Mangina, MGTOW, and the MIlitary

[I_see_broken_clocksParticipant 258]

I am the child of a single mother. My father had multiple felonies. My mother says because of how my dad was, she didn’t want him around, so no child support (I confirmed this with him later about him not having to pay child support). This situation played out in the 1980’s, and being 31, I don’t know how different the climate felt during that time when it comes to MGTOW and relationship dynamics.

So, two things I have been thinking about.

1. Having a single mother with good intentions, as a child and teenager, still made me a simp, mangina, white knight, beta orbiter. But what I realized is that even though I had a single mother who never criticized my father, never tried to brain wash me, and worked her ass off, she was so busy that as a very young child she had no time to teach me things that my father could have.

Yes, I have looked up my fathers records. He did have multiple felonies, so she didn’t lie to me about that, nor did she talk s~~~ about him. Her reasoning was if I wanted to talk to him when I am old enough, I will.

My reasoning back then for not believing true female nature involved a positive relationship with all the women in my family. My mother, aunt, and grandmother raised me. And luckily I had my grandfather(WW2 vet) who taught me enough to be independent when I was real young.

But even if the women in my family were 100% genuine about taking care of me, showing respect, making sure I had a roof over my head and food on the table, assuming that all women are decent was where I went wrong.

I’m curious what people have to say.

2. I believe that the military is one place that has the potential to, at the very least, remove blue pill thinking from a man. It happened to me. I was taught to think with logic and to disregard feelings for the good reason of keeping people alive. When life and death is an everyday thing, no one has time for feelings or being offended. I will say this is the best life lesson I learned from my service.

What are your guys thoughts? Do you believe the military is capable of developing a red pill mind set for blue pill men?

Also, i’m curious what the percentage of MGTOW”S are veterans. The irony that it was the government that lead me on the route to MGTOW thinking is entertaining.

My MGTOW thoughts for the day.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

I became red pill late in my military time. After twenty years of service and marriage I took a realistic look at what I got for supporting her.

Somehow all money toward what she wants and sex only when she wants didn’t seem very fair.

I’m not one to bitch and I chose my route every step of the way. I just didn’t realize until after retirement how blue pill/white knight I had been.

The military doesn’t necessarily reinforce red pill thinking, but it can be fertile ground for exploration of the concepts.

Ultimately, it’s a sacrifice of sovereignty that can pay off in many future ways. It’s the doing that is the devil.

Zero sum game–with a paycheck.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

1) if your mother is Soo good, why she picked up the worst Apple she could find?

It is a clear example bad boy attraction, part of AWALT, your mother really loved your father, why? Becouse he was an asshole.

If your father happened to be a good man, he wold not be your father, but wold be paying child support.

I KNOW, MY DAD IS THE SAME BRAND, MY MOTHER SAME AS YOURS.

I understand your thinking about your mother, but do not confuse her quality as a mother with her quality as a women, too diferent things.

You are the validation of her existence is the universe, your father? Just a sperm donor, she took the most violent, dangerous, strongest, asshole she could find to reproduce, to create a little strong monster capable of fighting and surviving if SHTF.

About the military, yes probably a good way to learn discipline and what not, but look at it the other way, those guys are getting divorce raped all the same… and there is also the risk of WW3 or some other s~~~ coming.
At the end you have a high chance of becoming cannon fodder.

What for?

There is less dangerous ways to learn some stuff needed for survival.

Just my 2 cents.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 7]

I have friends and relatives that are currently serving.
According to them the Military has gone full retard with the PC s~~~.

I served and while there I saw the stupid s~~~ that blue pill men do.

A couple of examples.
1. One dude got rolled by a hooker. He had his entire pay on him in cash. He told his lil punkin that he left his pay in a drawer and somebody stole his money while he was in the shower.
Therefore he would not be sending any money.

2. Over heard one guy tell his cupcake he was robbed and had no money to send home. In truth he dropped his entire check on a striper.

You can learn valuable stuff in the Military, just don’t expect a red pill nirvana. The Military is full of blue pill, pussy beggars.

[Anonymous 14]

Getting married is far safer historically than joining the Military. No need to sign over your Sovereignty to a woman, no need to sign over your Sovereignty to the Military either. Why voluntarily enlist yourself into being even more of a disposable utility than you already are in the eyes of Women and the Government? You are cannon fodder either way, and what for? In the Military you are fighting for…? At best a Gynocentric Society, that is if you believe that the wars are actually being fought for your country and not in the interest of another… lol Here, I will give you a push in the back and a slap on the ass, GO FOR IT KID! TEAM AMERICA, F~~~ YEA! Now try to have fun fighting in some country that will surely be one that Israel does not like, has attacked nobody, yet are clearly a big threat to our cherished Gynocentric Society. White Knight your ass off for it for all I care.

[Anonymous 38]

From what I saw in the military a lot are sort of blue-pilled ‘alphas’ while in relationships and red-pilled pussy beggars while single. That is probably how I would describe myself back then.

There are less f~~~s given, a masculine attitude in general and the obvious physical prowess. This is enough to bag themselves a hottie but the guy usually ends up getting oneitis for and spends his time away yearning for her like a lovesick teenager.

It’s very traditional in the military as well, to have ‘Jane’ back home. Unfortunately as a number of men found out Jane was banging private Chad the whole time.

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