Madonna-Whore Complex

[CaliParticipant 753]

I’ve been thinking a lot about this term and the phenomenon to which it refers. It seems that this mindset (of women being either cum dumpsters or pure, virtuous angels) is a big subset of the bluepill mindset. Men often have trouble accepting that the vast majority of the girls who seem so virtuous and pure in public quite likely have incredibly strong sexual desires, often for Chad (or Tyrone, or Harley McBadboy). More than that, men often fail to realize that those women who really ARE “virtuous Madonnas”, the ones who really don’t have a wild side and who really are “pure and innocent”, are often absolutely painful to live with or have any meaningful relationship with. These are the sorts of women who will cut off the sex completely, or only give their husbands duty sex. They are the sorts who will freak out if you’ve had 3 beers in one night, or get upset that you made a dirty joke. They are really only suited to be in an LTR with a chivalrous “beta”, because if they actually had to submit to a man who could be considered an “alpha”, both of them would be miserable.

I came to this conclusion as I was considering the idea of a unicorn that so many men have, and I came to the realization that the sort of woman whom most men think are unicorns would probably be pretty unpleasant to live with. Food for thought.

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[JVBParticipant]

Correct.

Peace is > piece.

[StealthParticipant 5330]

Having lived with such a creature, I can attest your theory is right.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

At least the literal whore is a plain business transaction.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[CaliParticipant 753]

Lots of men fail to understand that you can’t negotiate feelings. They don’t get that if she ain’t showing you her wild side, either someone else got to/is getting to see it, or she’s just not sexually interested in you.

Keymaster is right. Women in general love sex. Most guys don’t get to see how effortless it is for chads to have it, but then women will turn around and talk about how if they really like a guy, they’ll make him wait. Aaron Clarey mocked this very well: “I love him so much that I won’t sleep with him!”

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[CaliParticipant 753]

JB Books wrote:

At least the literal whore is a plain business transaction.

Still not even close to the experience that Chad has.

I’m definitely looking forward to my late 20’s and early 30’s. It’s going to be nice to finally be closer to the top of the food chain.

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[HermitParticipant]

Cali wrote:

I came to the realization that the sort of woman whom most men think are unicorns would probably be pretty unpleasant to live with. Food for thought.

If you have a whore, she’ll give you great sex and cheat on you. If you have a virtuous good girl, she’ll never give you sex and she’ll cheat on you.

They are all unpleasant to live with.

F~~~ ’em all and forget about ’em and live with none of them.

You never “have” a woman to yourself, not for long. Just use ’em and lose ’em.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

My estimate of the 3 groups of women:
10% the ones that truly are “pure” but are frigid, easily angered by small things, micromanaging, jealous, psychologically anal-retentive, asexual…
30% the ones that pretend to be pure but put out for Chad and Tyrone.
60% the ones that are closer to the cum-dumpster side of the spectrum

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[CaliParticipant 753]

Ranger One wrote:

My estimate of the 3 groups of women:10% the ones that truly are “pure” but are frigid, easily angered by small things, micromanaging, jealous, psychologically anal-retentive, asexual…30% the ones that pretend to be pure but put out for Chad and Tyrone.60% the ones that are closer to the cum-dumpster side of the spectrum

A sad state of affairs

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[narwhalParticipant]

Cali wrote:

I’ve been thinking a lot about this term and the phenomenon to which it refers. It seems that this mindset (of women being either cum dumpsters or pure, virtuous angels) is a big subset of the bluepill mindset. Men often have trouble accepting that the vast majority of the girls who seem so virtuous and pure in public quite likely have incredibly strong sexual desires…

From my experience men tend seem to be a product of their experiences and whatever code/principle they chose to live by. In that regard, they can be pretty dependable and reliable. That’s not to say that they can be trusted, but that if he’s lies and cheats, then he’s probably done it before and will do it again if given the opportunity.

Women on the other hand, seem to be a product of their experiences, their hormones, and the amount of attention is at stake. A woman who is virtuous likely has little experience with sex, may have strong hormones, but is getting plenty of attention without sex. The attention could be because she has a man doting over her, or several who want to be with her. But when the attention wans and the hormones come out, then so does the whore. In contrast, when a whore isn’t getting attention anymore, then she’ll stop putting out in order to trap a man long term.

It all fits with the chameleon mentality they seem to have. Men are fooled because they see a woman behave a certain way, and assume the reason is the same as their own, principles. It’s nothing of the sort, it’s because she’s doing what fits her emotions at the time, and what’s needed to get the attention she wants.

Ok. Then do it.

[CaliParticipant 753]

Exactly. That’s why so much of the manosphere focuses so heavily on manipulating women: they are easily manipulated.

Not only that, but many of them don’t even NEED to be manipulated to make dumb decision. Recently, I told a girl that she should look elsewhere for a boyfriend because I’m too busy and I’m not ready. A normal, sane person would say “thanks for the straightforward warning”, but she wanted to try to start seeing me and see what would happen. Of course, she was disappointed.

Meanwhile, there are men sending her flowers and chocolates and texting her constantly trying to get in her good graces. I couldn’t help but feel bad for them.

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[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Cali wrote:

I’m definitely looking forward to my late 20’s and early 30’s. It’s going to be nice to finally be closer to the top of the food chain.

It even get’s better after that. I’m in my early 50’s and just got rid of a 29 y/o.

To quote KM: “Being a pretty well put together man in his early 50’s with no ex wives, no children, and no debt is just like being an 18 y/o chick with nice t~~~.”

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[CaliParticipant 753]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

It even get’s better after that. I’m in my early 50’s and just got rid of a 29 y/o.
To quote KM: “Being a pretty well put together man in his early 50’s with no ex wives, no children, and no debt is just like being an 18 y/o chick with nice t~~~.”

I think that my favorite quote from Keymaster is the following (regarding dating younger women):

“There were girlfriends at 17-24…. but I often found myself thinking “when’s it gonna be MY turn?”….. and then……. there was a very obvious shift in dynamics the minute I hit 30. At 32, I walked into a theatre with a 19 year old hottie on my arm and that’s when it really hit me. She wouldn’t be here 12 years ago.

Other people notice and commented on it too. LOUDLY. That evening, a female coworker my own age asked me “OMG what could you possibly have in common with her?”

“Well… we both really like it when she gets naked”.

Fire and brimstone shot from her eyes. I loved it. Because it was now “my turn”.
Something in the universe shifted. I didn’t understand it then, but I get it now.”

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[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Bottom line is that women are never taught things like maturity, ethics, honesty, being responsible, and even being a “lady”. They are all entitled self important garbage people who want everything given to then on the sole virtue of pussy and batting their eyelashes at you..

#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT
#HIDEYOURWEALTH
#VAGINAISWORTHLESS

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Ive never witnessed any virtuous women so I cant speak to that. My experience is that ALL women, young and old, beautiful and ugly alike have been flat out TREACHOROUS to me personally or I have witnessed it done firsthand. I dont trust a damn one of them. And the more and more you believe or witness one that “seems” virtuous… its an act.

There are no NAWALTS. The “one for you” is a trick. She’s a SIREN. You will be injured looking for her just as I was. And Im DONE looking. Now lately, more than ever, I have been hearing some WICKED confessions of women aged 20-27 at an AA meeting I go to. It astonishing what women will confess to in a format setting like that.

I dont consider breaking their anonymity because I have not mentioned what group or who said what. But its not a universal secret that beautiful angelic 25 year old women who you perceive as fair-to-decent Christian girls, are actually coked-up, neurotic basket cases who have had intercourse with more men than you can guess, we’re talking more than 30 men EASY! Some of these women have had sex with over 100 men by the time they’re 30. And it’s not just the most attractive ones or the fatties… its all of them. There are 25 year old girls who have f~~~ed over 50 guys. This is not hyperbole and it’s not RARE by any means.

Women are trouble and they have STDs too. I stay away totally. NO SEX, NO RELATIONS~~~S, nothing…

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