Manipulative Wives and Mothers

[ArcParticipant 350]

My family is of a traditional conservative, persuasion. In high school, my mother has occasionally cried and threatened to divorce my father. Before, I would drop everything to console her and so would my dad. Ever since I took the red pill, I’ve begun to see that my mother doesn’t necessarily have our family’s best interest at heart and uses these antics to get her way.

When ever she wants attention or wants to control my dad she makes a big show about wanting to divorce him, he submits to her demands, she calms down, and then a little later it starts all over again. When ever she wants to steer me away from the red pill, she does every manipulation in the book. She will shame me for “hating women”, console me by claiming NAWALT, and if all else fails she will get emotional and then refuse to talk to me (this gets my dad to get on my case) until I “admit I may be overreacting”. She’ll even give me random chores or errands just for the sake of keeping me busy.

Lately, I’ve noticed more and more that my mother keeps telling me I’d make a great husband. When ever she feels emotional or angry at my father, for some reason she has to say:

“You’d make one woman happy. You cook dinner and you clean the house. You’d make a great husband.”

I have to think, “Great for whome?”. Is it great for me? Is it great for me to go out, work 8-5 to earn the most money in the house and then have to come home, cook the food, and clean everything? I shouldn’t have any free time? Did I learn how to be self sufficient so I can take care of someone else? Why does she have to say something like this while also making a dig at my father?

More and more, marriage is looking like a raw deal and women are looking less appealing.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Arc wrote:

More and more, marriage is looking like a raw deal

You are almost there, “Marriage IS a VERY RAW deal !!!!!” There you go, that should do it ! By the way, many would consider this a HUGE understatement, but hey one step at a time.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Arc wrote:

“You’d make one woman happy. You cook dinner and you clean the house. You’d make a great husband.”

Next time reply, “Women can make themselves happy. Their happiness is NOT my responsibility. I will cook and clean for myself or hire a maid with all of the extra money I have since I won’t have to support a wife. You’re correct, however, on your last point — I would make a great husband. The problem is no woman makes a great wife.”

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Arc wrote:

When ever she wants attention or wants to control my dad she makes a big show about wanting to divorce him, he submits to her demands, she calms down, and then a little later it starts all over again.

Psychological bullying. See it for what it is.

Arc, go to Amazon.com and order the book by Marguerite and Willard Beecher Beyond Success and Failure: Ways to Self-Reliance and Maturity and read the chapter on The Manipulators, not to mention the rest of the book. You will be inoculated for life against your mother and other such people. If you don’t want to purchase the book, check the MadCat online world library catalog to show what libraries near you might have the book. The other members here will tell you that is what you would be getting into if you ever made the mistake of getting married.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

CORRECTION: It is WorldCat, not MadCat, which was the library catalog where I once worked. Here is the link:

http://www.worldcat.org/

Read the review on Amazon.com and you will see the book is highly regarded by those who have read it.

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@arc: I’m going to tell you right now that your mother is trying to groom you for another c~~~ just like her. That’s how women are. They want every man in their lives to fit their mental image of what a man (servant) is supposed to be. It is very much a control thing…psychological manipulation. I don’t talk to my mother. She has no control over me. She f~~~ing hates it. Instead of reducing her ego and owning her s~~~ with me, she takes any chance she can get to slander me to family and try to make herself look like a great mother. I f~~~ing loathe this woman. It matters not that I emerged through her filthy loins. Any dumb c~~~ can have a child.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Go by your gut it feels wrong uknow it’s wrong it’s totally wrong my mom was very similar. My story was I got bullied at school mom kept telling me not to fight work it out tell teacher right… dad was like you should fuk him up or he’s going to keep doing it cause bullies are cowards and your acting weak…… so I tried mom’s way just made it worst cause I was a pussy and a snitch so after I fought him not really won both bloody etc but I fought him then after he left me alone. Mom was prepin me to be a emasculated mangina.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

She’s not happy unless you’re not happy.

Ask your mother if the woman should make you happy? Or is she just there to gift you with her presence and the joy for you to have someone to serve?

A woman’s definition of sharing: ” You give, I take.”

[rebelandboltmanParticipant 640]

My advice to you: Get away from your family. It’s time for you to seek happiness for yourself.

Find the things that bring you joy and fulfillment.

[Mister StealthParticipant 362]

As someone who made the mistake and got married. I can tell you first hand it is a raw deal!

There is nothing that a wife can offer you that you cannot get at a better rate on the open market – without the headache or blue pills being offered to you

Enjoy life, invest for the future, and continue to conquer your world.

Steel sharpens steel

[ArcParticipant 350]

To everyone here, I do understand marriage is a stupid idea, especially today. My mother may argue that there may be women that are NAWALT; however, my argument to her is that there is nothing that would keep them that way. What repercussions are there keeping women from screwing over their husband for half of their material wealth? What incentives are there to dissuade a woman from getting married, getting pregnant, divorcing for half and pursuing alimony? What aspects in our social culture shame a woman for doing what I have just described? I could marry a woman seems to be a loyal and devout catholic wife. But what would protect me, what would hold her to that covenant if she just took of the mask and changed. Nothing. Not even prenups are all that safe anymore. It is just unbelievably infuriating to see this manipulation coming from my own mother.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@arc: Good points about the change. The CHANGE is real, my friend. Let me give you a personal example. When I met my wife, she was die hard conservative republican, thin, muscular, assertive, catholic (but not really knowledgeable), good mother, great sex (the best). Twenty years later she is an extremist liberal, put on 60-65 pounds (lost all weight since divorce filing), skinny-fat, apathetic, denounced catholic faith for some non-demon that performs concerts half the time, mother who has her head in sand about anything difficult regarding kids, and robotic sex with no kissing (has changed since divorce filing).

[Anonymous 5]

And i quote ” All men are good for is making money and babies” !!!!! In 1985 This quote came out of the mouth of my former mother in-law. Right after she found out that the “Will” her “estranged” and now dead husband had drawn up less then ten years before his death was valid and enforceable!!! Funny thing is, he made her the executor of that same “Will” and she found many ways to abuse that position through her only son.
Her daughter now my ex-wife, didnt do anything without consulting her mother, not me (fullblown mangina) but her mother!! I didnt put the peices together until a few years ago that, as far as I knew I had been married to a third generation man-hater (feminist), and make no mistake thats what she was and still is to this very day, and i am afraid that she may have passed that tradition on to my daughter. I wouldnt know because i havent spoken with my daughter or son since april of 1998.
To tell the truth there has only been one woman that I have had any long relationship with that was worth her body weight in salt, that is until she had me thrown out of my home by the police because I would not move back her to her home where she could go back to using the drugs of her choice and also drink as heavily as she could. The only reason i give her any props is because she had a physical condition of her mind she couldnt help, but thats it. After she had me thrown out , I could no longer trust her in any way shape or form.
Guys its not easy comming out of being a mangina, its like a drug, and if you have been conditioned to act a certain way with females, namely by fathers who forces you respect a women who on one hand would back hand an eight year old boy until his face was bloodied, or cup her hand and blast a hole through his eardrum, or beat you with a 2×4 and do other atrocious and abusive things to that same young boy. For small and insignificant slights, or nothing at all. Then that same young impressionable young boy thinks that if he can in some way shape or form “make” this f***n female like him by doing things that might please her, then you have the makings of a “mangina”. Its very confusing to a boy when a woman one day is very abusive and the next kissing your face and making you your favorite thing for supper!!!!
And in such the same fashion I used the same tactics with the women I have been with, the only tactics I knew. And I spent 13 years of my life trying to “win” the effections of an abusive (physicaly and emotionally, verbaly ) woman. My two children have been brain washed against me, they hate me !!! And all that I hoped for , for them will never be, because of that same abuse still goes on and on and on. I live in Missouri, and every few years I get restraining orders,Although if there were required of her evidence to prove the accusations leveled against me , they ( the court) would see that she is just perpetuating a consistent lie and has been for the last 18 years. But the whole point of this nonsense is that keeps me out of my childrens lives by their mother. Trust me if I could sue the lovely state of California for all the emotional pain and suffering, malicious prosecution and persecution, I would do it. But i do not have the money nor the amount of time left in my life to pursue such a venture, but if i could I would!!!!!
I have already morned the loss of my kids, many times over and have tried to covertly see what is going on in their lives. I have a Grandson, but do not know his name, how sad is that !!! And i want to say this to those men who want to throw in the towel and just give up. Take this from a man who has lost everything precious to him and i am 55 y/o there may yet be some hope. Trust me I know the pressure and it is intense and at times insufferable, you feel like you are drowning in a sea of injustice, and the whole worlds against you!! But I tell you this you are worth more than the grave, you have a lot to live for , if only to shove in the face of those who have abused you , abandoned you, called you horrible things, made false accusations in public, taken and done everything you think imaginableto discredit you and who you are. I say dont listen to them, when those false ideologies come into your mind tell them thats not true, your wrong, join like minded men and you will find support, and maybe even some who have more horrible experiences than your own.
But more importantly you will not have given these oppressive idiotic, moronic, twisters of facts, manipulators of the courts the satisfaction of this comment “I drove him to his grave”. Make it your lifes goal to outlive them, outsmart them ( because you can). If they have poisoned your childrens minds and hearts against you, it is not your fault, if they have manipulated the courts with false accusations and restraining orders, thats not your fault, the only fault you have in this in that you trusted them to be as honest as you are, as just as you are, and trusting in the court system thats already stacked against you x 1,000 %.
All women these days are masters of manipulations, they know that the courts do not consider you one iota, they also know they can manipulate facts,lie to the courts, turn your family members and old friends against you, and they will do this guaranteed, and there is nothing you can do to stop this short of a bullet to their heads. Although i do not condone this behavior , only because its against the laws, and I value my freedom more than their stupidity.
If you are in an abusive relationship get the hell out, do not look back, if you have children with this person, get a DNA test to confirm it. Then run as far as you can away from them. If the children are your support them. but in a way that your kids get the benefit of the support, not the mother.
And for those who are seriously considering getting married in such a barbaric environment, please reconsider for your own sake, your mentality’s sake.
And if you want to know just how she will behave after the vows are exchanged, make her angry, put her through the gauntlet of adversity, make her buy you supper, dont do anything for stupid Valentines day, make her pay her share of the expenses if you are living together, and not a dime less. Dont go to a bar and expect to find a wholesome woman there , chances are all youll find is what an STD feels like. The above is only for those who think that they cannot “live without a woman in their lives”.
Otherwise wise up or “man up” and become a man going his own way. I personally have found out that living alone without any stupid woman around has been the most pleasurable experience I have had since the day I wqas born.

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