have their problems.

    WRAs won’t start in the villages. They start with their families.

    They won’t go to the rural villages and ‘rescue’ those women, no, that won’t get them the attention. They woud only victimize men from the rich urban areas.

    Rural men don’t have anything to lose. They’d be locked up and left to rot in jail for committing domestic violence. WRAs will get jack s~~~ from doing that. (Because, even the abused women will vouch for her abusive husband to get out of jail. Yes, its gross but that’s how Indian women are. They’d live even with those who abuse them. Its wrong but that is their mentality.)

    They only want to target those men who hardly oppress their wives; but have a lot of money that they don’t wanna part with.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    #206276
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    Show me a group of men of any culture and race that like to mistreat women and rape them.

    Not men you’ve “heard of” or that the media tells you are doing it.

    I want actual f~~~ing proof. Personal proof you have. People you actually know, large groups of them.

    Because even in f~~~ing prison they attack men that are accused of being rapists, rapists have to be isolated from the main population for their own safety. And these are our worst men we can find and they won’t approve of it.

    So where are these broad cultures that do it? I hear the media claim so and so, but I don’t believe it. Even those “Syrian refugees” the female refugees would just go back home because they whined it was so much worse in Europe than it was for them at home. Only the males actually leave because for males it actually does suck.

    Men are f~~~ing hard wired to treat women well and not rape them. That’s why it’s so f~~~ing easy for feminism to create so much outrage by bulls~~~ting that they’re raped: because to most men it’s the worst thing to do, biologically. They don’t have to be “trained” or conditioned against it. If anything you’d have to train and condition men to hate women and mistreat them.

    Even animals don’t rape. And animals don’t have law enforcement and VAWA and family courts.

    #206281
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    Really? I don’t believe you. Men built the subways and public transportation – including women’s only trains… and this is how they treat them men over there:

    <iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/DaD3kHc1Gh8?feature=oembed” allowfullscreen=”” frameborder=”0″ height=”281″ width=”500″></iframe>

    OF COURSE that bitch would LOVE to nail you for “marital rape”. She wouldn’t even let you ride on the same gooddam train! F~~~ing hell this is.

    I hope the OP can confirm the things i have posted about how different the metropolitan and the rural areas are in India.
    Metropolitan areas are man hating blue pill hells while the rural areas are the exact opposite where you can beat up your wife to pulp and most women won’t even go to the police.
    I’m not denying that men are treated like s~~~ in India in some areas.

    To put things into perspective, the metropolitan areas are like the western world while the rural areas are like the middle east.

    You see that’s the problem. Rural women have their problems and urban men have their problems.

    WRAs won’t start in the villages. They start with their families.

    They won’t go to the rural villages and ‘rescue’ those women, no, that won’t get them the attention. They woud only victimize men from the rich urban areas.

    Rural men don’t have anything to lose. They’d be locked up and left to rot in jail for committing domestic violence. WRAs will get jack s~~~ from doing that. (Because, even the abused women will vouch for her abusive husband to get out of jail. Yes, its gross but that’s how Indian women are. They’d live even with those who abuse them. Its wrong but that is their mentality.)

    They only want to target those men who hardly oppress their wives; but have a lot of money that they don’t wanna part with.

    I won’t disagree with any of the above post because it’s true. This law will be abused by the women in the urban areas. Like i said, women in rural areas won’t even complain even if they have abusive husbands which makes this law an exploitation tool for the WRA’s.

    #206282
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    Keymaster
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    Show me a group of men of any culture and race that like to mistreat women

    In ALL of my travels (and I have been around the world – more than once), I have seen ONLY WOMEN throw the word “rape” around like a frisbee. They bring it up in conversation. They play victim (even when they weren’t). They pretend like it’s a problem. They JOKE about it. Laugh about it. Lie about it. Obsess about it. They don’t take it seriously.

    …. but I have NEVER ONCE interacted with any one man (or group) in any country that spoke about it, suggested it, endorsed it, joked about it, or even brought it up in conversation.

    Every man I ever met and seen interact with women treats women better than they deserve.
    Every. Single. One.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #206286
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    Sidecar
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    The last thing any man needs is to be having waffles for breakfast, and his own wife turns around and says “You know, I didn’t really want to have sex last night. You raped me. Pass the syrup.”

    There’s a really easy demonstration of this principle and also the hypocrisy of what marriage has become in the west.

    Compare these two statements. Think about how society reacts and what the consequences are:

    : “I don’t feel like having sex tonight. Or ever again.”
    : “Well you have to.”

    Why is that considered “rape”?

    : “I don’t feel like supporting you for the rest of your life.”
    : “Well you have to.”

    Why is that considered her just due?

    F~~~ marriage. F~~~ everything to do with it.

    #206288
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    women in rural areas won’t even complain even if they have abusive husbands

    Of course not. On this side of the world, they go back for more of it! In this country, a loving husband is actually considered a “problem”.

    I had to see it on youtube to believe it!
    I couldn’t even imagine associating myself with a MONSTER of a female like that.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #206298
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    Varun
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    Every man I ever met and seen interact with women treats women better than they deserve.
    Every. Single. One.

    Yes, and why do they? Because of stories like this one

    Here is an article from a renowned Indian newspaper website:

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/man-woman/Why-do-smart-successful-women-tolerate-abuse/articleshow/20843540.cms

    You see how they make it seem like ‘its a bad way’.

    The fact is Indian men don’t abuse like they used to do because they know its unethical to treat women like that.

    Only illiterate fools would; which could be fixed by educating them the proper way.

    They’re not doing that. They are more like : “Do not do this because its wrong and you should not and you’ll be jailed if you do it”.. they don’t address issues that cause men to do abuse women.

    “Work hard and be a better person”
    “Manage your finances”
    “Take up hobbies to get you occupied”
    “Interact more with the opposite sex to eliminate myths” (They would never allow that here; boys and girls are tied away like cows and bulls because of, well, culture) .

    You can find that WRAs do not say this to men (all points)…. and MGTOW does (Except the last point of course) . That is why I came to this place. It doesn’t ask you to hate women. It just asks you to value yoursef more than them.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

    #206299
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    VulnerableMGTOW
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    Of course not. On this side of the world, they go back for more of it! In this country, a loving husband is actually considered a “problem”.

    I had to see it on youtube to believe it!
    I couldn’t even imagine associating myself with a MONSTER of a female like that.

    Not surprised one bit. I learnt at a very young age to never try to understand a woman’s actions using logic. I reserve my logic for men and men alone.

    #206313
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    Varun
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    Show me a group of men of any culture and race that like to mistreat women and rape them.

    Not men you’ve “heard of” or that the media tells you are doing it.

    I want actual f~~~ing proof. Personal proof you have. People you actually know, large groups of them.

    Because even in f~~~ing prison they attack men that are accused of being rapists, rapists have to be isolated from the main population for their own safety. And these are our worst men we can find and they won’t approve of it.

    So where are these broad cultures that do it? I hear the media claim so and so, but I don’t believe it. Even those “Syrian refugees” the female refugees would just go back home because they whined it was so much worse in Europe than it was for them at home. Only the males actually leave because for males it actually does suck.

    Men are f~~~ing hard wired to treat women well and not rape them. That’s why it’s so f~~~ing easy for feminism to create so much outrage by bulls~~~ting that they’re raped: because to most men it’s the worst thing to do, biologically. They don’t have to be “trained” or conditioned against it. If anything you’d have to train and condition men to hate women and mistreat them.

    Even animals don’t rape. And animals don’t have law enforcement and VAWA and family courts.

    I’ve had a nanny whose husband is abusive in the fact that he hits her and points out things he don’t like her doing because its not according to his norms. But its anything like the feminists say. He doesn’t abuse her 24/7 and, of course feminists, please be blind to the fact that men like him also love their wives unconditionally, provide for them, protect them, etc. etc. Sure he has insecurities that he asserts through anger and violence because he ‘can’t cry or moan about it like a female’. But that has just been a part of his upbringing.

    These activists are like ‘Indian men are patriarchical and bad; they are abusers, f~~~ them blah blah blah… kil them.. skin them alive…’ but do they ever think “maybe we coud find the root of the problems; what drives these men to commit crimes? Maybe if we try to fix these issues through proper education (not knife-to-the-throat type but the peaceful, loving, factual type), we could actually eliminate the problem of domestic violence against women.”????

    Its useless to try and make adults understand your point of view. After one point, the brain just isn’t capable to accept anything than what they believe to be correct.

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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