“Male Abortion” Is Now Being Considered in Sweden

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Personally I’m against abortion but I guess some MRAs and MGTOW will be happy to hear about this. This will take financial responsibility away from the men. If it comes to American I guess women will less likely to try a trap a man by trying to get herself pregnant.

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It’s not just up to women to decide whether to have a baby or not, says the youth wing of Sweden’s Liberal Party. It has proposed granting expectant fathers the right to “legally abort” their unborn child up until the 18th week of pregnancy.

Men should have an equal right to opt out of parenting and choose whether or not to become a parent,” Marcus Nilsen, chairman of the party’s youth wing West (LUF) told the Swedish Aftonbladet newspaper.

This means that men are proposed to have the right to disclaim paternity until the 18th week of pregnancy, as long as it’s possible for a woman to undergo the abortion procedure.

The suggested “legal abortion,” if chosen, would be irreversible and require the father in question to renounce all parental rights and duties, including the right to see his child once it has been born, should the mother decide to keep it.

https://www.rt.com/news/334720-legal-male-abortion-sweden/

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[The Long WalkParticipant 1282]

If abortion has to exist in this day and age with so many ways to NOT get pregnant easily available, this is how it should be – equally fair for both parents (not so fair for the unborn baby I guess, but that’s another discussion). Although I expect the ‘equality’ loving femstapo will be out in force to protest and block any such change to the law.

[HitmanParticipant]

our baby, our vote .
give US some f~~~ing rights !

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

my wallet, my choice

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I disagree with this strongly. I’d rather see some poor sucker that got some tramp pregnant have to support his child than the child just be placed on welfare and become my responsibility.

Ideally a male birth control pill or temporary implant would exist like what exists for women, but until then if you don’t want to risk a child wear a condom or abstain…otherwise your kids aren’t my problem.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Hitman wrote:

our baby, our vote .
give US some f~~~ing rights !

Exactly. If a man doesn’t have a say in the fate of a child he helped to create then I could give a f~~~ about “her body her choice”.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Beer wrote:

I disagree with this strongly. I’d rather see some poor sucker that got some tramp pregnant have to support his child than the child just be placed on welfare and become my responsibility.

Ideally a male birth control pill or temporary implant would exist like what exists for women, but until then if you don’t want to risk a child wear a condom or abstain…otherwise your kids aren’t my problem.

Agreed. Accept responsibility if you f~~~ed up, that differentiates you as a man. Men are still going to have to pay for that kid if taxation is the method for doing so.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Beer wrote:

I disagree with this strongly. I’d rather see some poor sucker that got some tramp pregnant have to support his child than the child just be placed on welfare and become my responsibility.

Ideally a male birth control pill or temporary implant would exist like what exists for women, but until then if you don’t want to risk a child wear a condom or abstain…otherwise your kids aren’t my problem.

Yes. The man f~~~ed up, and should suffer the consequences of it and learn from it.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I realize that abortion is a hot issue and very polarizing. However, male abortion may or may not have to do with actually aborting a baby. Kind of like the many options that exist for women to “get rid of” a baby. It could be adoption for instance. The idea being that a man not force an abortion on the mother of his child, but rather that he opt out of any legal and financial commitments. She can have the baby and all that, but he won’t be obligated to pay for it, see it, if he didn’t want a child.

You know, feminists are going crazy with all the yes means yess, and actually signing contracts about having sex. How about, and this is because women have opened this can of worms, when men enter a relationship we can have a contract where children are an option. If any child is conceived, you check a box telling them whether or not each parent wants them and who will support them before anything.

Or we could all be adults about this, but since women are getting crazier, then too bad.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Anonymous 24]

Hey, what’s with posting 5 topics at once? It kinda looks like a strategy to bump other topics down a page to have more of a chance for them to go unnoticed… Just saying, it should not be allowed in my opinion.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

well, while this is a good ideia, it changes the financial burden from the idiot father to men in general, that, as usual, will have to pay for the stupid mistakes women do.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Silverstone the Second wrote:

I realize that abortion is a hot issue and very polarizing. However, male abortion may or may not have to do with actually aborting a baby. Kind of like the many options that exist for women to “get rid of” a baby. It could be adoption for instance. The idea being that a man not force an abortion on the mother of his child, but rather that he opt out of any legal and financial commitments. She can have the baby and all that, but he won’t be obligated to pay for it, see it, if he didn’t want a child.

You know, feminists are going crazy with all the yes means yess, and actually signing contracts about having sex. How about, and this is because women have opened this can of worms, when men enter a relationship we can have a contract where children are an option. If any child is conceived, you check a box telling them whether or not each parent wants them and who will support them before anything.

Or we could all be adults about this, but since women are getting crazier, then too bad.

I don’t disagree with that thinking but if a woman has the option to undo her mistake, a man should have the same right. Everybody can opt out of their mistake or nobody can. So if women have the right to abort, men should also.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[InfernalShadowParticipant 377]

@uchibenkei

I agree with you there. I don’t promote abortion, but if women have the right to choose whether or not to keep the child before it’s born, without the say so of the man involved, the man shouldn’t have to be forced to take care of the kid once it’s born.

If both parties agree to keep the kid that’s fine. But, if the woman wants to keep the kid regardless of what the man wants, then the man should be able to opt out of child support and in many cases, alimony.

But, I know this will never happen in our gynocentric society. So if you ever plan to have sex, I’d get a vasectomy beforehand.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

uchibenkei wrote:

I don’t disagree with that thinking but if a woman has the option to undo her mistake, a man should have the same right. Everybody can opt out of their mistake or nobody can. So if women have the right to abort, men should also.

This is why I turned pro-life. When the man doesn’t want it and the woman does, the man gets f~~~ed and has to accept responsibility. When the man wants it and the woman doesn’t, he still gets f~~~ed when he loses the child to abortion. I’ve known couples that very much wanted a child and the woman miscarried, and it was devastating for the father as well…I could only imagine an intentional abortion would be even more painful on a father who wants the child as the woman intentionally killed the child instead of the child just being lost to natural causes.

I’d rather just see no abortions at all than abortion laws that f~~~ the man over whenever both parents are not on the same page about whether to keep the child or not.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Sweden would be the last country in the World where this would pass as law

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Sweeden has been going to the dogs for a long time.

It’s likely to become a Muslim dominated country within a few generations so a lot of their political correctness is going to be reversed and replaced by a strict religious system.

Things like this will only speed up the process.

[vargpajParticipant 244]

i’m not too knowledgeable on the specifics of this issue, but i suspect the intent is to prevent men from being hit with massive child support payments. sweden is already a welfare state, so everyone is entitled to a decent standard of living regardless. benefits like maternity leave and healthcare would be provided and paid for by the government even if the father stayed on board. but “standard” is the key word- if i legally opt out of fatherhood, the mother gets whatever the government sets as the base level for support, not a percentage of my income. but for what its worth, the LUF is also the entity that recently wanted to legalise necrophilia and incest.

[AttonParticipant]

The double standard should end, if forced men into fatherhood worked dead beats would not exist.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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