Made a new friend

[JohnParticipant 114]

Hello Gentlemen,

my name is John. As a longtime lurker i decided to finally become a member and want to thank you for all your input and your wisdom. I feel honored to be a part of this community and will help other men with my humble contributions the best i can.

After reading this site and soaking up the knowledge for so long it was about time to do something.

Every day on my way home i see this homeless man in a public park nearby. I am used to see homeless people but this poor guy is one of the saddest “things” i have ever seen. Just imagine the picture of a man who is beaten up by life beyond imagination and on the edge of death. He’s got lots of open wounds on his lower arms and his belly is full of water.

This picture of him just sitting there w/o any shelter is haunting me. Inspired by Stealthy’s (Went Camping) thread about helping homeless men i decided to act.

So i went to the park yesterday morning and found him sleeping on a bench. It was a shock to see him from this close. Under his filthy white shirt i could see 2 giant band-aids. After i woke him up i introduced myself and explained why i was there. His name is Peter. I asked to sit next to him on the bench and offered him my spare cell phone and a few bucks. It took some time for him to understand that i didn’t want any money from him and that this is a gift. He thanked me and began to talk while i was listening. It was a nice surprise that he turned out to be less drunk than i expected. So he talked about what happened to him and how he lost his love ones. This guy is in his 50s and sleeps on the ground in a public park b/c there is no room left in the official shelter. He had two surgeries therefore the giant band-aids on his belly. I am still speechless.

Peter was also talking about the immigrants and explained to me that he’s not biased against them but from his point of view they let in too many. Hard to argue with that. Also he could’t understand that there is so much help for them but next to nothing for local people in need. When it was time to say goodbye i gave him a big smile and encouraged him that things will get better. He smiled back to me and it was a smile w/o lines on his face, an expression of a man who appears to get his faith back in humanity. At least that’s how i interpret this.

After i closed the door when i came home i had a good cry. Oh and by the way, my local church offers special programs to help refugees only. Of course there is no program to help all homeless people and people in need.

All the best,
John

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Welcome! Hope you enjoy it here!

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 42]

BRAVO! Nothing else to say, perhaps one thing,
YOU ARE YOUR BROTHER’S KEEPER!
I’M HONORED TO MEET YOU!

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

@ John,

Anonymous wrote:

BRAVO! Nothing else to say, perhaps one thing,
YOU ARE YOUR BROTHER’S KEEPER!
I’M HONORED TO MEET YOU!

You are a man among men. Welcome, this is what “manning up” really looks like.

[Anonymous 54]

Men have big hearts. Think any cold hearted bitch would have done this? John is an honorable name. You wear it well.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Welcome and good on you,

Most cold hearted bitches have never had a taste of street life thanks to the AM EX between their legs!

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

Men do have hearts of gold when all said and done. I think it’s because we instinctively want to see our species survive and succeed.

Women on the other hand are only ever in anything for themselves. If they can get some positive attention from helping, then they will help. Other than that they don’t give a flying f~~~.

I remember when I did have Fakebook I would see women post statuses of some good deed they did. Only to get validation.

Yes I will say it.

I hate women…

[Anonymous 24]

Good s~~~ John. I have always stopped and talked and helped out homeless men, I know my government is a user of men on many levels. And all I need to know about who gets forgotten by society is all around me in the homeless community. I say not a penny spent overseas militarily or to foreign countries in aid, especially ones that are already wealthy, before we take care of those at home. And the ultimate irony is that many of these men are Veterans of, in my opinion, bulls~~~ wars.

[Anonymous 6]

Great to hear things like this, you are a true gentleman John.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Welcome to the site John. There is always room here.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[JohnParticipant 114]

Dear All,

thank you very much for the great welcome! I really do appreciate your comments and I am very grateful to meet you.

Anonymous wrote:

YOU ARE YOUR BROTHER’S KEEPER!

This was the first thought that popped into my mind when i saw this poor fella. And therefore i hesitated for a moment due to this responsibility.

But you know what? I met Peter today on my way home, he was sitting in front of the grocery store next to my place and was chatting with some locals. well, he was drinking beer with some dopeheads, truth be told. The important part is that he was quite sober and greeted me with a big, friendly smile. He still looked fubar but this was not the guy i met 2 days earlier. Peter seemed to be way more relaxed not exactly cheerful but he appears to be content to hang out with people who treated him like a human being.

He told me that he scheduled several appointments for tomorrow and with a little luck he will get an apartment. Absolutely awesome! I hope this will come true.

Anonymous wrote:

I’M HONORED TO MEET YOU!

Thank you, Sir. I truly feel the same way about meeting you and all you other fine Gentlemen here.

W/o MGTOW i probably would have never done this. You guys gave me something that i will treasure until the day i die: you teached me values.

Now rally your network of men and see how you can help him.
Stealthy

Unfortunately i am not the man i want to be yet. Right now I am broke and on welfare. I graduated almost 2 years ago and still struggle with landing my first real job. There is no network i could offer to make things a little easier for him.

What i did is browsing the internet for cheap apartments and searching for free meals for homeless people in my area.

[Anonymous 24]

John wrote:

Unfortunately i am not the man i want to be yet. Right now I am broke and on welfare. I graduated almost 2 years ago and still struggle with landing my first real job. There is no network i could offer to make things a little easier for him.

Yea, keep at it man, you will find something.

I am not wealthy by a longshot as well and do what I can here and there to help out guys on the street. Sometimes just some pocket change and a chat with them is all they need to keep going another day. Just to be treated like a person is something they need badly.

[JohnParticipant 114]

@ Joe Bauers: Thank you very much for your support. Yeah, you’re right about what keep them going. Of course a little coin and some chat goes a long way.

I don’t want to disappoint everyone by not posting a happy end. It is what it is. I still hope this poor fella will make it into a welfare program and his appointments went well.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

John wrote:

W/o MGTOW i probably would have never done this. You guys gave me something that i will treasure until the day i die: you teached me values.

Couldn’t agree more. You can never forget the values this place teaches you.

You did a very good thing…and must I say… a ‘daring’ thing! Yes. A few days ago, I myself was busy volunteering for a flood relief campaign in my area…. and you know what? When you decide you’re going to ‘help’ someone, you feel kind of ‘afraid’ because it feels like its not the norm.

Everyone in my life, incuding my own mother, taught me how to ‘shoo away’ beggars… be rude to them…. to not respond to them and all that. So when I had to ‘give’, I was anxious because I felt I was doing somehing ‘wrong’. But after I did, I felt so relieved!!

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

John wrote:

Hello Gentlemen,
my name is John. As a longtime lurker i decided to finally become a member and want to thank you for all your input and your wisdom. I feel honored to be a part of this community and will help other men with my humble contributions the best i can.
After reading this site and soaking up the knowledge for so long it was about time to do something.
Every day on my way home i see this homeless man in a public park nearby. I am used to see homeless people but this poor guy is one of the saddest “things” i have ever seen. Just imagine the picture of a man who is beaten up by life beyond imagination and on the edge of death. He’s got lots of open wounds on his lower arms and his belly is full of water.
This picture of him just sitting there w/o any shelter is haunting me. Inspired by Stealthy’s (Went Camping) thread about helping homeless men i decided to act.
So i went to the park yesterday morning and found him sleeping on a bench. It was a shock to see him from this close. Under his filthy white shirt i could see 2 giant band-aids. After i woke him up i introduced myself and explained why i was there. His name is Peter. I asked to sit next to him on the bench and offered him my spare cell phone and a few bucks. It took some time for him to understand that i didn’t want any money from him and that this is a gift. He thanked me and began to talk while i was listening. It was a nice surprise that he turned out to be less drunk than i expected. So he talked about what happened to him and how he lost his love ones. This guy is in his 50s and sleeps on the ground in a public park b/c there is no room left in the official shelter. He had two surgeries therefore the giant band-aids on his belly. I am still speechless.
Peter was also talking about the immigrants and explained to me that he’s not biased against them but from his point of view they let in too many. Hard to argue with that. Also he could’t understand that there is so much help for them but next to nothing for local people in need. When it was time to say goodbye i gave him a big smile and encouraged him that things will get better. He smiled back to me and it was a smile w/o lines on his face, an expression of a man who appears to get his faith back in humanity. At least that’s how i interpret this.
After i closed the door when i came home i had a good cry. Oh and by the way, my local church offers special programs to help refugees only. Of course there is no program to help all homeless people and people in need.
All the best,
John

Hi John and welcome.
A good read I must say and the best thing is that you actually get involved.
I also do rounds, not religiously but out of principle and humanity for men a few hours fortnightly
without fail, almost three years now.
It does feel good when you help and see them climb out of the gutter.

Zero Tolerance

[Anonymous 42]

John wrote:

There is no network i could offer to make things a little easier for him.

John, I’m sure you made life much easier for him, you lifted something money can’t buy, you lifted something much more important, you lifted his spirit!

[JohnParticipant 114]

Thanks a lot for your thoughts. There is no update on Peters situation yet, i haven’t seen him for days.

Varun wrote:

Couldn’t agree more. You can never forget the values this place teaches you.

It might sound cheesy in the wrong ears but this place made me a better person. There is c~~~s fantasy and men’s values.

Varun wrote:

Everyone in my life, incuding my own mother, taught me how to ‘shoo away’ beggars

Exactly! It might be way too naive but i assumed at least most men knew it better.

Dr. Sable wrote:

I also do rounds, not religiously but out of principle and humanity for men a few hours fortnightly
without fail, almost three years now.
It does feel good when you help and see them climb out of the gutter.

Hi Dr. Sable, nice to meet you and thank you for the nice welcome!

Have to admit i am very impressed by your commitment and ambition. After my last post almost immediately a question came into my mind: Does it make any sense at all? Am i really doing him a favour? It is meant more in the sense of that the effect will fade very quickly and reality starts to kick in again. Then there is the same needs and the same desperation for not having a valid prospect.

Realistically Peter is an alcoholic – not judging, just saying. And his health is in pretty bad shape hence even light work is not an option. Probably the only option to get him off the streets is to put him on welfare. Of course he is eligible for such a program but there is a lot of latency.

How do you help them?

Anonymous wrote:

John, I’m sure you made life much easier for him, you lifted something money can’t buy, you lifted something much more important, you lifted his spirit!

Thank you for saying this, i like the idea. Don’t want to sound like a whiny c~~~ but i think it is more complicated than that. The layer of civilized behaviour is thin when you are challenged to survive. This will fade to only just a memory very quickly. To permanently lift Peter’s spirit and keep him going he would need way more support.

What can a guy do to help a brother out and really make a difference? We all have our daily lives and obligations. Even if one would manage to succeed and get a brother off the streets. Then there will be the next poor fella who needs help in no time.

How to tell what the meaning of help is and which level of commitment is appropriate?

Perhaps all my thoughts on this really doesn’t matter and i take it for what it is: I saw a brother in need and just tried to help him.

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