Marital Rape Laws

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Marital Rape Laws

I came across a good article re: marital rape laws. You can look up the marital rape laws in your state.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/marital-rape-laws.html

“Until 1975, every state had a “marital exemption” that allowed a husband to rape his wife without fear of legal consequences.

Since 1993, all 50 states and DC have enacted laws against marital rape.

Most states penalize marital rape like any other rape—that is, with fines that range between several thousand dollars in some states, to over $50,000 in others; and with prison terms that vary between several years and life in prison without parole.”

You just know that marital rape laws will be used by angry women to crucify men. If your loving wife gets upset about something, she can file false marital rape charges, and you could be looking at life in prison without parole.
Even if you are found innocent, the legal bills could ruin you.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Rife for abuse.

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[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh … rape. The common denominator of fear mongering feminists everywhere.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10915]

And women wonder why men aren’t getting married.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

For marital rape to ‘actually happen’ (I’m taking about ‘real’ cases of marita rape where the woman was actually violated, or, well, felt violated) would be when a couple rushed into a marriage after 10 dates and 3 months.

Over here in India, the most prevalent form of marriage is ‘arranged marriage’ where, not you, but your family decides who’s gonna be the right girl for you (and they make you feel like you also have a say in that decision but trust me you don’t). So marital rape is much more pronounced and prevaent over here.

So like if nobody forced a woman to get married to the wrong guy in the first place, I don’t see why there is such a term as ‘marital rape’ in the west. Nobody forced you to marry a rapist, then why complain? I can partially vouch for the women in my country ’cause well they kinda get forced you see; but I hope I have proven my point.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[narwhalParticipant]

Rape is rape. I don’t see what the relationship between the alleged assailant and victim has to do with it personally. If 2 people are married, I don’t believe a spouse should be allowed to physically force themselves on their mate.

All that said, if the 2 have an established relationship, then the idea of a false accusation should be looked into more thoroughly, IMO. And of course, regret is not rape. Putting yourself in a state where you cannot make sober decisions (that you later regret) doesn’t mean you were raped either.

In specific to rape in marriage, I don’t think a spouse has an obligation to perform sexually, but they also should not be able to leave the relationship with a financial benefit.

Ok. Then do it.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Hi Varun-
My hat is off to you.
I can’t believe some of the laws you have in India.
Wow.

[BlixerParticipant 8]

narwhal wrote:

Rape is rape. I don’t see what the relationship between the alleged assailant and victim has to do with it personally. If 2 people are married, I don’t believe a spouse should be allowed to physically force themselves on their mate.

All that said, if the 2 have an established relationship, then the idea of a false accusation should be looked into more thoroughly, IMO. And of course, regret is not rape. Putting yourself in a state where you cannot make sober decisions (that you later regret) doesn’t mean you were raped either.

In specific to rape in marriage, I don’t think a spouse has an obligation to perform sexually, but they also should not be able to leave the relationship with a financial benefit.

I agree with almost everything in your post, narwahl, but there actually is a legal obligation to perform sexually in a marriage. It’s called ‘conjugal rights’ and means just that. If one partner is not willing to have sex with the other, it can be legal reason to terminate the relationship.
I also think a moral obligation to have sex is in order here. Marriage is a contract, which implies going sexual exclusive so regulating sex in ways not to be expected at the time of contract is not right.
Of course this doesn’t justify any form of violence, let along rape. Lack of sex, regulated sex or bad sex in a partnership justifies going mgtow though…

[bob__Participant 946]

Women have nothing to offer men but vagina. Marriage traditionally provides steady access to vagina in exchange for the man providing for a woman. Now marriage does not guarantee anything for a man except a threat of getting all his stuff and future stuff taken away at any time and given to the woman. Men have nothing to gain from getting married and everything to lose.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

narwhal wrote:

Rape is rape. I don’t see what the relationship between the alleged assailant and victim has to do with it personally. If 2 people are married, I don’t believe a spouse should be allowed to physically force themselves on their mate.

All that said, if the 2 have an established relationship, then the idea of a false accusation should be looked into more thoroughly, IMO. And of course, regret is not rape. Putting yourself in a state where you cannot make sober decisions (that you later regret) doesn’t mean you were raped either.

That is true. Rape is rape. But in the case of married couples, when the wife shouts “my husband rape me!!”, the case should be investigated more thoroughly. If she’s right, the husband’ll get punished no matter what.

But if she is NOT, then she’ll just get the blames. “Oh, if you really had to cry rape, why the hell did you even get married to that guy?” <- The WRAs are trying to eliminate THIS.

“We must not let them put the blame on us if by chance a wife’s allegations that her husband raped her are proven false.”

THIS is actually what they mean when they say “Rape is rape. Married or not.” Its more about the ‘power of the gender’ (we are invincible and whatever we say is right) rather than the viability of the crime (rape should not go unpunished). I support the latter but I WILL NOT support the former because that puts millions of married men at risk of being abused.

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Hi Varun-
My hat is off to you.
I can’t believe some of the laws you have in India.
Wow.

I know right? But wait that’s not even the worst part.
The reason I want to stay away from women in my life is because, even if both men and women are ‘slaves to the society’, women still get treated better. Its like having two sledge dogs; one male and one female; the master lets the male dog pull the sledge because, well, he’s a male and more powerful than the female.. but when come feeding time, he is only given what is required… (a decent but floavouress meal of rice and bland curry), but the female is fed a ton of tasty treats and meat-loaves until she can eat no more.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

One time when I was still married we had a period when we didn’t talk to each other (because it was shortly after she put me in jail on false DV charges). However, we were trying to fix things, so it was mutually agreed, that even though we didn’t talk – we could still f~~~ if we wanted to – just show up and initiate the sex without any words. And that happened several times already after she would initiate it. And I would never f~~~ her against her will – if she would start resisting – I would have left. One night I was high, drunk and horny, so I thought this would be a good time to f~~~. And we had a god leash with chain collar we once bought as a sex toy, but never used it. So I took it and went upstairs to get her. Put it on, brought her downstairs (very gently) and f~~~ed her. She was totally into it and didn’t resist or object. No words were exchanged. She never brought this up until we broke up. And then she told her new prospects how I raped her that night. I found out about it and confronted her – she tried to convince me that this is what happened by gaslighting the whole story. I couldn’t believe it. She really convinced herself that that was rape. Good thing we divorced on good terms and she never brought any charges or anything, but this was one of my biggest red pills. Nobody’s safe.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Russky wrote:

One time when I was still married we had a period when we didn’t talk to each other (because it was shortly after she put me in jail on false DV charges). However, we were trying to fix things, so it was mutually agreed, that even though we didn’t talk – we could still f~~~ if we wanted to – just show up and initiate the sex without any words. And that happened several times already after she would initiate it. And I would never f~~~ her against her will – if she would start resisting – I would have left. One night I was high, drunk and horny, so I thought this would be a good time to f~~~. And we had a god leash with chain collar we once bought as a sex toy, but never used it. So I took it and went upstairs to get her. Put it on, brought her downstairs (very gently) and f~~~ed her. She was totally into it and didn’t resist or object. No words were exchanged. She never brought this up until we broke up. And then she told her new prospects how I raped her that night. I found out about it and confronted her – she tried to convince me that this is what happened by gaslighting the whole story. I couldn’t believe it. She really convinced herself that that was rape. Good thing we divorced on good terms and she never brought any charges or anything, but this was one of my biggest red pills. Nobody’s safe.

Do you think ‘not doing anything’, ‘not resisting’ is another form of consent in marriage? Please don’t mistake it for being offensive; I’m just curious.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

No no no, I guess I didn’t make it clear – not only she wasn’t resisting – she was actively participating (if my memory serves me right). It was normal and consensual by all means

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Russky wrote:

No no no, I guess I didn’t make it clear – not only she wasn’t resisting – she was actively participating (if my memory serves me right). It was normal and consensual by all means

But nobody will believe you if you say that, would they? They’d say, “Oh you’re just making it up!” Then your wife would be , ‘Yeah, he’s making it up!” Ahh bullcrap! I don’t want to be in that situation. How horrible it must have been? I feel you man!

I’ll take extreme care not to come into contact with a woman’s breath leaving her body if I could manage. But no measure is safe when you’re dealing with ’em.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[BlixerParticipant 8]

Russky wrote:

One time when I was still married we had a period when we didn’t talk to each other (because it was shortly after she put me in jail on false DV charges). However, we were trying to fix things, so it was mutually agreed, that even though we didn’t talk – we could still f~~~ if we wanted to – just show up and initiate the sex without any words. And that happened several times already after she would initiate it. And I would never f~~~ her against her will – if she would start resisting – I would have left. One night I was high, drunk and horny, so I thought this would be a good time to f~~~. And we had a god leash with chain collar we once bought as a sex toy, but never used it. So I took it and went upstairs to get her. Put it on, brought her downstairs (very gently) and f~~~ed her. She was totally into it and didn’t resist or object. No words were exchanged. She never brought this up until we broke up. And then she told her new prospects how I raped her that night. I found out about it and confronted her – she tried to convince me that this is what happened by gaslighting the whole story. I couldn’t believe it. She really convinced herself that that was rape. Good thing we divorced on good terms and she never brought any charges or anything, but this was one of my biggest red pills. Nobody’s safe.

creepy story. so glad you were lucky. i’ve heard so many of these now where the rape allegation is really totally obviously a lie. there is a wikipedia page on false rape allegations with studies varying from about 1.5 % to 90 %. the best methodology seemed to me to be the kanin study which – like other studies – came to a figure of about 40%.
the figure in accusations among acquaintances, ie not to the police, to get attention, one would imagine to be a lot higher.
the problem seems to be that women are in no way penalized or stigmatized for these false allegations.
how did or does your girl react to being found out to be lying on this? would you know how her friends or family reacted?

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