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Focus on YOU…Tune society out! Simple.
Exactly. But many of us aren’t tuned out of it. Its like a new-born chick that has one of its legs stuck in the shell (that meaning feeing a need to make excuses for women) and can’t get out…. he needs to grow and become strong enough to free himself.
We are evolving, slowly but steadily. The chick just needs to grow bigger, and when he does, he can finally pull his leg out and be on his own. There will come a time when we’re just gonna stop giving a f~~~ and divert our attention to more important aspects of our lives.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
BadKan,
I do see where you are coming from. There are a s~~~load of apologists out there. To the apologists…
However, MGTOW (as we have been calling it) has been around for hundreds of years. Just so happens that we are calling it MGTOW now.
If someone who says they are MGTOW makes excuses for irresponsible female behavior, call THEM out as a MGTOW poseur.First and foremost we need to concentrate on being happy with who we are. Not to seek validation in another because we are unhappy with ourselves. Difficult, yes. You have to look at yourself forgive yourself and be the best you can with what you got.
The desperation of mainstream men and women is an indicator on just how f~~~ing unhappy they are with themselves. They need someone else to approve of them and they constantly seek validation from others.
MGTOW will not fail, it has been changing from decade to decade but ultimately at its core its about men learning to be happy with who we are and telling the world to f~~~ off.
“So no more runnin’. I aim to misbehave.”
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
One thing that I noticed from the begining when I started to watch Mgtow content, and it is increasing withing Mgtow, at least on youtube, is this trend of making excuses for women.
From saying women are “misunderstood”, to calling them “perpetual children”.
That is one reason why, despite all my disagreement with the so called “extremes” Mgtows, when it comes to women, I rather them than the moderates.
I am tired, of all the videos explaining all the reasons why women do, what they do. Arranging excuses for their p~~~ poor behavior. At this point, I really don’t care.
The thing is this: they have the RIGHTS of a grown up, so they should have the RESPONSABILITIES of one. Period. No buts, or ifs, or whatever. That, or give them the same RIGHTS of a CHILD, if they will have the same RESPONSABILITIES of such!
It amazes me the number of “men going their own way” being offended when someone call women on their s~~~. I, myself, was called out because I said women should defend themselves on the “Colongne rape case” (where no evidence was provided that such “rapes” occured in the first place, might I add.) If women are, indeed, like children, then they should have the RIGHTS of a child! No vote, no work, must have the permission of an ADULT for most things.
And yet, I see, now and then, people claiming to be “mgtow” and having this S~~~TY double standard of women being our “equals” but, at the same time, having to be “taken cared of”. They are equal, but different. To that I say: f~~~ that. They are either our equals, or not. Not even all MEN are equal, and yet we expect MINIMAL STANDARTS from ALL MEN, REGARDLESS of who they are, but somehow women get a pass?
That is why Mgtow, as a movement, will fail. Women are not the only ones with their nature against men. The majority of men THEMSELVES have the instinct of a lemming. Ready to throw themselves out of a cliff, in benefit of women. Propagating myths (like the one where WOMEN are better caregivers then men. Guess who started this? Carloline Norton, a FEMINIST of mid 19th that used this argument, I wonder how much SCIENCE was invested on this assertion, to get her children from the custody of their FATHER. source: http://oratorasaurus.tumblr.com/post/54665699512/the-idea-that-women-are-better-caregivers-is-a).
Anyway, a short rant before ending my day.
See ya guys later.
Cheers.
Being extreme consistently with moral indignation takes a lot effort as sometimes you should actually have to get up and do something other than bitch. Being chill and making excuses is easier. That’s why I actually don’t give a f~~~ and smoke em if I got em. Handle it how you want.
This is going to sound like an excuse, but I don’t intend it to be. The idea that we are all equal is utter BS…in reality. We all have different biology, conditioning, and consequences that makes us different, pushes us to make different choices. I’d make the argument that in many situations, it’s harder for a woman to behave properly because she has different biology, conditioning, and consequences to ‘overcome’. It’s not an excuse though, that’s just how it is as I see it.
So yes, I recognize that things are different for women then they are for men, but I also see it as irrelevant. I don’t want bad behavior in my life and I will do what is in my rights to avoid and remove it. I may at times make a value judgment, whether I can live with some bad behavior in return for something I hold value to, but I am not under any obligation to do so.
Here’s a hypothetical situation. If someone who has never smoked before asks if they can smoke in my house, the answer is no. If a chain smoker asks the same, the answer is still no.. The damage to my house is the same in both cases, and I certainly have no obligation to let the chain smoker have at it just because he is conditioned to smoke, while the non-smoker is not.
Now, if the chain smoker is paying me $100k to let him smoke, then I think I would go ahead and make that exception. The problem men have is the we believe we’re getting $100k when we let women in our lives, when really all we’re getting is smoke.
Ok. Then do it.
This thread has a lot of interesting ideas in it…here are a few more…
Perhaps the greatest lie – the BIG LIE – of Feminism is that men and women are EQUAL.
Or, that with “Social Engineering” and the Rule Of Law, men and women can be made to be equal.
There’s a fellow on MGTOW who’s end line is “Feminism can’t overcome biology”. I can’t remember who he is at the moment, but he DEAD RIGHT.
AS A RACE OF BEINGS WITH TWO SEPARATE SEXES BIOLOGY REIGNS SUPREME.
Not Laws, not politics, not media, not governments – they are all “byproducts” of civilization.
In the distant past, say a couple hundred years ago, this inherent fact of BIOLOGY ruled.
Men were men and women were women, and never the twain would meet. Men built the world, and women had the children and raised them.
Since the Industrial Revolution that changed. Men, driven by their BIOLOGY to dominate their world and to invent devices to do so, became victims of their own success. They made the world so easy to deal with that women began to have more and more “free time” to question their existence as makers of babies.
The Industrial Revolution changed the world of men and women alike – but did not change their BIOLOGY. That is not possible to accomplish.
THUS THE FIRST BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN WAS THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
Unfortunately, the logical outgrowth of the Industrial Revolution was FEMINISM.
Feminism attempts to usurp biology and establish an “un-natural” equality between men and women. As it has failed miserably Feminism has attempted to “morph” into not equality, but as a dominant supremacy over men.
While it may seem that Feminism has the upper hand at this time in history – with it’s massive control of Politics, Government, Law and even the attempts by modern Media to report “lies” as “facts”, like George Orwell described in the work of his main character Winston Smith at the “Ministry of Truth” in the novel “1984” – it does not.
It only seems to be in charge to us – the men who have been “slaves” on the Feminist Plantation.
BUT IN THE END BIOLOGY IS STILL IN CHARGE.
Feminism – as a worldview – is on it’s last legs. It has utterly destroyed everything it has touched, and more and more individuals are waking up to this fact.
THUS THE SECOND BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN WAS FEMINISM.
Here’s where it gets interesting…
MGTOW IS THE POTENTIAL THIRD BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN.
The first big change of the Industrial Revolution made the world easier to dominate, which led to the second big change of Feminism which in the end attempts to place one sex (women) in a Superior dominating position over the other sex (men). Because Feminism goes against the RULES OF BIOLOGY it is now FAILING UTTERLY.
Even Hag Harpie Wackjob Frenzied Feminazi C~~~s recognize this – and believe me they are scared.
MGTOW will either fail – in which case civilization will fail – or it will succeed.
If it succeeds it will re-establish the NATURAL AND INESCAPABLE LAWS OF BIOLOGY to the Human Race.
RELISH YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN MGTOW. You are in a position that very few men have ever been able to claim in all of Human History – to be on the “cutting edge” of the future.
REVEL IN BEING A MAN AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY.
REVEL IN YOUR PLACE IN HISTORY.
REVEL IN YOUR POWER AS A MAN.
REVEL IN YOUR PLACE IN BIOLOGY.
REVEL IN MGTOW!
"In my many years I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm and three or more is a Government..." - John Adams
Anonymous54This thread has a lot of interesting ideas in it…here are a few more…
Perhaps the greatest lie – the BIG LIE – of Feminism is that men and women are EQUAL.
Or, that with “Social Engineering” and the Rule Of Law, men and women can be made to be equal.
There’s a fellow on MGTOW who’s end line is “Feminism can’t overcome biology”. I can’t remember who he is at the moment, but he DEAD RIGHT.
AS A RACE OF BEINGS WITH TWO SEPARATE SEXES BIOLOGY REIGNS SUPREME.
Not Laws, not politics, not media, not governments – they are all “byproducts” of civilization.
In the distant past, say a couple hundred years ago, this inherent fact of BIOLOGY ruled.
Men were men and women were women, and never the twain would meet. Men built the world, and women had the children and raised them.
Since the Industrial Revolution that changed. Men, driven by their BIOLOGY to dominate their world and to invent devices to do so, became victims of their own success. They made the world so easy to deal with that women began to have more and more “free time” to question their existence as makers of babies.
The Industrial Revolution changed the world of men and women alike – but did not change their BIOLOGY. That is not possible to accomplish.
THUS THE FIRST BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN WAS THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION.
Unfortunately, the logical outgrowth of the Industrial Revolution was FEMINISM.
Feminism attempts to usurp biology and establish an “un-natural” equality between men and women. As it has failed miserably Feminism has attempted to “morph” into not equality, but as a dominant supremacy over men.
While it may seem that Feminism has the upper hand at this time in history – with it’s massive control of Politics, Government, Law and even the attempts by modern Media to report “lies” as “facts”, like George Orwell described in the work of his main character Winston Smith at the “Ministry of Truth” in the novel “1984” – it does not.
It only seems to be in charge to us – the men who have been “slaves” on the Feminist Plantation.
BUT IN THE END BIOLOGY IS STILL IN CHARGE.
Feminism – as a worldview – is on it’s last legs. It has utterly destroyed everything it has touched, and more and more individuals are waking up to this fact.
THUS THE SECOND BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN WAS FEMINISM.
Here’s where it gets interesting…
MGTOW IS THE POTENTIAL THIRD BIG CHANGE IN THE MODERN WORLD OF MEN AND WOMEN.
The first big change of the Industrial Revolution made the world easier to dominate, which led to the second big change of Feminism which in the end attempts to place one sex (women) in a Superior dominating position over the other sex (men). Because Feminism goes against the RULES OF BIOLOGY it is now FAILING UTTERLY.
Even Hag Harpie Wackjob Frenzied Feminazi C~~~s recognize this – and believe me they are scared.
MGTOW will either fail – in which case civilization will fail – or it will succeed.
If it succeeds it will re-establish the NATURAL AND INESCAPABLE LAWS OF BIOLOGY to the Human Race.
RELISH YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN MGTOW. You are in a position that very few men have ever been able to claim in all of Human History – to be on the “cutting edge” of the future.
REVEL IN BEING A MAN AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY.
REVEL IN YOUR PLACE IN HISTORY.
REVEL IN YOUR POWER AS A MAN.
REVEL IN YOUR PLACE IN BIOLOGY.
REVEL IN MGTOW!
Another inspiring pep talk to rally the troops!!!You are spot on ..we have ceated a world so easy for them they want to take it over. If wimen were truly eaquil they wouldnt have to pass a law to make it happen would they. And YES i enjoy emensley the idea of being part of history.Men going there own way is the only viable solution.I let the females around me know,thru my general vibe,that i am not here to help them,or be chivoulrous . We have no obligatiin to even speak to them.
to calling them “perpetual children”.
Even “perpetual children” need to be spanked when necessary.
And if they really are “perpetual children” then why the f~~~ are they allowed to vote? If women want the big kid rights, then women should damn well shoulder the big kid responsibilities, and be held to them. The problem is society doesn’t hold them to it.
But MGTOW do.
Anonymous1Yeah, I think what p~~~es me off the most is the double standards. The “glorification” of what women do in order to make it equal to what men do.
I see a lot of “men” gloryfing the BIOLOGICAL FUNCTION of having children.
First: women don’t have children alone, the last time I checked, a sperm was needed.
Second: maybe in the distant past raising children was a duty comparable to what a men did (not really, but still was some kind of work), but nowadays? And to say that women are BETTER at it? When the very notion came from a F~~~ING FEMINIST trying to get her kids AWAY from THEIR FATHER? And what about the men, the FATHERS, what are they supposed to do? Oh yeah, put your head down and kill yourself working. And despite all the sacrifices the MEN does for the family, WOMEN are the ones getting the credits, for “raising a famiily”?
These tradcons, and fake Mgtows, can suck a dick.
That is one, just one, of the many reasons why I will not start a family. In the end, these “moderate mgtows”, which are nothing more than Tradcons looking for a new label are no better than the feminists. They worship the pussy, and keep making excuses for women’s faulty behavior. “It is not their fault”, they say, “it is CULTURAL MARXISIM”, they say, “It is FEMINISM”, they say. It is EVERYTHING but women’s agency.
F~~~ all of them. Let they fall with this rotten civilization they built on the sweat, blood and TEARS of MEN.
Cheers.
Thanks for this post.
Women clearly don’t take responsibility for their actions most of the time.
Women can not be compared to scorpions. The difference is intent.
A woman who files a false paternity suit is intentionally acting in an evil manner. Saying a woman is not responsible because she is only acting according to her nature absolves the woman of her culpability.
It’s like saying Hitler was only acting according to his nature. No, Hitler behaved evily and he was responsible for his actions.
Likewise women should be held accountable when they behave like evil bitches (which is most of the time)Women can not be compared to scorpions. The difference is intent.
Perfect analysis!
This site ensures that no man forgets.
WHAT IS HER INTENT
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WHAT IS HER INTENT
yes yes by all means “deal with it”, “learn from it”, “move on”, “etc”.
However, when pulling open the drawer labelled “women” , pity the fool who does not maintain vigilance to preserve himself from destruction. That vigilance must be as, “keep your powder dry” ever at ready via this site, not “been there” “done that”………………BAM and he gets hit with the same s~~~!
Am I capable of making the same mistake twice???? of course I am.
“learning from failure” = Colin Powell.To Review these things is crucial, more importantly is to make certain other men review them as well.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
There are some f~~~ed up things about women AND the way society teaches them to think and behave .
It is not my responsibility as a man to just deal with it.
Because in many ways i can simply avoid them.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Anonymous54I think its important to talk about the evil in women,,yes F~~~ING EVIL..ive lived it..barely survieded it dont give a f~~~ what anybody thinks of it. F~~~ing evil.There are,times when even i will see a potential nawalt,then come here and read and remind my self of there inherently evil manipultave disrespectful narcissistic way of being. I dont give a f~~~ where it comes from. It just simply is. And i want nothing more to do with it.
Thank you @BadKan.
Even on Youtube videos, I see quite a bit of MGTOW saying women are children. Women aren’t f~~~ing children. They’re just treated like they’re children by society and governments. Which is why they get away with the stupid s~~~ they say and do ALL the f~~~ing time.
This notion that women are children is f~~~ing ignorant to say the least. I treat women in the same way I’d treat a man. If a woman hits me, I’ll defend myself and hit her back in self defense. If a woman expects me to pay for dinner, I’ll expect her to either suck my dick for it or pay for half of the dinner. If she expects me to lift heavy things, I’ll tell her to f~~~ off and pick it up herself.
There are a few exceptions to my rules, at least for a few of my family members, but otherwise, I treat women the same way I’d treat any other man. I’ll also go tell them to f~~~ off if they p~~~ me off just like I’d tell any other man.
Society has to stop treating women like f~~~ing children and start holding them accountable for their actions. If women are children, then they shouldn’t be allowed to drink, drive, vote, etc.
Women aren’t children. They’re adults and should be treated as such. They know what they’re doing when they screw men over. So f~~~ them.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
I dont makw excuses for women but i know if i touch poisonous snakes sooner or later i will get bitten.
Just dont touch.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Anonymous3Even on Youtube videos, I see quite a bit of MGTOW saying women are children. Women aren’t f~~~ing children. They’re just treated like they’re children by society and governments. Which is why they get away with the stupid s~~~ they say and do ALL the f~~~ing time.
This notion that women are children is f~~~ing ignorant to say the least. I treat women in the same way I’d treat a man. If a woman hits me, I’ll defend myself and hit her back in self defense. If a woman expects me to pay for dinner, I’ll expect her to either suck my dick for it or pay for half of the dinner. If she expects me to lift heavy things, I’ll tell her to f~~~ off and pick it up herself.
Society has to stop treating women like f~~~ing children and start holding them accountable for their actions. If women are children, then they shouldn’t be allowed to drink, drive, vote, etc.
Women aren’t children. They’re adults and should be treated as such. They know what they’re doing when they screw men over. So f~~~ them.
Women are children, but society treats them as adults. Are children allowed to go out by themselves? Usually not. Are they allowed to use credit cards? Not really. Are they told to live on their own? Nope.
Women do all those things, screw things up, and then get bailed out. Society allows women the freedom of adults and the accountability of children. They are not disciplined like children nor held under the authority of a father or husband like a child would be and as society used to.
I don’t care about fixing society, but women need to lose the right to vote, and they need to be booted from the workplace. They can get some education, but there is no sense in giving them a college education, and as well boys and girls need to be segregated in school.
Basically, America and every previous great civilization built itself using a certain set of rules. But America, like every other society that failed before it, once it had its wealth and affluence changed rules for women’s benefit and is now coming apart at the seams.
This is nothing new. Babylon, Greece, Rome, Arab and Ottoman Empires all failed in the exact same way. Those that don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Feminism is nothing new, it has shown up in the last 50-100 years of every collapsing great civilization, and it is right on cue for this one as well.
Women are children, but society treats them as adults. Are children allowed to go out by themselves? Usually not. Are they allowed to use credit cards? Not really. Are they told to live on their own? Nope.
I don’t agree with that one bit on women are children. Children can’t divorce rape you. Children can’t screw with your career if you get into business with them. Children can’t change laws that will benefit themselves.
When women lose all their benefits such as the right to vote or drink, I’ll start treating them like children. Until then, I’ll hold them to the same standards as I hold other men.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
Anonymous3Women are children, but society treats them as adults. Are children allowed to go out by themselves? Usually not. Are they allowed to use credit cards? Not really. Are they told to live on their own? Nope.
I don’t agree with that one bit on women are children. Children can’t divorce rape you. Children can’t screw with your career if you get into business with them. Children can’t change laws that will benefit themselves.
When women lose all their benefits such as the right to vote or drink, I’ll start treating them like children. Until then, I’ll hold them to the same standards as I hold other men.
Children can’t divorce rape, because they are treated as children. Women can divorce rape, because they are treated as adults.
It doesn’t matter what you do at an individual level. It is what society decides at the overall level. The only thing you can really do is avoid women and not enter into society’s contract for them, but otherwise what are you really going to do about it?
If you work, chances are there is an incompetent female co-worker or superior that you’re going to get stuck interacting with. Treating them like men doesn’t work, because men are actually held accountable and require merit. You will not be allowed to treat them that way, because they are backed by the system.
The best method is to be MGTOW and ghost. Don’t make yourself a target. Avoid conversation. Just work and go home, and then be on your own. Modern society wouldn’t be what it is today if it was just that easy to deal with women, they’ve forced themselves into every sphere of life and have the full power and force of the government behind them. The only true way for men to be free is to dismantle government, but that isn’t going to happen so the next best thing is to just escape notice.
I get what you’re saying, but thinking of women as children is only giving more reason to f~~~ you over if they ever get the chance to. If only if you have to work with them at your job.
If we were living in a different time or a different society where women were actually treated like children by the legal system, I’d treat them like children. But, I’m not living in such a society, so I don’t treat them like children.
As for everything else, I’m avoiding women as much as possible. interacting with women full time will only cause me more trouble.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
In nature, vivid colours – particularly red – often warn of danger, and it can be as wise to stop well away from an animal or insect with bright warning colours as it is to obey the red traffic light.
With regard to women, those colours are represented by seeing kids in their online dating profile images.
“Single” women on dating sites with kids in their photos = wallet sucking pit-viper!
Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.Well said Lurch.
It’s important that men remember at the very least, having gone through the meat grinder divorce industry, to have their own offspring. Their own heirs. Their own genetic code handed down. Before having a child this is not evident, but once you have a child that’s yours, a complete new circuit is slammed into the gray matter regarding what’s truly important to you in life.
No child, no circuit no loss. Have your own child, then, new value to everything.
Single mom’s know this, but do not want you to know it. Men aren’t supposed to talk to each other about these things. You are only to be used, as SHE sees fit.
This whole decision matrix is preemptively removed via the single mom. The advanced ones will have a child with the new guy, and divorce him, and have a new child with the next.. .. .. Look for kids ages for the pattern 5 and 17 years old. Overlapping the stipends is all they care about, not keeping a marriage together. Nor providing the provider with the number of his children equal to his contribution.
I’ve spoken to too many “captain save a hoes” who were used. If you truly truly save these wenches, there is still NOTHING guaranteed. Don’t sell yourself short, avoid single moms at all costs."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
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