Making friends since going Red Pill / MGTOW

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

I am sure this has been discussed on this forum, so I apologize in advance. I have found making friends since going MGTOW nearly impossible. I have cut basically all simps and blue-pillers out. The reason, I dropped all my friends is not because they are married or because they are blue-pill, mostly its because they are so flakey and have difficulty following through with plans. I have little tolerance for that type of s~~~.

Is it impossible to make good friends in your 30’s and beyond? Any suggestions for doing do?

[ghostParticipant]

Why are you trying to make new friends? Toughen up, mate.

Focus on building your business/career.

“A friendship founded on business is better than a business founded on friendship.” – John D. Rockefeller

[NeroParticipant 1466]

I have a lot of friends. The key, for me, has been to focus on the positive attributes of the person I’m dealing with or simply sticking to things we have in common. Yes, I do get annoyed at the flakiness of some of the guys who serve at the whims of their wives. With that said, many of them have command of at least one day a week from their masters. Because I have so many, I don’t need to rely too heavily on any one or a handful. My real close friends are mostly in my former situation, married with young kids and terrified of divorce rape. So, they just bide their time until they can act.

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

ghost wrote:

Why are you trying to make new friends? Toughen up, mate.

Focus on building your business/career.

“A friendship founded on business is better than a business founded on friendship.” – John D. Rockefeller

Because, I would like to go through this world with at least a few people around who I look forward to spending time with, instead of a life in front of a computer screen, or TV.

To answer your other question. I have peaked at my career. I can’t go any higher in my job. I make a comfortable living and would rather work less at this point in my life than work more/harder.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Actually, I’ve made some awesome friends on here. Thanks guys.

To your point. Have gaming friends for gaming. Gym friends for gym.

You will eventually find some overall RP men.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[The Black ScorpionParticipant 2144]

Who needs them?

I find the more Red Pilled I become the less I need and want to be around other people.

Solitude and ‘me time’ is right up there with food, water, oxygen and sleep for me.

You couldn’t pay me money to hang around with the people I considered friends back when I was Blue Pilled.

The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Work on yourself. When you reek of self confidence and self assuredness people will come to you. You won’t get there worrying if someone likes you. They can smell the doubt on you and turn away. Look how men want to be like James Dean, Clint Eastwood and Steve McQueen because they were so confident everyone wanted to be around them hoping it would rub off. I meet lots of single guys who have been burned by gynocentrism. With a common enemy they are more than willing to hang out with me.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

LastManStanding wrote:

instead of a life in front of a computer screen, or TV

Being alone and friendless does not condem you to that at all unless you are as weak as dishwater.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Realize clearly, blue pill men often “think” like women do. their coping processes, their irrational logic processes, inability to fix things or troubleshoot something. Many its not entirely their fault, their dad may be blue pill, no real male role models, less good male teacher role models nowadays. raised mostly by women, thats all they are exposed to.

Which is why when I see guys here acting or talking s~~~ like a chick, I have said so. They may not even know they are acting that way, I don’t say it to s~~~ on them or tear them down, I do it to make them aware of it so they can change behavior to be a better guy by not acting out like a woman. A mgtow guy acting out like a woman is a character flaw and if they truly are a mgtow guy, they will take it to heart and ultimately be appreciative of the observation and correction.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 3]

MGTOW is still an outlier and most men suck. You have to lower yourself to the mainstream if you want to be popular and have lots of acquaintances. I use the word acquaintances because it’s simply not possible to have many friends. You are lucky to have 1 or 2 friends your entire life. 5 is an abundance of riches and you can’t possibly ask for more than that.

Most people will be acquaintances instead. And it’s true the older you get the smaller those circles will be, and the better you are the less you’ll be willing to put up with. That’s just life.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

As a MGTOW, I don’t have and I don’t need ‘friends’; however, it is nice to associate with like-thinking men, such as the men on these forums. A MGTOW must ultimately be contented with being on his own; if you are not, then you need to adjust more to the MGTOW Mind-Set. Having said this, a person, in truth, has very few, if any, ‘true friends’ throughout their life; people come, people go, people sometimes are in your life for a limited period, and some people are ‘hangers on’ from some part of your life. I find that people generally are only your ‘friend’ because they want something from you, i.e. such people are not ‘true friends’. I consider a ‘true friend’ to be somebody who remains in contact with you, who accepts you as you truly are, who does not expect anything from you, who treats you decently, and also who (if/when appropriate) offers you advice/help when you need it.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

sjt1975 wrote:

As a MGTOW, I don’t have and I don’t need ‘friends’; however, it is nice to associate with like-thinking men, such as the men on these forums. A MGTOW must ultimately be contented with being on his own; if you are not, then you need to adjust more to the MGTOW Mind-Set. Having said this, a person, in truth, has very few, if any, ‘true friends’ throughout their life; people come, people go, people sometimes are in your life for a limited period, and some people are ‘hangers on’ from some part of your life. I find that people generally are only your ‘friend’ because they want something from you, i.e. such people are not ‘true friends’. I consider a ‘true friend’ to be somebody who remains in contact with you, who accepts you as you truly are, who does not expect anything from you, who treats you decently, and also who (if/when appropriate) offers you advice/help when you need it.

If the definition of a true friend is as you described, then it seems I have 2 of those. Damn, I’m lucky.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[HimeoParticipant 471]

Any suggestions for doing do?

Men bond through shared activities. That means you need to have a hobby / something to do and you need to take the time to do it consistently.

In short: “Become a regular, somewhere.”

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

With divorce being an experience most adult men have, and a growing number not willing to go through the exp again. Add in your own personal interests it should not be hard to find friends.

If I can find a group of friends in the car culture which is big time blue pill, you can in your area of interest.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

I guess I will have to just focus on my hobbies. I honestly think its not healthy to become some recluse, but I just can’t connect with shallow blue-pilled people any longer. I had 2 red-pilled friends in my old city, but since relocating its been tough.

[Anonymous 5]

ghost wrote:

Why are you trying to make new friends? Toughen up, mate.

Focus on building your business/career.

“A friendship founded on business is better than a business founded on friendship.” – John D. Rockefeller

I agree!

Grown men looking for friends, SMH.

[Anonymous 18]

I’d agree with men that you don’t need friends for sake of having friendships.

There is definitely a pleasure in sharing ideas, and communicating with other human beings. However, stop and think about the quality of communication.

You have hobbies, interests, and experiences that can be shared but there is a better way of doing this. In essence you want to be around like minded men. Based on things that you derive pleasure from on your own time. That is key. Once you find a meaning for yourself, you will find others like you.

What I am trying to say is friendship is a by-product. You will not grow as a person if friendship is made to be forefront of anything. Think back in your lifetime and I can guarantee you that most of your genuine friendships just came out to be – and were tied to other goals you were pursuing.

In order to gain confidence and self-worth – live by a motto: You are what you do.

Make your day harder – avoid cheap thrills of junk food, drama on TV, porn etc but instead go for a walk, learn a new skill, hit the gym.

Overtime (years) you will re-incarnate yourself. Improving oneself is holier than anything else you’d ever know.

Start. Gain momentum. Never look back.

As always, s~~~ is easier said than done.

Best wishes man.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Unfortunately, I don’t think this is something that you can have any control over. When the majority of men are such SIMPS, it really takes luck (or fate, or divine intervention, or whatever you want to call it) to meet someone worthwhile. I was 21 when I first met someone I could actually call a real friend.

However, don’t feel like you’re missing out. Almost nobody in this world has real friends. Don’t think for a second that what seems like a close friendship on the outside can’t dissolve in a split second when a real conflict comes up. Hey, we all know what usually happens to marriage. Become your own best friend, because THAT’S what you really have control over.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

Thanks for the replies. I do appreciate them. I guess, we are a much bigger minority of the population then I really realized. And going your own way, really means going your own way.

As for the advice of “improving myself”. I play 3 instruments, speak 2 languages,achieved a fairly high level in chess and am in above average physical shape. Take it from me, self-improvement is not all its cracked up to be. I honestly don’t see what the point in continuing doing it when I have already woodshedded thousands of hours into hobbies and learning new things.

[Anonymous 14]

A man’s thirties are tough, all of his childhood, high school, and college buddies are dropping like flies to marriage and kids. When you are the last man standing you are often alone, that is just the way it is. Find a hobby group of some sort like Jan talks about, gaming, gym, whatever it is you are into, that is about all you can do really to meet people.

CantStumpTrump’s post holds a lot of truth in it as well.

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