Maintaining Self-Respect

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I’m just putting this one out there because I need to get it off my chest. So, about three weeks ago I ask my ex for ‘permission’ to have supplementary visitation (such s~~~ to begin with, getting permission from ex-c~~~ to see your own kids, anyhow), which she said she would think about and get back to me. Never did (no surprise there). But today, she asked me to switch on my visitation for another day! So I write back saying “when you answer my request, then I’ll consider yours”. Well, she gets back to me says it’s a separate matter and insists that I answer her to give her permission for a switch on MY visitation. The gall of that bitch!! I basically stood my ground MGTOW-style (which I may not have a year and a half ago) and basically said “you give me what I want first then we’ll see” … I’m waiting to hear back from the bitch. Probably will just give me the Rationalisation Hamster wheel show. Just love this place, to come here and rant and be read, and get others to relate and get feedback. Maintain dignity at all costs! Trouble is her request involves one of my kids getting what he wants. But I explained to my kids, that for now, unless it’s too serious a loss, they will have to make little sacrifices in order for me to save face with the ex. It’s a tough one. I was tempted to cave in because of this twist. Damned bitch knows what she is doing! C~~~!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Taking advantage of my kid’s friend’s b-day party to force a day switch on MY TIME! Knowing that I would not want to disappoint my son. Rotten stinking c~~~! All the while ignoring an earlier request I made to her to have a little supplementary visitation. Putrid tuna maggot infested hatchet wound!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

I like it. Stand your ground. What a bitch to basically say “I’m going to ignore your request, but you need to answer mine NOW!”

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[Anonymous 54]

I think its important to teach your Son how to stand up to a woman.

Said the Man with no kids….

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Anonymous wrote:

I think its important to teach your Son how to stand up to a woman.

Said the Man with no kids….

And especially how to stand up to his own mom. … I told him… He can think what he wants of her, that’s not mine… However, respect man, self respect, ask yourself son… Is she respecting me… like really. This is a tall order for a teen. I’m aware of this.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[VerusParticipant 965]

This is what they do. The constantly changing demands of their social lives and new relationships means the visitation schedule that they agree to isn’t going to be good enough for them. They are going to demand that you be flexible with scheduling, one minute trying to decrease your visitation, the next trying to unexpectedly dump the kids on you. Been there. Don’t capitulate and don’t let her have concessions without her being every bit as flexible with you. You have a visitation schedule – don’t let her desires of the moment override it.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Verus wrote:

This is what they do. The constantly changing demands of their social lives and new relationships means the visitation schedule that they agree to isn’t going to be good enough for them. They are going to demand that you be flexible with scheduling, one minute trying to decrease your visitation, the next trying to unexpectedly dump the kids on you. Been there. Don’t capitulate and don’t let her have concessions without her being every bit as flexible with you. You have a visitation schedule – don’t let her desires of the moment override it.

Asking them to be flexible is like asking them to move the Earth somehow. Go figure. They get all p~~~y if you interrupt their s~~~, but they have no problem interrupting YOUR s~~~.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I know this may sound mean but act like you don’t give a crap about the kids and she will throw them at you whenever you want them. Women like to control what they know you care about.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous 38]

Maintaining self-respect and being in a LTR are mutually exclusive. You always have to dump their asses when they start disrespecting you.

[bstoffParticipant 4873]

She may be doing this for the sole purpose of p~~~ing you off and causing a reaction from you.
Ignore her from now on.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Point Of No Return wrote:

she said she would think about and get back to me.

I don’t even have kid and this P~~~ES me off! Again, it’s ALL ABOUT CUPCAKE. They don’t care about the kids, they’re just used as a BARGAINING TOOL for when she wants something.

Verus wrote:

This is what they do. The constantly changing demands of their social lives and new relationships means the visitation schedule that they agree to isn’t going to be good enough for them. They are going to demand that you be flexible with scheduling, one minute trying to decrease your visitation, the next trying to unexpectedly dump the kids on you.

Exactly – their SOCIAL LIVES & CHADS will always come first regardless of their REAL responsibilities.

Women don’t like taking responsibility.

Disgusting.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[GregB0Participant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

to save face with the ex

Congrats on taking charge of your life again. Your access to your children are now an important part of the game between your EX and you, but remember that there will always be a game between you two. The pieces, and the importance they might have, will change over time but she will always to to bait / control / obtain resources from you.

Know that the psy ops battle will only get worse as she begins trying to turn the kids against you further. Continue to do your best and good luck.

Great realization on your part, if you don’t hold yourself in respect, how can anyone else do so?

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

GregB0 wrote:

Point Of No Return wrote:

to save face with the ex

Congrats on taking charge of your life again. Your access to your children are now an important part of the game between your EX and you, but remember that there will always be a game between you two. The pieces, and the importance they might have, will change over time but she will always to to bait / control / obtain resources from you.

Know that the psy ops battle will only get worse as she begins trying to turn the kids against you further. Continue to do your best and good luck.

Great realization on your part, if you don’t hold yourself in respect, how can anyone else do so?

Thanks for the reply GregBo. Indeed, it’s a tough realisation when you realise it’s a s~~~-test no matter how you cut it. The good news though is that now that I’m living by myself and apply the No Contact method as best I can, those times are fewer and more far between. I was explaning how I perceived his mom, to my son. Told him how I got caught up in a vortex of manipulation back when… At one point he asked me. How did you manage for so long? I gave a straight answer. “I was an idiot.” Those days are gone now I told him. I’m rebuilding my life and I told him it takes a while, a good while. Anyhow, I feel I could use another stopover at a zoom chat. Any link current?

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

You can’t win so don’t play.
Here’s why:
1 “Why don’t we see how we can weaken him?”
2 “O.k., what’s the plan?”
1 “We have the birthday party that his son wants to go to during his visitation”
2 “Good thinking girl! That way if he says yes, then he’s shown that we can take a foot when given an inch. And if he says no, then it’ll upset his son (my son too, but I’m never blamed for anything anyhow) and he’ll be made to feel bad, then we can work on that weakness.”
1 *high fives happen* 2

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

C~~~s

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Parker (Freedom Fighter)Participant 99]

Thanks for keeping us in the know, Point of No Return!

I agree with you completely. The only winning move is not to play.

A man maintaining his dignity and self respect is worth more than gold. Man’s dignity and self respect is right up there with the truth.

Keep up the good fight brother!

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