makes me wonder – its not your kid…

[treznik87Participant 570]

I dont know if this was discussed before…

I listened to Tom Leykis’s show – an episode about a woman with a child, who is living with a husband who is NOT the father and he doesnt know… She refused to tell him because she wants a security. And she stated that ‘he would except him anyway’ because she knows him that well and he would do that… really? Then tell him… Get your security from a guy who creampied you to the point you got pregnant bitch! Oh, and she actually doesnt want to be with her husband, but she is because the guy who knocked her up doesnt want to do anything with her anymore. And now, she is with her husband because of security. just think about it – she would leave him in a heartbeat if the other guy wanted her. That is not just sick and selfish. Its pure EVIL. I liked the guy who called the show and told her that she should be dragged to the woods and shot.

Makes me wonder how much stuff like this is happening all around us? How can they live with it? How does it feel when you find out after 5, 10, 20 years that your son is not actually yours? I think it would be so devastating to me to do something life changing stupidity to her or to me. What about the child who finds out when he is an adult that her mummy is a slut and his daddy is not a real daddy? It makes me sick just to think about it. But Im pretty sure theres a ton of situations like this all over the world, and it has always been like that. What you dont know cant hurt you right? Sometimes ignorance is a bliss.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Love the pic – “true dat” to use the vernacular.

As to the topic, what’s REALLY scary is how it’s apparently illegal to get a paternity test in France and other countries, without the mother’s/court’s permission.

For all you guys that still think labels like liberal and conservative actually mean anything, try this: Next time you encounter a liberal talking about reproductive rights, ask them if they would consider knowing whether or not a child is yours or not to be a basic human right.

If they say yes, then ask them if they support changing the laws in France or mandatory paternity testing before adding a father to a birth certificate.

If they say no, then ask them if they would be okay with hospitals handing out random babies to take home from the maternity ward to new mothers. After all, you don’t support the right to know who a baby’s parent is, so why does it matter which baby mothers/couples bring home?

You may suddenly find a liberal in complete agreement with you, which may beg the question – why do we let the supposedly politically intellectual “elite” convince us to subdivide into opposed groups in the first place?

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Anonymous 18]

It’s a thing of centuries my friend. Men raise kids that are not their own. Unknowingly. It’s nature.

1 in 3 women spread their legs to collect sperm that is not by the authorized dealer.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

The man has no one to blame but himself. If a woman ever claimed a child to be mine, I’m getting 2 different DNA tests. Don’t care how much protesting she does, f~~~ her (oops too late).

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Devil’s advocate here: It was also the norm for centuries for women to keep a home and raise kids and honor the social contract, but that didn’t stop THAT whole thing from being scrapped. If expectations have been changed for women, it’s not unreasonable for us to ask for some basic rights too.

Then again there’s that whole “reason” ting that seems to……….eeelude so many women and their cronies.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Exsliventxs wrote:

The man has no one to blame but himself. If a woman ever claimed a child to be mine, I’m getting 2 different DNA tests. Don’t care how much protesting she does, f~~~ her (oops too late).

What if you live in a country where that’s illegal?

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Exsliventxs wrote:
The man has no one to blame but himself. If a woman ever claimed a child to be mine, I’m getting 2 different DNA tests. Don’t care how much protesting she does, f~~~ her (oops too late).
What if you live in a country where that’s illegal?

I dunno man – if i managed to p~~~ off every single deity, and wound up in a country like that, with a girl, who was pregnant by some other guy…

…well s~~~, i can always grow a beard, adopt a foreign accent & move to another country with no mutual-assistance/legal agreements. The latest stats i’ve heard are ~$250k to raise a kid. Child support is likely more than that based on my salary.

Ditching the country for greener pastures is almost like an investment at that point!

[Anonymous 18]

Exsliventxs wrote:

I’m getting 2 different DNA tests. Don’t care how much protesting she does, f~~~ her (oops too late).

As Biggvs_Dickvs pointed out, in some jurisdictions obtaining DNA without the mother’s consent is a felony.

For s~~~ and giggles they sell paternity test kits at Walgreens. F~~~in’ A.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

well i listened to the entire episode a few days ago. I know which one u mean… so they already have 3 or 4 kids together before the bastard child…and both make decent money according to the woman calling in…. the youngest kid doesnt look at all like the father …she describes it in a way that its totally obvious and that he has already noted that. But what should the guy do? its part of being in that “married with children” trap…. in his case he cant do anything besides playing along….he has no choice anymore other than to put up with this s~~~, if he wants to keep his familiy together and avoid chaos and stress for him and his own kids… he has 3 or 4 ( i dont know if 3 or 4 but it was whether 3 or 4 ) regular kids with that woman already… keep that in mind. Bye listening to the story i realized that he actually knows that the last kid is from someone else, but he cant do s~~~ about it, so he said to her ” if its not mine i dont even wanna know”

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

You’re a man. Your ancestors conquered nature. Figure out how to get around that red tape.

If you know she won’t approve of a paternity test, do it in secret. For example, if you’re making 30k more than her a year and she wants a “joint checking account” she must be on crack to imagine you won’t.

Another reason why I won’t get married, because I will straight up tell a woman, “If I ever got married, and a woman cheated on me, I’d kill her and let the man go free.” No smirk, no sarcasm, cold, dry, unforgiving bluntness.

Followed quickly by, “If she ever had a child that wasn’t mine, I’d also kill her.”

This quickly filters out the idiots that believe they can get away with massive betrayals at any point in life. If she thinks she can kill me, I will probably die and she will go to jail. Hence why I’m not getting married.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

@ Treznik87: i cant find it on youtube… too many episodes and i dont remember the title… do you? if so post the episode pls. I swear her husband knows exactly whats going on and is only trying to make the best of it.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

I’ll just leave this here:

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

30% is a figure we’ve seen based on DNA testing here in Oz, but you could say only suspicious guys get the test. I’ve never tested my kids as both the oldest and youngest are spitting images of me as a baby.

BUT I’ve seen the 30% figure elsewhere too (from some US figures) so it’s the number I currently go with, horrifying as it is.

[DethklokParticipant 153]

If a woman does it, the liberal society thinks the man should still be around. “Well why can’t he love this child?” “It doesn’t have to be biological” “What does this really change? “He is the true father!”

Could you imagine if a man did the equivalent? My god what a s~~~bag he’d be.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

I’m jumping in here. First off a woman doesn’t care who is raising the (her) kids. All of her kids have 1/2 her DNA. So she wants housing, clothing, food, education, security, etc. for all of her kids. This is not the same for the putative father. The kids may or may not have any DNA from the father. So yeah, women all use the argument that it doesn’t matter who the biological father is, “you have been the only father the child has ever known.” But It actually matters a great deal who the father is. Men only marry on the basis that he is providing for a family in which the kids are his. That’s fundamental. The putative father wants to pass his DNA on to the next generation, not that of some other asshole. Many times the guy is duped by the wife into doing it (paternity fraud). The courts also use this argument; “in the best interest of the child” when saddling a man with support payments.

I am a biologist, and I have followed hundreds of these stories where the wife gets pregnant by another guy, In almost all the cases it is not the fact that there are other children in the family that causes the husband to stay and accept the situation, By far the dominant reason the cuckolded man stays is because he is a Beta Provider (S.I.M.P) with absolutely no b~~~~. A pussy whipped piece of s~~~ who has been conditioned by the wife to stick around no matter what. “Oh dear sweetie. That was a terrible mistake. Probably a one off accident. Never mind. I’ll accept it.” Lets all go to counselling.

As for numbers Shiny, you are absolutely correct. Over 29% of men who suspect a child is not their’s are proved to be correct by a DNA test. This data has now been confirmed over and over again by all of the laboratories that provide legal and non-legal paternity testing. That however, is a subset off all children. When I was going through university, I did a lot of work on blood types. It was a known fact that between 10 and 12% of children in all population studies were not the offspring of the supposed father. That’s about 3 kids in every classroom. That number was known long ago, but is often refuted by some in order to reduce the fear among fathers. But as DNA testing advancesm, and female infidelity increases due to social media, there will be pandemonium and a huge jump in divorce rates. Courts / governments are worried about this because you can see just what is going to happen to welfare roles. Hence the horror stories of guys having been forced to pay child support for children that are not theirs despite irrefutable DNA evidence to the contrary. Many guys who cant afford the court ordered child support have their wages garnished, drivers licences revoked, credit scores ruined, and even jail time. I suffered the threat of jail time, twice when I was going through my divorce.

But what is more annoying than the legislation in places like England, Germany, France and Canada, where it is illegal to posses human tissue for purposes of DNA testing, or that the permission of the mother is required before a test can be performed, is the fact that if a man submits his tissue (sperm, blood) along with that of his wife for DNA testing for medical reasons related to their child, and it is subsequently discovered that the man is not the child’s father, the medical staff are forbidden to reveal that information to the father; only to the mother. He is to be simply told that the DNA information shed no light on the situation.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

This is why all men should be getting a DNA test before even signing a birth certificate.

Robert Hallam wrote:

Many guys who cant afford the court ordered child support have their wages garnished, drivers licences revoked, credit scores ruined, and even jail time. I suffered the threat of jail time, twice when I was going through my divorce.

Typical government logic. A man isn’t paying for a child? Lets take all the money he makes, lets take his ability to drive and make money, lets ruin his credit which can affect getting a car to go to work and make money lol.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

I once read somewhere that thousands of years ago when we were cavemen and lived in tribes that if a woman within the tribe got pregnant she would immediately start sleeping with as many of the other male members of the tribe as possible. This would ensure the best odds of safety and survival for her baby since no one knew who the father was and the males that did sleep with her would have a stake in raising and supporting the baby.
Seems that this game has been going on for a long time indeed……..

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Ohno wrote:

…the medical staff are forbidden to reveal that information to the father; only to the mother. He is to be simply told that the DNA information shed no light on the situation.

WTF?!?! So the father would not be able to use it as evidence in court unless he could force the female to bring it up?

[OldBillParticipant]

tripvan wrote:

WTF?!?! So the father would not be able to use it as evidence in court unless he could force the female to bring it up?

It gets worse. In some jurisdictions, such as France, paternity testing is a felony.

Tell me again about the patriarchy, ladies…

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Mr. Spock wrote:

[quote=137515]I once read somewhere that thousands of years ago when we were cavemen and lived in tribes that if a woman within the tribe got pregnant she would immediately start sleeping with as many of the other male members of the tribe as possible. This would ensure the best odds of safety and survival for her baby since no one knew who the father was and the males that did sleep with her would have a stake in raising and supporting the baby.
Seems that this game has been going on for a long time indeed……..

And since DNA testing wasn’t around back then all a woman really needed was for the baby to look like any of the men she liked and she was set. This is why it is normal for us men to see women who sleep around in a more negative light. If you were a man back then and f~~~ed a woman and wanted to have a child with her, but she didn’t all she would have to do once finding out she was pregnant is f~~~ another guy and then say it was his.

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